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#1 Edited by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@neongamewave said:

@cadencev2: I saw every scan and read the comics, and while Ghost Rider is powerful he doesn`t quite match Dante in overall power/stats. I could post feats for Dante just as much but I want to keep this debate simple until an elaboration is needed. Ghost Rider has no answer for Bangle of Time, Quicksilver or Chrono Heart which Dante can access in an instant. Penance Stare requires the victim to be a sinner which I don`t even know if Dante qualifies or should be categorized in that bracket also the point that I was making was his soul has defensive mechanisms against inflictions that attack the soul directly and also I don`t see Ghost being able to even tag Dante who is far faster by a large margin.

Dante has much more going for him and I didn`t underestimate Zarathos at all you on the other hand underestimated Dante, you clearly don`t know Dante`s character that side of Dante is long gone he became cold and no nonsense within DMC 2 also Dante only played around with Nero more so he didn`t play around with Mundus or Vergil much he sensed the threat within them.

I do not underestimate Dante, I put him where his feats and feats of his foes he battle exactly where they are. Below Zarathos.

You stated his enemies are near featless therefore making him near featless. Mundus has demonstrated his awesome might, so has Abigail and the Despair Embodied. Mephisto and Zarathos should be considered to be overrated due to the fact that many say that they cannot die or that they can bust galaxies which is far from true. You haven`t proven why or proven so, I have given valid points and constructed my arguments within those valid points. Also Mephisto NEVER stalemated Galactus that is a huge misconception. Galactus couldn`t get rid of him and I don`t think the Power Cosmic can banish a Hell Lord it takes supernatural elements to do so. Also Galactus wasn`t nourished by much and Mephisto was frightened at the idea of Galactus consuming his realm.

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#2 Edited by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: I saw every scan and read the comics, and while Ghost Rider is powerful he doesn`t quite match Dante in overall power/stats. I could post feats for Dante just as much but I want to keep this debate simple until an elaboration is needed. Ghost Rider has no answer for Bangle of Time, Quicksilver or Chrono Heart which Dante can access in an instant. Penance Stare requires the victim to be a sinner which I don`t even know if Dante qualifies or should be categorized in that bracket also the point that I was making was his soul has defensive mechanisms against inflictions that attack the soul directly and also I don`t see Ghost being able to even tag Dante who is far faster by a large margin.

Dante has much more going for him and I didn`t underestimate Zarathos at all you on the other hand underestimated Dante, you clearly don`t know Dante`s character that side of Dante is long gone he became cold and no nonsense within DMC 2 also Dante only played around with Nero more so he didn`t play around with Mundus or Vergil much he sensed the threat within them.

Dante has Holy Water which is a holy weapon and he can use it, magic has been shown to being able to affect a Ghost Rider even Mephisto`s power harmed Zarathos and you made this case yourself as well as exploited it here.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/yusuke-urameshi-vs-ghost-rider-1449985/

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#3 Posted by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman has Lex broken mentally, psychologically, emotionally, physically and undoubtedly.

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#4 Edited by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cgoodness said:

@neongamewave: oh alright, as long as it was crafted in a Christian heaven its good against a GR, though i wish someone could tell me if a weapon like Mjolnir would work on a GR (it turns the undead into dust, but I still doubt it would work on a GR)

That is a good question. I think Mjonir could harm Ghost Rider because it contains magic and magic is effective against a Ghost Rider also Thor`s hammer`s generated God Thunder has shown to being able to force back Galactus which shows the damage output it can amass. However, I don`t think Mjonir is enough to put Ghost Rider down or fast enough to put him down to warrant Thor a victory.

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#5 Edited by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cgoodness said:

@neongamewave: were they forged in a Christian heaven?

Pretty much, the Casull and Jackal are blessed weapons by God and Dante`s Holy Water is divine, its effective against Mundus who is the epitome of the devil in DMC also Heaven exists in the DMC universe.

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#6 Posted by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

The Manga Gods triumph.

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#7 Posted by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome!

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#8 Edited by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

@jojjimbo said:

I don't believe either Dante or Alucard could hurt GR, so i have top give it to him.

That`s not true. Holy weapons and Magical ones can harm a Ghost Rider also Dante has both while Alucard only has one in his concealed state. He has the Jackal and Casull which are holy pistols, in Level 0 he could bring out Dandyman who has magical cards that can cut through regeneration.

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#9 Edited by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

Many are underestimating Dante.

The order goes like this:

1. Dante

2. Ghost Rider

3. Alucard

These points need to be acknowledged.

1. Penance Stare would work on Alucard but not on Dante, Dante has a strong resistance for soul draining, soul assaults and soul suckage/draining also he`s not really a sinner or a person to cause pain also Ghost Rider has never used it or shown to have successfully use it on demons before. Alucard on the other hand loves pain and would allow Ghost Rider the first shot of utilizing the deadly weapon due to his nature of wanting a good challenge or testing his opponent`s strength. Also, Alucard has caused more pain than Dante has and he is far more sinister at heart.

2. Dante is way faster than both Alucard and Ghost Rider, he is massively hypersonic when not trying but has light speed reaction and combat ability when not holding back also Dante can teleport and fly on top of all that.

3. Dante`s weapons are magical in nature and would be powerful enough to kill Ghost Rider as well as Zarathos. Alucard`s pistols can hurt the Ghost Rider because their holy in nature as they also cut down superhumanly empowered regeneration but Dante has the superior edge as he also possesses Holy items such as Holy Water and his weapons directly attack the soul as well.

4. Dante is far more versatile than the both of them combined and can summon up Doppelgangers, Pandora`s Omen, Bangle of Time, Yamato, and etc. He has far too many weapons at his disposal unlike Ghost Rider and Alucard. Hellfire won`t do much against him as his soul has great resistance against assaults that deal with the harming of his soul also Dante has high resistance against Hellfire as well. As shown with Berial Conqueror of the Fire Hell, Ifrit and the deepest parts of the Underworld/Hell which Dante rode through at the end of DMC 2 coming out of it unscathed.

5. Dante has fought and defeated Mephisto/Zarathos level beings such as Mundus, Abigail, Seven Sins (more so an encounter but he did get the win in a sense) and The Despair Embodied. Dante at full power can defeat Zarathos but it wouldn`t matter since Dante would kill or K.O, Banish/Seal Ghost Rider before that could even happen or manifest 100%.

6. Alucard will be the first to go down especially when he goes Level 0, he would have no choice regardless of Integra`s wishes due to the fact of the situation at hand, he would be more vulnerable and both Ghost Rider as well as Dante would take out his souls easily. Alucard would pose as the villainous threat for the both of them to take him down first then the battle would end with the Spirit of Vengeance vs the Son of Sparda.

With Dante rising out of the ashes on top with a smile on his face.

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#10 Edited by NeonGameWave (10885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cr4psnip3r said:

@neongamewave MoS looks like his beating was a tad bit worse, if I am honest. Tad being a lot.

Superman did endure through a lot of beating but Hancock on the other hand had been through a lot as well and with a equal of his in stats. However, he was invulnerable completely haven`t shown any evidence of damage sustained unlike Superman also Hancock seems to be the more aggressive fighter and is willing to push himself more which also can be considered an edge over Superman.

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