@misterguyman: Disarming is a hand-to-hand feat, but what good is it on another unarmed foe? The original blade gives Altair the agility edge? How so? You have no canon showings of Altair using his hidden blade in open conflict. He's always got his guard down and the player has to time the counter perfectly every time. Also, when Altair is in open conflict, he usually just automatically equips his sword. Moreover, Altair, even Connor have completely different animations when comparing hidden blade to hand-to-hand.
I never pretended that none of Altair's feats wouldn't count. I've just become a much better debater since our last beef. I've accepted my flawed arguments and found holes in yours.
These two are my favorite of the Assassins actually. In an older topic I gave both of them an equal chance in hand to hand. Now I'd give Altair an edge. Connor is physically stronger but that strength doesn't translate into feats. Altair has the agility advantage since he's the only one of the main Assassins to train with the original hidden blade. They couldn't parry anything and are the closest to hand to hand combat. Having said that, Altair has better H2H feats. He fights and disarms several Assassins without getting damaged in Revelations.
With weapons Altair definitely wins. His feats are just better.
When Altair uses the hidden blade for anything other than assassinations, holla back. Disarming has no use when in a hand-to-hand fight.
@onilordasmodeus: That's incorrect, I'm pretty sure by the end of Connor's memories he retired from the Order. He never really wanted to be part of it anyway.
We aren't going to predict a stealth attack from Ezio. Trip-wires, blood bombs, smoke screens etc. Stealth and Combat tactics that far outdo 6 months of training with S.H.I.E.L.D PT's.
@jayc1324: Not sure, but everything she does seems to be on par with Cassie most times. Is Wade even fast enough to draw on her before she cuts his heart out?
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