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Stab to the brain. Though he'll come back

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Stop breathing= dead Logan

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@god_spawn: well they can't dismember him in anything canon just like character deaths don't stick lol , in ultimate wolverine vs hulk, he was ripped in half .in timestorm an older wolverine was missing his arm at the shoulder . in marvel universe vs wolverine the hulk bit off his arm at the elbow ,given the arm eventually grew back but he had adamantium and the injuries i mentioned were at the joints . which are not coated with adamantium otherwise how would wolverine move ? lol, if you are looking for just canon incidents i won't argue lol

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@super_soldierxii: I was trying to point out the ady piercing ady in terms of how Wolverine killed himself. I can still see where you're coming from with Hulk, but I don't find the showing legit by any means. Based on the physics of it, potentially it could in the future, but I don't think Hulk can. He isn't strong enough to do so since Thor could barely dent ady with his full power and a Hulk like WWH didn't cave his skull in. I chalk it up to a moment of Aaron's hack writing to try and be funny, since he does at times trade logic for jokes, or an artistic mistake. Especially when you consider that same Hulk was weakening throughout the fight as well. I think you have a point, but until it happens again, I think it's just speculation.

The feat just simply isn't legit and I don't think anyone should take it seriously, not like they have to begin with. But I think on the end result we agree, soooo yeah.

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@mjbiebs: while his skeleton is laced with adamantium , his joints are not. so when the logan who wanted to die said you know what to do , im going to guess he decapitated his future self , and if he was smart threw the head far from the body so future self could not heal .

He can't be dismemebered. Hulk level characters couldn't rip his arms even out of their sockets and someone already tried decapitating him with an adamantium buzzsaw and once it hit his neck it stoppped.

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@mjbiebs: while his skeleton is laced with adamantium , his joints are not. so when the logan who wanted to die said you know what to do , im going to guess he decapitated his future self , and if he was smart threw the head far from the body so future self could not heal .

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@super_soldierxii: And if it were the case as for what happened in the cave, Wolverine would never have had issues trying to cut Cyber. I don't think Hulk, especially in the condition he was in, is capable of piercing adamantium, even with adamantium given that Thor with a magic hammer that Wolverine couldn't cut, barely dented the stuff with a full powered swing. Until it happens again, I say WIS or artistic mistake and it will be something writers will and already have ignored. It will be similar to the whole Angel of Death deal with Logan when they said if he "dies" one more time, he is dead forever. That clearly hasn't held up so I don't think this will either. It came, we saw, it went.

I don't think we can compare that to Wolverine and Cyber ... as the keynote was "with enough force". Hulk's got it, Logan does not. All I'm saying, is it's possible for once substance to compromise another substance of equal strength and density. Might hold true with adamantium. Especially if substance doing the piercing is razor sharp and driven with enough force - as, say, from a creature who juggles mountains. That said, Wolverine is not ramming his claws through the head of another "Wolverine" and I too think that showing will probably fade away into the annals of obscurity.

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@super_soldierxii: And if it were the case as for what happened in the cave, Wolverine would never have had issues trying to cut Cyber. I don't think Hulk, especially in the condition he was in, is capable of piercing adamantium, even with adamantium given that Thor with a magic hammer that Wolverine couldn't cut, barely dented the stuff with a full powered swing. Until it happens again, I say WIS or artistic mistake and it will be something writers will and already have ignored. It will be similar to the whole Angel of Death deal with Logan when they said if he "dies" one more time, he is dead forever. That clearly hasn't held up so I don't think this will either. It came, we saw, it went.

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@super_soldierxii: I understand where you are coming from, but I don't say it was very valid to begin with. I counted that as more of a PIS moment or artistic mistake on rendering. My guess would be Aaron wanted it to go through the eyes but due to the art mistake they just touched it up and rolled with it. Aside from that, I'd say adamantium breaking would have been a bigger deal than that and the moment will just be forgotten in history.

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@god_spawn said:

@godtriggerhulk said:

Maybe adamantium can pierce adamantium?

It can't.

Edit: The adamantine claws were for X-Treme X-Men Wolverine, my mistake.

Might be able to with enough force. Hulk drove Wolverine's own claws into his head in Hulk's own title not too long ago (the Thing and Wolverine were taking on Hulk together ... and failed).

I mean, if you have folded steel honed razor sharp, with enough force behind it, it can be driven into equally dense steel ... don't see why the same wouldn't hold true for adamantium. Though it need be said there are few who have "enough force" to be sure.

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@god_spawn: If you say so. I guess I'm confused on cases where the source material's been flexible enough to borrow from their adaptations. I don't think it's wise to hold them as outright wrong, especially when the source material explicitly doesn't rule them out. To each his own, I guess.

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@vampireselektor: Because it still isn't the source material. That's why I find it erroneous.

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@god_spawn: Why erroneous? I can understand "invalid". If the source and its adaptation don't mesh, that's understandable. There have been cases where the TV and film have influenced their source comics, though. I'm not trying to be difficult, but please explain.

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@vampireselektor: I still find what happens in the TV erroneous, but whatevs. We're going in circles so I guess I'll leave it at that.

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@god_spawn: TV and film matter in hypothetical situations like these. If the comics haven't made a rule, anything's fair game. Even then those rules can be broken. There's still the possibility that Wolverine would/already has developed a nanite tolerance. It's not impossible, just not full proof.

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@lykopis said:

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@lykopis: I don't like anyone in Age of Ultron.It looks like Bendis is just doing his own thing and nothing looking to the characters' personalities and previous events.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Word. :P

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@lykopis: I don't like anyone in Age of Ultron.It looks like Bendis is just doing his own thing and nothing looking to the characters' personalities and previous events.

Truer words have never been spoken.

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@lykopis: I don't like anyone in Age of Ultron.It looks like Bendis is just doing his own thing and nothing looking to the characters' personalities and previous events.

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@god_spawn said:

I haven't completely kept up with AoU, so forgive me on my ignorance if I am wrong, but maybe people are overlooking the fact it was an alternate Wolverine, so the powers may not be exactly the same. I know AoU Luke Cage tanked a nuke and slapped around She-Hulk when 616 Luke Cage shouldn't be able to do either. And Wolverine does seem a bit hindered in the book. IIRC, his leg was burnt and he fell into a coma to heal for 5 days. Soooo, yeah.

That would be the most logical thing because there have been just too many misconceptions.But if that is just an alternate story or that's just a vision or a dream it would be good.But if that is actually true then Bendis is showing us some real s#@t!

Agreed. I don't like how Wolverine is being depicted in Age of Ultron anyway. **adjusts head canon**

Wolverine could be brought down to his skeleton and kept in a vat of anticoagulant dextrant with a high level of acidity to prevent cell regrowth?

Oh he can just get really, really old and die since he does age.

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@vampireselektor: But the TV's and films are different nonetheless, and therefore not part of the actual continuity so it still doesn't matter. And considering how smart someone of Nemesis' caliber is, they can always alter it so it wouldn't be.

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@god_spawn: 1) Yes, but this was his first exposure. What would happen the next time? 2) Maybe, but I'm not a biologist. 3) Adaptations often influence the continuity of their source comics (think: Harley Quinn, Tim Drake's costume). One could argue TV shows and films are good indicators of what could happen in the comics.

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@vampireselektor: His body didn't seem to mind them or even notice them even with his HF before Cyclops hit the switch. And since it is a comic, I'd say they could make a way that his body didn't detect them. And I only take info from the actual comics for continuity's sake, regardless if the show is based off of it.

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@god_spawn: Oh, I forgot about that story. Does the body register these nanites as bacteria? If Wolverine was regularly exposed to nanites, couldn't his body develop a resistance to them? Let's assume the people targeting Wolverine here are around Dr. Nemesis' pedigree.

Have you watched the episode of "X-Men: the Animated Series" where Cable infects Wolverine with the Legacy Virus? The Legacy Virus was designed to kill mutants by disrupting their mutation, but Wolverine healed up just fine. Nanites that shut down one's healing factor are more specific, though. Again, do nanites register as bacteria? Meaning if nanites totally shut down Wolverine's healing factor once, would his immune system resist them the next time? Could Wolverine develop a tolerance?

p.s. The only way I can think of to kill Wolverine is hitting him with enough energy to obliterate his cells.

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@vampireselektor: There's no guarantee it would either. Nemesis could make them so they were compatible to his system and therefore won't reject them. As far as the story goes, Cyclops had Dr. Nemesis make them and they shut down the healing factor completely. Wolverine in turn got bit by the vampires and the doctors said his HF was completely gone and he was a vampire until Cyclops pressed a pretty little button that turned his healing factor back on and he returned to normal. The nanite subject was never touched upon after that, so Nemesis could have made them temporary and they ran their course after the first turn off and on or his immune system managed to get rid of them over time once his HF was restored. Regardless, my point still stands and it's a valid way they could have done to kill him.

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@vampireselektor: haha I'll take your word for it. You seem to know more about it than me.

Theres to be some way he could die. What If you ripped all the organic tissue from his adamantium skeleton that could kill him right? I feel like there's got to be some organic material left for him to regenerate.

That's the problem. He is ridiculously hard to kill. He's had his arteries cut, his throat ripped out and thrown into a body of water for a good amount of time before eventually healing and climbing onto a ship (which is a good argument against the drowning). He's mentioned that if he drowns, he will just be in a state of limbo. He will drown, die, heal, and come back. It's just a vicious circle for him. He's been eviscerated. He's had his heart blown up in his chest. He's had other organs removed. He's been incinerated down to a skeleton about 2-3 times. He's been gassed to no avail. If you read Wolverine 32, it gets even more ridiculous. The Nazi's tried spending weeks on killing him. This was before his adamantium, btw. They've put bullets through his lungs, heart, skull and then stabbed him repeatedly with bayonets and then thrown into the oven only to come back later. They even made mention they even decapitated him (which is supposedly one way to kill him) and he came back again and again.

It really seems to the only real way to kill him is completely shut down his healing factor. So the muramasa blade, carbonadium etc are poisonous to him. And Cyclops, in order to get the vampires in a good position, Trojan horsed Wolverine with nanites that shut down his healing factor. So if someone were to kill him then, then he wouldn't come back.

There's no guarantee that Wolverine's immune system won't eliminate the nanites.

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I haven't completely kept up with AoU, so forgive me on my ignorance if I am wrong, but maybe people are overlooking the fact it was an alternate Wolverine, so the powers may not be exactly the same. I know AoU Luke Cage tanked a nuke and slapped around She-Hulk when 616 Luke Cage shouldn't be able to do either. And Wolverine does seem a bit hindered in the book. IIRC, his leg was burnt and he fell into a coma to heal for 5 days. Soooo, yeah.

That would be the most logical thing because there have been just too many misconceptions.But if that is just an alternate story or that's just a vision or a dream it would be good.But if that is actually true then Bendis is showing us some real s#@t!

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I haven't completely kept up with AoU, so forgive me on my ignorance if I am wrong, but maybe people are overlooking the fact it was an alternate Wolverine, so the powers may not be exactly the same. I know AoU Luke Cage tanked a nuke and slapped around She-Hulk when 616 Luke Cage shouldn't be able to do either. And Wolverine does seem a bit hindered in the book. IIRC, his leg was burnt and he fell into a coma to heal for 5 days. Soooo, yeah.

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He recently killed himself, his time duplicate, no water around. They just showed it off panel, it was a mutual understanding as well, so he knows how to kill himself...not sure HOW he knows this if he has never been able to test the theory out, i am curious what he did.

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@extremis said:

@vampireselektor: haha I'll take your word for it. You seem to know more about it than me.

Theres to be some way he could die. What If you ripped all the organic tissue from his adamantium skeleton that could kill him right? I feel like there's got to be some organic material left for him to regenerate.

That's the problem. He is ridiculously hard to kill. He's had his arteries cut, his throat ripped out and thrown into a body of water for a good amount of time before eventually healing and climbing onto a ship (which is a good argument against the drowning). He's mentioned that if he drowns, he will just be in a state of limbo. He will drown, die, heal, and come back. It's just a vicious circle for him. He's been eviscerated. He's had his heart blown up in his chest. He's had other organs removed. He's been incinerated down to a skeleton about 2-3 times. He's been gassed to no avail. If you read Wolverine 32, it gets even more ridiculous. The Nazi's tried spending weeks on killing him. This was before his adamantium, btw. They've put bullets through his lungs, heart, skull and then stabbed him repeatedly with bayonets and then thrown into the oven only to come back later. They even made mention they even decapitated him (which is supposedly one way to kill him) and he came back again and again.

It really seems to the only real way to kill him is completely shut down his healing factor. So the muramasa blade, carbonadium etc are poisonous to him. And Cyclops, in order to get the vampires in a good position, Trojan horsed Wolverine with nanites that shut down his healing factor. So if someone were to kill him then, then he wouldn't come back.

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@vampireselektor: haha I'll take your word for it. You seem to know more about it than me.

Theres to be some way he could die. What If you ripped all the organic tissue from his adamantium skeleton that could kill him right? I feel like there's got to be some organic material left for him to regenerate.

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@extremis: I'm saying decapitation probably won't kill Wolverine. Remember the Xavier Protocols? Xavier planned to decapitate Wolverine and separate his head from his shoulders. The Protocols were created when Wolverine didn't have an adamantium skeleton, though. The adamantium would usually protect Wolverine's skeleton, meaning his head can't be separated from his shoulders. Ultimate Wolverine wasn't as well-protected, but that's another story.

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@extremis: Wouldn't Wolverine's spinal cord get in the way of him cutting his head off? His attackers wouldn't be able to separate his head from his shoulders, no? The adamantium would hold his skeleton in place.

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He could piss off Superman.

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They could go the route that X-23 was aiming for when she first crossed paths with him. She kept slicing up his main arteries so that he bled out more than his healing factor could keep up.

Granted, considering everything else that's happened (I am talking about writers here) it would be one way that could somewhat stick with continuity and be possible considering the environment they are in.

(FYI -- Daken's death was stupid)

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That's what I asked myself when I read Age of Ultron #9.How the hell did Wolverine kill Wolverine?Because there was no water near them and Bendis wasn't able to try Remender's logic on things and Wolverine can't possibly pierce the other Wolverine's hands and limbs.

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@god_spawn: Yeah I knew there was something iffy about that.All of Logan's enemies would have drowned him from day 1 than. There are rumors that Logan is going to die next year, so maybe were going to find out. Also about Daken is dead, but the twins brought him back. Remender said he would explain how each of them came back too

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@godtriggerhulk said:

Maybe adamantium can pierce adamantium?

It can't.

Edit: The adamantine claws were for X-Treme X-Men Wolverine, my mistake.

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@thundergodswrath: @frogdog:

Drowning is only a temporary death if he isn't permanently submerged. Logan's stated the healing factor would keep him in a limbo of sorts if he was put under water. So he dies, revives. Dies. Revives. It's just a big circle at least until he fully dies IIRC via his HF eventually taxing if drowning actually does tax it, despite the properties that come with the drowning like lungs filling with water, etc. Aside from his statements before, he's had his throat ripped out before and thrown in a lake for a good amount of time and eventually came to and swam out. And I do believe there are other instances of people trying to drown him and it not working. So it isn't a permanent death without certain circumstances and if Remender made it so on Daken just permanently dies from a puddle, since he's coming back in July as a Horseman of Apocalypse or something like that, it is nothing but a simple screw up on Remender's part.

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Maybe adamantium can pierce adamantium?

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They probably had sex together.

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@jedixman said:

Suffocation.

I think stabbing himself through the eyes or ears might do it, but I'm not positive.

I don't think the stabbing would work simply because he has taken a gun shot to the eye before and actually later talks about the bullet bouncing around inside his skull. I'm aware that the claw is different in size, but I'd think the same would apply if he's able to recover from the bullet which has greater penetration since it isn't stopped by the eye socket.

I stand by you with suffocation though. Drowning or suffocation would be my go to and if two versions of Wolverine are fighting I don't find it ridiculous that one could choke out the other and hold him until he is completely sure of death.

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These guys seem to have some pretty good suggestions. Great movie BTW.

But in all honesty, he could guillotine himself with an adamantium guillotine.

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Maybe drag out the adamantium and then cut him up with it.

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Throwing himself head first off a cliff while in a suit filled with water.

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@norrinboltagonprime21: yep chopping his head off.

If you wanted to be sure you could completely dismember him as well, stuff the remains with dynamite and blow them to smithereens. Then you could gather them, burn them to ash and flush the ashes down 100 separate toilets. Only way to be sure...

.....And you gather those 100 separate ash piles and blast each one off into a random planet in space far away from each other.......

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@jonsmith said:

Uh, guys? The OP isn't asking how Wolverine can kill himself, given x, y, and z. He's referring to the situation in Age of Ultron:

Wolverine and Alternate Timeline Wolverine are in a cave, and one of them is going to kill the other to stop any complicated paradoxes from persisting. They are in a cave, all they've got is their claws and the surrounding rocks. The dude's asking how Wolverine managed to kill the other him in that situation.

Oooooh.

I stand by my statement, though:

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Suffocation.

I think stabbing himself through the eyes or ears might do it, but I'm not positive.

That's really the only method I can think of.

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Uh, guys? The OP isn't asking how Wolverine can kill himself, given x, y, and z. He's referring to the situation in Age of Ultron:

Wolverine and Alternate Timeline Wolverine are in a cave, and one of them is going to kill the other to stop any complicated paradoxes from persisting. They are in a cave, all they've got is their claws and the surrounding rocks. The dude's asking how Wolverine managed to kill the other him in that situation.

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Suffocation.

I think stabbing himself through the eyes or ears might do it, but I'm not positive.

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@norrinboltagonprime21: yep chopping his head off.

If you wanted to be sure you could completely dismember him as well, stuff the remains with dynamite and blow them to smithereens. Then you could gather them, burn them to ash and flush the ashes down 100 separate toilets. Only way to be sure...

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