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#1 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably after Donna Troy came back to life.

#2 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

BTAS-TNBA

#3 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

Ras, Scarecrow, Bane, Freeze

#4 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

I like him equally for him and his villains that I find compelling and interesting (Ra, Joker, Freeze Pre -Flashpoint, etc.), and his supporting cast. So I like his books for him, but it's not just him, or just his villains. It's everything about it from the characters, to the tone, to the setting the writers use.

#5 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

That's like asking which Batman was better, the wisecracking, campy Batman of the past, or the grim and gritty Batman of the present. *shrug* I say Ledger for me, though Nicholson was also very good and fir the movie he appeared in.

#6 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

"Even if I do bring him home alive....Richard Grayson's life's been destroyed."

Pretty much, yeah.

#7 Edited by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

@muyjingo said:

@nathaniel_christopher said:

He didn't kill Darkseid. To be clear he dealt him a serious injury, then the Flashes dealt him another by leading the Black Racer to him, and then Superman finished him off. Just nitpicking.

In terms of Batgod, all I can think of is Zur-En-Arrh. May have to go back and look through some trades to see if there's anything else.

Meh. Darkseid may have died anyway. At a minimum, he killed darkseid with accomplices.

Doubt it, especially as the Flash dealt him another wound directly after. Darkseid ended up transcending his physical shell and was perfectly fine anyways. Superman killed him.

#8 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

His back problem in Rises being magically fixed by a strong hit, and him being forced to stand? Come on now, dude should've had all kinds of problems, not the least of which would be an infection. That's the biggest one that's always bugged me.

There's also the infamous no cartilage and the magic knee brace, which he later apparently doesn't need at all when he's in the prison and making huge leaps, and then walking through a desert in the middle of nowhere and somehow finding civilization ,and making his way back to Gotham with no money whatsoever, even though the city's locked down so no one can get in or out save the military who were captured. But he's Batman, without money or gadgets, so its fine.

#9 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

He didn't kill Darkseid. To be clear he dealt him a serious injury, then the Flashes dealt him another by leading the Black Racer to him, and then Superman finished him off. Just nitpicking.

In terms of Batgod, all I can think of is Zur-En-Arrh. May have to go back and look through some trades to see if there's anything else.

#10 Edited by Nathaniel_Christopher (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamtrmm said:
@nathaniel_christopher said:

And as I said before::

A Mutant with Telepathy as his power, that's Omega Level, is an Omega Level Mutant. Any mutant telepath that's been stated to be Omega Level is an Omega Level Mutant. Also, all that being Omega Level for a mutants means is that they're able to use whatever mutant ability they have at a certain level. All Omega Level Mutants (Bobby, Jean, Nate, etc.) are only able to use the powers they naturally have. You seem to be under the impression they can go outside those powers and learn any ability, as if Bobby could do something beyond his abilities with ice, which is completely false.

Iceman was a minor ice-projector before, now he controls moisture potentially on planetary level, can create duplicates of himself and be reformed from shattering to pieces, Nate was a powerful TP/TK, after that he evolved into reality warper with a body made of energy he could control and live beyond it, Absalom kinda the same, but we don't really know. What the three of them have in common? Their potential is unlimited, and it's unknowing what will happen to them next. Being Omega in particular power means being potentially unlimited just in one power, Telepathy or Telekinesis or whatever it is. The difference between OLM and not, is like comparison between Nate and Exodus, the second is not a pushover, but we've seen where Nate's potential leads him, while Exodus will remain approximately the same.

And I only quoted what I did to highlight that even the source you're attempting to use doesn't back up what you're saying about Omega Level Mutants.

Quotes from the site:

Omega Level Telekinetics

Cable was described by Havok as an Omega Level Telekinetic, during a burst of power.

To be precised that the Omega Level Telekinetics aren't presumably necessary Omega Level Mutants.
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Omega Level & Omega Class Telepaths

The mightier telepaths are considered to be part of a special category: the Omega Level, or Omega Class, Telepaths.

To be precised that the Omega Level Telepaths aren't presumably necessary Omega Level Mutants.

But nah, it doesn't back me up.

So you quoted the only sentence, which without reading the context means "there is no way of knowing how to classify mutants, because it was never explained". And then still you try to prove your own understanding? What's the point? Funny.

Uh, no he wasn't. His power-set has always been cryokinesis, with different abilities branching out from it. Just as Professor X's has always been TP. "minor ice projection" requires him to control the same moisture he controls now. The difference is now he's able to control it even further. Same basic ability taken to another level, using the same skill in a new way, etc. That's what an Omega Level Mutant is.

Nate Grey is a special case. Just like Jean Grey or Rachel Grey with the Phoenix are special cases. He received an amp that boosted his abilities, also similar to Havok getting closer to a star and having his regular powers amped. His body being made of energy wasn't a natural upgrade in ability, but a result of his battle with the Anti-Man, where he merged with him and became energy. It's no different than his current de-powered state not being due to any new issue with his powers, or the problems he used to suffer through burn out not being natural. And it's also not different than Rachel having the ability to freely manipulate matter while backed by the Phoenix.

Their potential is unlimited in terms of their set mutant abilities. They'll learn to use them in new ways and expand them, but you'll never have say Iceman using TK or a completely different ability that isn't related to his core set. That doesn't, and never has happened.

I try to prove that the definition you push for Omega Level mutant, and still continue to push is disproved by your own source. It isn't my source, so i'm not beholden to it in anything I say. In the same post I noted this, saying that wiki shouldn't ever be trusted as a credible source but that i'd gladly point out some things in it to you (Such as the fact that it disagrees with your def. of Omega Level Mutant) while you were using it. Again, you're still saying that site backs you up, i'm still saying it's a wiki and doesn't mean anything, or even make any sense, and makes even less sense for you to use it when it contradicts another point you're attempting to make.