Burton made Batman kill people and enjoy it, as much as people want to live in the past and say the past was better times, this is an example ofe people living in a lie.
Burton Batman was the worst Batman of all.
I'm not living a lie because I thought Micheal Keaton was a better Batman than Christian Bale and I find the idea that Burton's Batman was the worst of all ridiculous. Val Kilmer and George Clooney were by far much larger fails by far. Completely wrong for the part.
A lot of people talk about how cool the sewer fight with Bane was...but I'm not feeling it.
This is literally all I remember of that fight scene. They were locked in a section of sewer together. They faced each other as thugs watched. Selina looked kind of sad at one point. Famous back breaking pose that looked way cooler in the comics. That's it. I do not remember any of the back and forth of blows between the two. Nothing. I could remember lots of action from the fight scenes in the Dark Knight, but there have been so many conversations I have had with people where they reference scenes from Rises where I have to squint my eyes real hard before I vaguely remember the scene. (shrugs shoulders)
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Well there's no doubt that it wasn't that intriguing but if I had to choose one 1v1 fight that Batman had throughout all the films that I thought was the best, that would be it. The fight with Ra's was very unimpressive for Batman and the Joker isn't really a fighter.
I didn't compare Nolan's Batman to horse racing, I compared your falling asleep when watching Batman to my falling asleep watching horse racing - implying that those reactions don't say anything about quality, just preference.
I understood that. That's mostly what my post was about. The reason the reactions between the two can't be compared is because I'm a fan of superhero films and I'm a fan of action films. The fact that an action film couldn't hold my attention DOES say something about the quality.
Likewise when you say Nolan writes villains well, I think you're wide off the mark of where the real appeal of those movies lies.
I wasn't talking about where the appeal of the movies lies though. I was simply pointing out what specifically I liked about them because alot of other things that people praise them for didn't do it for me.
The main issue (of a few) Nolan's Batman faces is that it's not a terribly good Batman as a character film, but I already explained why I think that in my previous posts.
It's an adaptation of a work to another medium, i'd think it's obvious it wouldn't be exactly the same as the comics, that it's impossible for it to be. That also says nothing about the actual content of the film. It doesn't judge the film itself on what it actually is. So criticizing it for that aspect of it comes across as completely unnecessary. That's how I see it anyways.
It's not impossible. Have you seen Sin City,Watchmen,or 300? They are pretty damn close to the comics.