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People actually think he could lift it? Wow. No way he should be able to. Batman does what he does not out of the goodness of his heart or a desire to help people, but because of an obsessive need to fill a void left inside him from when his parents were murdered. I've always believed that Gotham and it's villains are a reflection of Batman. So Gotham is a miserable place because Batman is miserable. Don't get me wrong he goes good things and that obsessive desire makes him a great hero , but I think at his core he is motivated by a very selfish reason. It's sort of why everyone around him ends up miserable or hating him because he puts that selfish desire above everything else. It's what differentiates Bruce from Dick even though he saw his parents murdered in front of him as well. Dick enjoys being a hero and helping people. That is what motivates him because he is able to move on from his parents death unlike Bruce.

As someone who found the Wally changes dumb and about as lazy as you can get I didn't mind the Huntress/Helena B. changes. Mostly because she is in the same age group as she was in before and she is interacting with a peer who was a friend before the reboot to her while she was Huntress. They didn't deage her into a preteen and throw in some awful "troubled black youth" stereotype or things like that. Her hair is a little more curly and she has a darker skin tone, but she is still a badass and the changes feel like they came from the creative team rather than DC telling them to change her a certain way like they did with Wally.

Sure it is sad that she can't be Huntress in the reboot because Helena Wayne is running around, and the fact that Helena Wayne has been such a bore and just plain awful in the reboot (Power Girl and World's Finest has just been such a massive disappointment given the potential they had with that title), so it is a little annoying that a disappointing reason like that is the reason for the changes, but it was handled so much better than Wally.

All the stuff with Lex was done quite well, but yeah, everything outside of that was kind of poor. Dick Grayson's whole situation with getting his identity exposed and having to pretend to be dead (it looked like all the Justice League plus Lex and Catwoman see him alive and well), the rest of the villains aside from Lex didn't get much attention, Batman not doing much, Catwoman also not doing much and just being "there" most of the time, how Earth-3 Luthor was used and quickly done away with, and how really resolving the CSA characters stories, namely Owlman. He sort of just appeared in a few panels then disappeared.

@g_man: But it is more like we are getting the name back not the character. The two have a completely different backstory, connection to Flash, and upbringing (he seems to be the generic street punk kid in the Annual preview) and I don't see how he can ever be the Wally people wanted back. It's like how people say they want the old Superman back. He isn't the same because he went through different things in the New 52, namely his parents dying. He can't be like how he used to. It's just sad they brought Steph back with barely any changes (she looks the same, her father is the same and they are even going to build up her connection to characters like Tim back) but they couldn't do the same for Wally.

I mean for the longest time you were such a big proponent of "maybe some version of the old Titans still happened". Maybe they could have had the old Wally people wanted back have a previous connection to Flash but just lost his powers, retired and is just a normal university student somewhere and this black/hispanic Wally could have been a brand new character they could have built into the new Kid Flash.

It now looks like DC has no clue what to do with characters from Dick's generation and the whole 5 year time line half relaunch/half reboot is still impacting things currently. Those characters really got screwed over hard in the reboot because of their age and where they fits into DC's new history. Seems like they are even sending Dick off on his own away from everyone for a while so they don't have to deal with him. As someone who really enjoyed those generation of characters and their friendship (they were more like a family than friends) it's sad to see them get treated so badly now. At times like this I wish DC had done a full reboot or I had grown up with a different generation of characters.

Changing Wally into a black/hispanic character really just feels like lazy writing. Like they needed to fill a quota. Why not change Stephanie Brown's skin color as well when you introduced her? The bat line could use some more black female characters. It's just sad that Marvel is willing to put in the extra effort in promoting new characters of color (the new Ghost Rider and Ms Marvel are to great recent examples) but DC isn't willing to spend that extra effort.

Though I'm surprised Tony isn't more upset that Wally is a teen again and not the same age as Dick Grayson. Seems like he is going to be the new Kid Flash on the Teen Titans with Tim as well.

Edit: Also they changed Spider-man back because there was a new Spider-man movie coming out. Of course they were going to revert back before that. Wally is now black on the Flash show. So this feels like a change to reflect that change on the show.

@nightfang: Because Lobdell is a shit writer, lol.

I can understand using Robin and Superman. They've been heroes for over 5+ years and we really don't know what is still in continuity and what isn't anymore with them as they decided to start their New 52 universe 5 years in and skipped a bunch, but Supergirl's entire New 52 book has been one big origin story. it started with her crashing on Earth. You can't start any earlier than that.

@g_man: It feels more like Jason Todd. It's cray how DC has switched their characters in the reboot. Dick is now the secret spy while everyone has to think he is dead while Jason is the one leading and is friends with the former Titans going on big colorful space adventures and stuff.

I think DC is at a loss with the character. They don't really know what to do with him. He no longer has any friends or created the Titans. His friends and history with the Titans have been given to Jason and Tim and in the reboot and Dick has been left with basically nothing. So trying to write the character like how he used to be wasn't really working when those old stories and relationships are gone.Hopefully the new series doesn't get too dark. It doesn't fit his character.

Still, I think exposing his identity is going to turn out to be a complete waste, as I really don't see why many would care that much given everyone already knows Bruce funds Batman Inc. and Johns seems to have no interesting in following up on the story he introduced, so it is going to be a rough handful of years while DC constantly tried to "fix" Dick's character and continues to reset his direction every new arc.

People need to remember that Jason still uses guns and Bruce doesn't really care. In the Batman/Superman annual Bruce even went to Jason specifically because he uses guns and because he needed his help.

Still, it is like Dick and Jason have switched roles in the New 52. That is just so weird. Jason is leading the Titans and has friends and Dick is doing secret spy stuff with guns and is some friendless loaner. xD