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#1  Edited By MydLyfeCrysis
@Z3RO180: Oh, I agree. Lee's version does the entire get-up far better than that solicit image.
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#2  Edited By MydLyfeCrysis
@Z3RO180 said:
@MydLyfeCrysis: the new boot deign is way better than the boots in the pic u posted.
But that IS the new design...Do you mean another clip shows the boots designed better?
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@labarith: Can't respond without resorting to personal insults, huh? That's a sign of a weak intelligence. I was simply venturing my take on your comment. Even still, your response brings more questioning. 
 
First: Filler is still a part of the anime production. You cite how anime adaptations are an amazing example at why comics should be better suited for animation, yet, filler is a product of that relationship. An awful, awful, product of that relationship. You cannot simply take all the good from your evidence and say it substantiates your claim. How do you figure it will not happen in the U.S.? You are basing that entirely on supposition. The absence of filler would create a logistical issue on how the series proceeds. 
 
First 2.0: I don't even know what to say with the Runaways thing...So how is that an example of comics adapting to manga? You are giving a story idea. In all of your posts you have simply given us plot ideas, but you haven't given us what you cite as characteristics of manga, then characteristics of comics followed by a comparison of the two mediums. I still, simply, don't really know what you are even proposing but an abstract idea that doesn't put anything real forward.
 
Second: I never said there wasn't animation aimed at an adult audience here in the States. But the market is still small, and it is not often taken seriously as a medium. That is the way it is currently. It is changing, bit by bit, but it isn't a mainstream medium as of yet. Think of any mainstream animation success and what you do get? The likes of Family Guy, The Simpsons, South Park, and Adult Swim's lineup. In Adult Swim's ratings nearly every quarter the anime and the "serious" animated shows come in FAR behind the comedy shows that do not take themselves seriously. Hey, I wish it wasn't this way. I wish the main TV watching audience could, and would, accept a serious direction of animated content. Perhaps in time we can see this happen.  
 
Second 2.0: I would identify "adult" not as some sleezy rendition of hour heroine's breasts, as you assumed above. It is nice of you to assume the lowest common denominator, as it tells me quite a bit about you. I would define "adult oriented" animation as something that takes itself seriously. That can posit adult themes, darker themes, complex themes, and not hold the audience's hand. Nudity does not 'mature" content make. (See: Shippuuden .)
 
Third: Uhm, yes "take the assumption" means that one is taking a position by assuming something, usually as a given. And by your comments, it seemed as though you were taking the assumption (there it is in a sentence for you) that the end goal for comics should be an animated series. Yes more exposure, when it's good exposure, is fantastic, but I stand firm that many of those who read comics wouldn't likely abandon them completely for some animated series.
 
Fourth: I've followed quite a few anime shows, and do enjoy them when they are done well. But my like or dislike of said series doesn't really have a bearing on my position. Mainly because I still don't know just how you would make comics more like manga. Do you mean marketing? Writing? Art? Production? Deployment? Distribution?
 
Fifth: Hell yes anime is formulaic. You just described a genre. Further, it is a point by point example of the "Hero's Journey," or monomyth which is one of the few plots that exist. The world of superhero books do follow a great number of cliches, sure; that is a point I will give you. But I am able to stomach comic cliches far more than the average manga formula. The hero with a dark past, hidden powers, and amnesiac who is after the chick who is secretly a princess, who is also sought by the evil figure who shows redemption...blah blah. That isn't to say there isn't well done anime and manga out there. As I said before, I'm a fan. What I assert is my position of "formulaic" is different from simply stating a genre, or narrative pattern. 
 
Again, I would like to see you identify what you think the traits of manga, and the traits of comics, are and compare them in a logical way so I can understand how these changes would be. Story ideas don't tell us anything, really. You tout the writing ability of the comics industry by saying filler would be better in the comic's situation, yet, you proceed to say manga is better suited, which removing the art idea, would mean it's writing is better. You can see the confusion. Perhaps you mean the way the Japanese companies' system of marketing works for manga? The way they create a property and produce true-to-manga animated series based on it? Perhaps the way they milk, and whore out their property so that it receives maximum exposure? Well, in this situation doesn't that mean you are saying the industries development, production, and marketing should be more like manga, and not actually the content? That, I just may agree with.
 
I do look forward to your clarifying response, but please, keep it civil cowboy. :)
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We know that Marvel has a universe that generally shows most of the main religions (past and present) to be actualized in one way or another, and this fits their conceived universe I think.  I'd agree with the others that are stating that religious belief and evolution (macro-, or micro-, as one may believe in the former but not the latter, or both) don't necessarily cancel one another out. It's fairly small minds that think that one can only exist with the abandonment of the other.

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#5  Edited By MydLyfeCrysis
@labarith said:

One of the great things about the way that japanese manga has developped is that its generally very easy to adapt into a full fledged anime. 
 

This is highly debatable. How about the seasons, and seasons of awful Bleach and Shippuuden filler? This is a common fault on anime based on manga. Not to mention the genre is largely derivative and formulaic. Further you don't really say how this can be achieved. What exactly do you mean, 'be more like manga'? That would be like me saying, "video games should be virtual reality". It is all well and good, but how is that achieved? The adaptation really has very little to do with the content in the books, and much to do with the producers and audiences involved. Anime has been an adult medium in Japan for decades, yet in America the idea of "adult cartoons" is still developing and gaining traction. With this current status it is difficult to find a production company willing to take the medium and create a serious project from it. Though, I would point you to the likes of the Spawn animated series produced by HBO, and Timm's Batman: The Animated Series for just how good shows can be when they are taken seriously.
 
Further you take the assumption that the end result of all comic fans and readers is animation. But, quite clearly, it isn't.
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Gotta be honest, the Superman redesign doesn't look bad there. What I can't stand is Wonder Woman not having anything, really, that resembles the purpose of her original outfit. The whole, representing the country to which she was an ambassador. Are the stars even there? I mean, I can shrug off the Action Comics 900 travesty, but now 'of America' is decidedly gone from this book and her costume has no discernible relation to her previous character. This apparent distancing from the nation idea is beginning to irritate me.

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#7  Edited By MydLyfeCrysis
@Mainline: Awesome answer as usual. I'm going to throw my lot in here.
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#8  Edited By MydLyfeCrysis

It's not bad. Definitely sleeker, I think. I dig it so far.

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It's a combination of two things really. The recession and economic crisis coupled with the advent of digital distribution and an evolving of the industry
 
In a crisis such as we have faced on the economy, entertainment and luxury industries are the ones who feel the hurt. 

People look at store sales and cry there is a crisis going on, but all that really proves is the industry is not recession proof. There was a study that examined the rate of slowing and falling sales in the different mediums of entertainment, and comics fell within the same percentage as others. Video games, films, magazines, books, and hit the hardest, music have all seen fairly drastic slumps in their numbers. The mediums that saw major problems were music, magazines, and newspapers, though this is in big parts the recession, the internet has also cut deeply into the profits of magazines and newspapers, and piracy is still a problem for music, though iTunes has only seen monumental gains in it's profits.
 
So, if the comic industry's drop-off fell within the ratio of normal for the other big entertainment industries (even if it's number's aren't at the same level), I wouldn't find that comforting, but also not particularly alarming. Further, we must consider the growing pains of the digital age. While we never will see comics disappear, there will be a day when the comic shop does. If you look back and remember the infancy of the digital distribution, and still now, the many music stores across the country began to cry that the death of the music industry had arrived. This was not true, though the death knell of brick and mortar music shops was sounding. Analysts, and executives, and even artists began to cry foul about dropping numbers, market uncertainty, and the fear of purely digital distribution. Now we see that digital distribution really is the future of music sales, and it clearly has mitigated some of the damage piracy has caused. Could you imagine the state of the industry if digital distribution hadn't succeeded?
 
I see comics experiencing a little of this uncertainty as well. Digital distribution promises the possibility of unprecedented exposure to the industry, ease of delivery, and the accessibility a digital service can provide. As devices like the iPad become commonplace, we see that the over 1 million downloads ComiXology has seen on Android alone, isn't a one-off fluke. But, this causes a market uncertainty. While more sales altogether may be seen, it may not be pooled into one comic that was just released. While a back catalog of a publisher sees renewed interest, their newest issue may stay stagnant until the market grows.
 
Further we see rather large sections of graphic novels popping up in our book retailers. People are more and more shifting from the magazine treatment in order to purchase the entire novel. Some wait for their stories, or boxed collections, to appear on Amazon for one big purchase.
 
So, will comics ever disappear? I doubt in my lifetime they will ever approach irrelevancy. But they are evolving, as much of the monolithic entertainment industry is. To look at the comic industry as a whole, we see, relative to the recession, a very powerful entity. Yet, it is an entity in change. While our superheroes will not be forgotten into the void, we may eventually reach a time where the brick and mortar stores and that focus on magazine issues of comics fade. While it would be a shame for the operators and those who enjoy that side of the comics world, our hobby and the industry will soldier on into whatever incarnation takes their place.

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I really, really hope he wasn't mad in that phone call.