@ Duke_Nasty Wow, bad weekend for my computer to be down. And I assume OP means Opening Post? I think you correctly grasped my feelings about this series. I really enjoy this title and hope it continues to sell well enough to continue. Also I feel your last comment about David being a great original character and Miles being a money grab to be spot on! As far as TheThe goes it seems like you are just looking to start some race trouble on the interwebs...

@TheThe: They weren't referring to Batwing being a publicity stunt, they were talking about Miles Morales being a "diversity for the sake of diversity" character which is true. OP was asking if Marvel made the Ultimate universe Spider-Man Black as a counter to the new Black member of the Bat family. IMO Batwing is a great original character that is Black and Miles Morales is a money grab. Don't be naive in thinking that making the face of Marvel a Black/Hispanic kid(in an alternate universe) wasn't for forced diversity.

Anyway, maybe this is how the Batwing forum works, so i'm sorry if i ruin your debates. It's just not my cup of tea, and to each is own. Apologies.

The thing is not talking in a positive or negative way, the thing is why do they bring diversity in the subject for no reason ? If i dont like a series, it's because inconsistancies, bad writting, bad art etc. If i like a series, it's because stunning storytelling, magnificent art etc. There's no need to bring up "diversity" in this, particularly at the very first issue of the books. When people say that they love or hate a "classic" ongoing series carrying a white heterosexual character, they will never argue about the "whiteness" or "heterosexuality" of a character. So i dont see the point of talking about diversity here, even if someone ends to like the comic he was already bitching about(" diversity for the sake of diversity is a failure" etc). And yes, i've read the threads, and MLC talks A LOT about about diversity and racial issues. I just dont see what is the purpose? Cant people just enjoy the book without killing the fun with long debates about race and diversity ?

@TheThe: SMH If you read any of the posts in this thread you would know that they were all talking positively about Batwing.

I've read the OP. You know, before giving my opinion about this ongoing series, i've read 8 issues of it in a row. I know everybody dont do that, but the OP and MydLifeCrisis seem like readers who are judging a book with only one issue. It's not faire to me, and i dont even see where their conclusions come from, because Batwing is the opposite of a "diversity character lacking good writing". In some other threads, MydLifeCrisis was already talking about diversity,and racism, and this and that. So i assume maybe he is the one with a problem.

@TheThe: Lol you didn't even read the OP.

Jesus, there will always be people who will bitch all day for no reason. Batwing story is solid, it is not a "diversity for diversity" character. You're just annoying, i dont even think you've read this book till the end of the story with massacre.

Batwing was pretty epic, he's quickly becoming one of my favourite character while Miles (right now) seems more like a gimmick.