Jean Grey is Coming

Surely anyone reading a prominent Marvel title has noticed a certain character popping up here and there lately. No? Well it's Jean Grey/Phoenix/Dark Phoenix. 
 
Here's some examples where I myself noticed (and I'm sure there's probably some I've missed) 
 

 Dark Phoenix is plucked from time and is used to end the world in this, but that's just this prologue issue :) And she's pretty prominent on the cover
 Her Age of Apocalypse version is currently fighting with X-Force as they now reside in that universe. She's a very prominent character in the story 
 The final issue of Uncanny before the relaunch.Normally I would take a cover like this as a throw back to the original line-up, and on it's own it is, but with everything else going on.....
Anyone that's been reading the arc in X-Men will agree it's confusing but ultimately awesome. 2 stories are being told in this arc, one in the past when Jean was with the X-men originally 
 So those are the ones I've seen. 
I think what's going on is Marvel wants to bring Jean back, and that they also have an idea as to how. However, the average comic fan would be against that. So what they are trying to do is get people interested in her character NOW, without resurrecting the poor girl, and are trying to create a situation where it seems like the fans asked for her to come back because there's such an interest. If 50% of fans wouldn't mind that happening then they will do it. Currently I'd say 5% actually do, and to bring her back at all will always be cheap.
 
But they just want to justify it to sell the comics. To me, this is the case anyway. It looks inevitable that she will return and with all the hype over at DC, which I predict will put them above Marvel for a time, Marvel need BIG stories.
 
Has anyone seen her anywhere else?
 
PS: I don't think she'll come back from AOA, I have better faith in Remender.
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Posted by Mercy_

She was in a shot of a promo or something for Schism, can't remember what. She was standing on the edge of a bunch of X-Men in the green Phoenix costume.

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Posted by Aiden Cross

Well I wouldn't mind it so much if she came back. I just hope it doesn't make Scott into a crybaby wondering who he should be with >_>

Posted by Mercy_
@Aiden Cross When given the option, he's already chosen Emma.
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Posted by Mercy_

And if they do bring her back, they need to do it without the dang PF.

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Posted by MuadDiab
@The Dark Huntress: picture?
Posted by Mercy_
@MuadDiab Can't post one. I'm on my phone. Will try and find it when I wake up.
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Posted by Aiden Cross
@The Dark Huntress said:
@Aiden Cross When given the option, he's already chosen Emma.

myeah, but i'm not so sure the writer will agree when the choice comes >_>
Posted by ReVamp
@The Dark Huntress
Please do. It would be cool. But I still don't think he'd choose Emma, with the real live Jean in front of him  (figuratively ofcourse) and if he does, I doubt the decision would keep up for long.
Edited by Timandm

If she comes back, how long will it be till she dies again?
 
@MuadDiab
what title did that image with Iron-man and Phoenix come from?

Posted by MuadDiab
@Timandm: the Iron Age: Alpha it was called
Posted by Timandm
@MuadDiab: Thanks!  Clearly I need to read it...
Posted by John Valentine

This proves nothing. Everything she's been featured in was either set in past 616 or an alternate reality. 

Posted by azza04

PF is to powerful to have on a team. If they bring her back hopefully she won't have it.

Posted by MuadDiab
@John Valentine: That was never the point. The point is that fans are reading stories that involve Jean Grey a lot at the moment, without her returning proper. This leads me to believe that Marvel are readying us for the big event. These are all in the last 2 months or less and I wouldn't be surprised if she is elsewhere in issues of stuff I haven't read
Posted by Dernman

We all know the Pheonix is back if you been reading certain comics. Like when Rachel lost the Pheonix powers and said no mom not yet.
Or when Hope had Pheonix in her eyes. The question is whether or not Hope is Pheonix/Jean Grey reincarnated.

Posted by VprVnmSRT10

I had a discussion about this not too long ago.

Heres my thoughts:

1. I think Jean will come back as Jean.I think something big is going to happen in Schism.

I think Jean will come back and find Scott and Emma together and run straight into Logan's arms. Sounds corny I know. The whole thing with the teams splitting up is a big thing. Scott will have his own team and Logan will have his own as well. (I havent read the first two issues - so no spoilers pretty please).

2. I can think of another character that could possibly be returning, Charles Xavier anyone??

Maybe this is just wishful thinking from my side. But I believe the Marvel Universe is ready for the return of Jean Grey and Charles. I would really like to see Marvel explore a real relationship between Jean and Logan. Scott is with Emma and I am okay with that. I dont like Emma, but I think Jean and Logan would make for an awesome story.

Edited by Dernman

I never liked 616 Jean with Wolverine. If Jean does return and moves on From Cyclops who might not be around after Schism.
It can't be because she is mad. It was her who altered him to be able to be with her.
 
 Um what are you talking about ready for Charles return he never went anywhere he has been on Utopia with everyone else.
Right now hes in X-men legacy.

Posted by John Valentine
@MuadDiab said:
@John Valentine: That was never the point. The point is that fans are reading stories that involve Jean Grey a lot at the moment, without her returning proper. This leads me to believe that Marvel are readying us for the big event. These are all in the last 2 months or less and I wouldn't be surprised if she is elsewhere in issues of stuff I haven't read
Or.... this could be an alternative to placate Jean fans without 616 Jean her returning to 616 Reality? She's already been featured a lot in similar capacity throughout the last few years.
Posted by John Valentine
@Dernman said:
The question is whether or not Hope is Pheonix/Jean Grey reincarnated.
I'm pretty sure the reason the Phoenix Force left Rachel and the Cuckoos was because it came to Hope. IIRC, it's been stated that Hope is not Jean reincarnate. 
Posted by Dernman
@John Valentine: I don't remember seeing that but if that's true what a bummer.
It was like having my cake my cake and eating it too. Having jean grey back and not having her back. Because it was a reincarnation and not a resurrection.
 
Wait are you sure they said reincarnation and not something different because there is a HUGE difference.
Edited by fodigg

If Jean comes back they'll need to do some serious character work on her to make her stand out as a unique character, because they've handed all her usual props out to other characters in her absence. I think pairing her up with anyone would get in the way of that. Of course Logan should pine after her, but that romance shouldn't happen--at least not until Jean had carved out a niche for herself that isn't one of the following: 

She needs something new and entirely her own
Edited by VprVnmSRT10

@Dernman: Sorry, I am talking about original X-Men. I am Schism will tie in more to that story. He hasn't been in there for ages. I dont really read Legacy. I sometimes dabble in Uncanny X-Men and Uncanny X-Force. I tend to stick to the normal X-Men series. I have read a couple of X-23 and Daken issues.

Which X-Men series do you read currently?

Posted by Aiden Cross
@fodigg: I think Jean could be the X-Men's conscience. It used to be Beast but now that he left, jean could fill that spot.
Posted by AgeofHurricane

I wanna see how she'll react to the wipe out of all her family members.

Posted by MuadDiab
@fodigg: very true. her position i the world of x-men would have to be an entirely new take. Cyclops and and Emma shouldn't be affected by her return. I even think she would have to stay away from Wolverine, who has a girlfriend and is pretty busy with the x-men, x-force and avengers. 
Posted by MuadDiab
@John Valentine: thats true, but is there actually an outcry to bring her back (or have her featured elsewhere). I would have guessed the opposite existed, but i don't know. Kind of like them bringing back Cable. It seems way too soon in his case
Posted by EnSabahNurX
@MuadDiab said:
@fodigg: very true. her position i the world of x-men would have to be an entirely new take. Cyclops and and Emma shouldn't be affected by her return. I even think she would have to stay away from Wolverine, who has a girlfriend and is pretty busy with the x-men, x-force and avengers. 
I think her and emma need to have a fight or an argument just because emma promised to fight jean or phoenix but really it should be a fight to settle their issues and so emma can move on from her jean issues(tired of emma whining even though scott chose her) 
Keep jean from scott they should just say they are good with how things lay, then jean can react to her family being wiped out and everything that's occurred(do a four to five  issue mini series) and find her place. Maybe be on a team with Rachel, do more H2H fighting so she doesn't just wave her arms. O_O She can be in X-men Legacy with Rogue.  
The problem is marvel made too many copies of jean so fitting her some where appropriate is difficult.
 
Wolverine should just get over his jean thing with the jean from AoA so that ends or at least he will leave her alone for a while or just leave the tension between them(jean should not date for a while, pull a Rogue and leave him hanging)
Posted by fodigg
@Aiden Cross said:
@fodigg: I think Jean could be the X-Men's conscience. It used to be Beast but now that he left, jean could fill that spot.
Not a bad idea, but I see that more as a 'team role" than as a "character hook."
Posted by Dernman
@VprVnmSRT10:  Well are so many comics that are out me and my friends each buy certain comics then we read each others. So I read it all.
 
If I was making a team to define X-Men I would have Jean on it but to me it feels like they have move so far from her that she would be out of place.
Maybe after Schism things will be different.
Posted by John Valentine
@MuadDiab said:
@John Valentine: thats true, but is there actually an outcry to bring her back (or have her featured elsewhere). I would have guessed the opposite existed, but i don't know. Kind of like them bringing back Cable. It seems way too soon in his case
This isn't exactly a recent development. Marvel's been teasing this for years.
Posted by MuadDiab
@John Valentine: ya but, across the board like this in such a small space of time?.........
Posted by John Valentine
@MuadDiab said:
@John Valentine: ya but, across the board like this in such a small space of time?.........
  1. It was logical for Jean to be featured in "First to Last" seeing as it was set during the early days of the O5 team. This was merely a flashback appearance.
  2. I haven't read "The Iron Age: Alpha", but IIRC, it's something to do about Iron Man and time/reality traveling. That's clearly Dark Phoenix on the cover, again, not set in 616.
  3. She's in Uncanny X-Force because a) it generates a romantic tension for Logan. b) because she's an important player in that universe. At our last glimpse of this universe (during the Anniversary Series in 2005 or Exiles) she was an important and core member of the X-Men. 616 Jean is not the same as AoA Jean, anyway.
She may have appeared in three totally unconnected things within a short space of time, but none of these appearances drop clues (save for possibly AoA) to her being brought back. 
If anything, her appearing to Emma in Uncanny X-Men, Emma's reaction to the Phoenix at the end of/after Second Coming or her appearing to Logan in Wolverine are more firm in suggesting her reappearance.
Posted by Macsimus
@The Dark Huntress said:
@Aiden Cross When given the option, he's already chosen Emma.

He never chose Emma infact he denied her. He basically quit everything and probly died of broken heart and created the Sublime Beast future. Jean had to reach back thru time and push Scott at Emma, not exactly choosing!
Posted by MuadDiab

would you believe, this comic is littered with the girl in question 

Posted by AgeofHurricane

(i just remembered something !) Isn't Jean supposed to come back when she's collected all the pieces of the Phoenix ?(seeing as how they are one) and since AoA Jean has a piece of it (which should be removed during the Dark Angel Saga if she doesn't come into 616) as well as Hope (she hasn't shown any signs as to loosing it) then i don't think she'll be coming back anytime soon.

Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt

Ivee said brfore that maybe her taking Logan's place on the Avengers might be nice. she seems to make more sense than Logan and the main team has a lack of female members apparently.
Posted by zombietag

eh a lot of those redheads look alike we cant tell whos who yet. you might be right though.

Posted by jcbart

I hope Jean finally returns (not in Schism, too much is going on already for her to just appear and be all "I'MM BACK oh you're busy I'll come back later"), and I really do hope that she won't join the X-Men. Is it too much to hope for a solo series? I would like her to join The Avengers with Beast but there're too many Avengers books so that's a moot point and makes her return redundant.

Posted by Samimista

Can't wait for my girl to come back.

Posted by Shadowdoggy
@jcbart
yeah, she's not going to join the Avengers 
she's a mutant, and a powerful one and all that 
but the Avengers is a team for the world's greatest superheroes 
she's just a mutant
Posted by jubilee042
@Samimista: tell me about it
Posted by DEGRAAF

im ok with her coming back from the white hot room or where ever she is but i want her to be herself while still having full control of her abilities and the PF have no essence of the PF at all. It would be interesting to see if The PF brought her back so it could jump to Hope (as  maybe the PF finds Hope as a better vessell  then Jean now) and JEan fights to keep it bc she has delt with it for so long she doesnt think Hope could handle it and would end up going crazy like Jean once did. Plus it would most likely magnify Hopes powers if she had them to the point she could copy every mutants powers on Utopia or in the universe.
Posted by AgeofHurricane

The Phoenix and Jean are one. -_-

Posted by DEGRAAF

I still want to see an Omega-Level Mutant Team. She should come back and create that thinking she can do more good than what the X-Men are currently doing. 
 
It could be her as the leader with Iceman as her right hand man and they hand pick other omega level potentially powerful mutants
Posted by MuadDiab
@DEGRAAF: that's an interesting idea, even without Jean possibly
Posted by CellphoneGirl

They've been hinting at her return for years now lol  
 
I have a feeling that it's going to be during Schism. 

Posted by DEGRAAF
@MuadDiab
Thanks i keep mentioning it in different forums hoping one day it would happen 
 

i remember a resurgence of her in comics a couple of years ago also and everyone thought she was coming back and i dont think she ever did.
Posted by KDarkholme

There is no way she is not going to have the PF how else is she going to get back.
Posted by CATPANEXE

that's hot.

Posted by AgeofHurricane
@KDarkholme: Thank you.
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