MrGOD

I still miss that GL green arrow friendship.

@avenging_x_bolt

Im not mad i'm just trying to get my point across but I see how you think my comment got out of hand.

@extremis Most of my comments are to show my liking of the character not to bash John. And John was ranked 55 on a list of 100 while Hal placed 7th so that only furthers my point. I just don't see how you can see John as one of the best characters as he hasn't done a whole lot as of now , but with GL corps becoming his own title maybe that will change but as is ,he isn't even in the top 50. I really don't feel like arguing with you for 4 more threads but I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

If he was younger he would make a good Hal Jordan.

Drake Bell? Fucking kill me.

DC does villains month, then Marvel has to do Lego month. Good one Marvel ;)

Billy Tan? jk

Extremis

Ive seen you single out Hal many times so don't be a hypocrite.

"Can't wait to see how Venditti handles Hal and his new (unwanted) leadership role"

" I think he gives people a dull first impression of the mythos"

@ Extremis "He's one the best characters in comics history"

Not even closet. he hasn't done anything significant. obviously you guys have a hard on for the character. Like you've stated "He is an iconic black superhero ". That is about all he is, a black superhero. That is why he is so famous and that's why you like him. If your not a fan of Hal well tough he is the main protagonist. But other than Hal there are two way better written characters than John ,Guy and Kyle. There is a direct correlation between this character's fans and race. I've seen some of the The_Greatest_Green_Lantern 's post and he seems overly fond of Batwing, Cyborg , and John which just furthers my theory. This character isn't anywhere near the level of high regard you have for the character. And my original point was the reason he is in the background is because he isn't interesting or important enough which is why the writers have no story for him. I'm sorry that your favorite character isn't as high up as you though he was. Read the article there are very good points in there.

And let me expand on that previous comment "He's one the best characters in comics history" not even close. Lets really dissect the character shall we. He starts his GL career of as a replacement for Guy because Guy is in a coma. He later replaces Hal for 8 issues with appearances from Hal , then he goes on to work with the Cosmic Odessy ( a failed mini series). after running out of things to do with the character he is introduced into the series Mosaic which lasted 18 issues before being cancelled . Then he went on to join Darkstars which didn't last long either (John got paralyzed in his run in the comic) . And then Hal gave him the ability to walk after being paralyzed. After being given a ring by Rayner he joins the justice league ( not doubt the cartoon influenced that line up) and after rebirth he didn't have a staring role any any GL comic for some time until the new 52 where he is then partnered with Guy. So you see over the years he has had more temporary role and team roles than anything. He is far from being within the top 50 superhero characters , as I recall IGN ranked him 55th on a list whereas Hal made 7th. It is just a fact he doesn't even come close to the title " one the best characters in comics history".

The main appeal of the character is race. I'm white/black and I do see the lack of black superheroes as a problem but a bigger problem is fabricating a character value. I loved John in the cartoon I just feel that's the character you love. Because as a frequent reader of GL titles I see no reason to be drawn to the character other than his race and his appearance on a cartoon from 6 years ago.

@ The_Greatest_Green_Lantern

You sir are the fan boy. John is a crappy character who hasn't been written properly but yet you still cling to this notion that he is important in the mythos. And did you seriously say Hal Jordan isn't that special i mean he was the first human to be inducted into the corps every character ( including Guy, John, Kyle, Baz, and Sinestro) come from a story of his and are thus extensions of his character. None of the other Lanterns have an origin that doesn't revolve around Hal. Look at ever big Green lantern event for the past few years and he is the star of a majority of them ( not third army or wrath of the first lantern). He has more media exposure and if you read my article instead of just reading the title you would see he is more important. He is a founder of the justice league, leader of the corps, He beat the first Lantern, and He knows Sinestro better than any other GL. What has John done other than stand in the back round of the GLC series with Guy Gardner in the Lead. Sure he has become a guardian and sure he fought of some black lanterns ( who hasn't) but he hasn't done anything that important.

Sure you can say it's because of the writers , but really it isn't becuase no one wants to build on to a boring supporting cast character, which is why he is always in the background doing something insignificant . Your argument is invalid and it is you who are fan boy. That's the only reason you would cling to this character a cartoon and his race, sounds like a close minded fan boyism to me.