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#1 Edited by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

Got it.

All I can say is "Are you kidding me DC?" Dick's relationship with Barbara, Kori, Roy, Tim, the JLA; you choose to cut these things out and instead merely give us him and Bruce beating each other up and wrecking the Batcave? SMH even when trying to do something new they keep repeating the same old mistakes. When a character "dies" the reactions and memories of those close to him are exactly what you should be showing, especially when you need to expand on his past anyways. Very, very disappointed to see all of these were cut.

#2 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

@nathaniel_christopher said:

I'm interested in seeing the eventual fallout of all of this though, as it's clear Dick doesn't think too highly of this, outright stating that things will never be the same between him and Bruce. Looks like we'll see some of the old distancing between the two, which i'm sure people will be happy with, as Bruce's events have pretty much ruined Dick's title since the reboot.

I don't see this a "falling out." I took it to mean that, after this, Bruce and Dick can't be captain/lieutenant ever again. After this they are equals. Though, to be fair, I say that more because I've heard King on a few (very annoying) podcasts, rather than what was on the page.

A "fallout" and a "falling out" are two completely different things. One is the aftermath of an event, one is the breaking down of a relationship. The first is what I was speaking of.

#3 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

OP has no idea what he's talking about. Batman went at Joker and beat him brutally, clearly intending to kill him for taking Jason away, but he didn't, just like he didn't kill Heretic. It'd be similar if Dick or Tim was killed.

#4 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

SMH well I guess DC's completely blown it now.

#5 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine Logan has always been an old favorite of mine. The japan saga also had to be mentioned.

Anyone been reading Origin 2? Is it any good?

#6 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

@alak said:

This issue made me wonder why Bruce can't just have a normal sit down heart-to-heart conversation about Dick's future just like any other dad? Instead, he forces Dick (who's still recovering from being tortured by the Syndicate) into a fight that wrecks most of the batcave and both of them end up sustaining injuries. I doubt it was an all out fight from either one of them, but even still, that's taking the whole father-son relationship to a different level lol...

Regular stuff for Bruce, who's always been emotionally awkward. Pre-Flashpoint I remember, when he finally adopted Dick, it was through an extremely roundabout way, where he wanted to show Dick he cared and loved him, yet he wasn't able to come right out and say it. It's always been Dick, the open one, who shines in the spotlight, who has had to bridge the gap and let Bruce know he understands and recognizes that Bruce cares. And Bruce does very clearly state that for all intents and purposes, to him, Dick failed when the Crime Syndicate captured him, tortured him, and "killed" him, and that he now wants to make sure Dick's ready to take on this mission. Brutal, but understandable in a way. And there are still numerous other highly trained people in the DCU, but he's still choosing to ask Dick, which says a lot.

I'm interested in seeing the eventual fallout of all of this though, as it's clear Dick doesn't think too highly of this, outright stating that things will never be the same between him and Bruce. Looks like we'll see some of the old distancing between the two, which i'm sure people will be happy with, as Bruce's events have pretty much ruined Dick's title since the reboot.

#7 Edited by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

He should use high tech gear like Sam Fisher, tranquilizers, rubber bullets, sticky shockers, etc. No lethal stuff.

Probably what he will use, similar to Jason. Also makes the most sense, as I don't see him being comfortable using lethal force in such a way. And if he can still take down any opponent he comes across, just like he always has in the past, I don't see why any of his superiors would care anyways.

#8 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

He doesn't need one, and doesn't kill. But it doesn't look like this is Dick's big chance to get away from batman though since it is batman who sent him on this mission and will probably be in contact with him somehow.

Don't know. Has his time in Bludhaven even been hinted at?

#9 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

^True enough. Having a gun doesn't mean the person wielding it has to constantly use it, kill anyone he comes across, or even go to it as his first line of defense. Given how skilled Dick is, and the fact we've seen images of him wielding Escrima Sticks, i'm hoping the gun won't be focused on too much.

#10 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

@nathaniel_christopher: Well you have to understand the reason behind that out of universe is to make sure he's still tied to Batman....but isn't being hindered by the batfamily at all. That elimates all possibility for now to focus on him and only him. I hate him being away from it but here, it's necessary.

Now he finally has direction concerning only him and making him look like the star(From what i'm seeing so far). . And it's not something everyone else in the Batfamily can do. I already hear the "Oh Jason or Tim would fit this" thing. I'm not sure myself they could. DG included. But that's why for DG, it's interesting. How can he deal with doing Justice in sketchy & different ways?

Besides, personally, those comments annoy me. I mean, the person who wrote for them gave them all Dick Grayson's connections and history as it is and now a new direction(And somehow, manage to screw both of em up. *SMFH* Didn't even do it good at LEAST) for him comes and people are like "this seems fit for Jason or Tim."? 3/4 of his history down the toilet in part thanks to people who gave them DG stuff so they can have direction and people still want to have em leech? They're so awesome in their own way. No leeching needed!

I disagree. I don't really see that being necessary at all. Don't want him to be hindered by the family? Then just don't write him in adventures with them. Same thing they're planning to do now, except they're also throwing a lie into the mix as well.

If anything, i'd prefer that Bruce be the one who think's he's dead instead, since it's Bruce and his adventures that have really been interfering with and hindering Dick's story since the Flashpoint.

It's new however. It's unique. And it still allows for character growth and for Dick to once more be different from his brothers in some ways, so i'm willing to see where it goes.