Mildor

@Illuminatus:

Why not? Magneto isn't immune to the effects. Sure, he may be able to counter them handily, but it's not like Vulcan is barred from using those abilities on him or something.

Sure is not, but the sole argument that Vulcan could use this force like the cause of his demise will throw out his historic background about the embodiment of this force because of this It doesnt see it remotely acceptable.

Magic ContextNever has he once manipulated mistic energies....

He cant wield magic, but also the Magic holders cannot play cheap against him. ( N'astirha a demon of great magical skills and master manipulator (of similar origins as Mephisto) don´t hesitate to make war to anyone who stand against him, heroes and supervillains for equal, however he approach Magneto in attempt to form and alliance.)

(Magneto is father of the scarlet witch you now what level she is in magic he has experience how to deal with her, he has fought Dr Strange the sorcerer supreme) There are no misteries that magic force has kept from Magneto. There is more space in the omniverse that is ruled by the universal forces then by Magic forces. When magic is invoked in a realm runned by the universal forces; mistic energies need to pay the fee to manifest and acomplish the objetive of the caster.

as I recall Vulcan does not wield magic but deal against Magic holders by absortion.

What´s stop Vulcan Tk Magnetos throat, knocking his helmet, play with his mind,brain off, overload his shields,or take Magnetos energy

The same factor that makes Magneto withstand a direct hit from Galactus or Phoenix

The same will that Professor X cannot control and the White Queen recognize about the strongest mind she cannot mess with.

His great magnetic force field cannot be overloaded, you cannot enter to his personal space without his consent due to his raw will

Magnetos body is fueled by the electromagnetic energy his body create along with energy he could absorb from the enviroment makes him a battery without end but the most imposible thing to accept is that he would permitt himself catch in a situation where his energies could be absorbed by Vulcan and allow it.

@Illuminatus: Vulcan could not be able to use the electromagnetism against Magneto(please see the post above your first comment). Magneto as stated in previous comments has fought against Dr Strange and came out well from the encounter; magic it is not a disadvantage to Magneto but merely another energy that can be dealed with his universal power. Vulcan could use other energies and or the ones in the electromagnetic spectre but again Magneto wields it to. Magneto will deal with this young raw power-stamina mutant in a similar way as he did with Joseph.

Mr M is a omega level mutant and that is because he is limited by his human boundaries otherwise he would be cosmic level since long time ago. But might not take to much before he exceed his human limits due to his unlimited possiblities since he embodies a universal force that in real life we don’t know its extensions only that is a law that is everywhere is infinite & conform the reality of existence

Vulcan can manipulate all the sources of energy he wants, but don´t thing Magneto would allowed Vulcan use the electromagnetism source in his presence for too long nor the idea to use against him.

I see this fight similar to the one he had against Joseph a younger version of himself with apparently more raw power & stamina than Mags.

Joseph got beated by Magneto as a child who has raise the hand against his father.

The old man will not tolerate disrespect . Magnus will block the particles of energy in the area, he saw could be in Vulcan advantage then he will probably let Vulcan exhaust his vast energy against his disruptor force & magnetic field. Then Magneto will let his magnetic force go inward in addition (IF he see it necessary) . Whatever amount he could canalize from the environment charging himself in a molecular level this will feed each cell of his body making a paradox because he will be establishing as a self-sufficient system since he will create a infinite input to himself so his output will never run out. His body will now be in constant stamina replenishment, his strength will be increase to rival directly the ones like Hulk, Sentry Blue Marvel, he know could teach his son how to move faster in space but he don’t see Vulcan anymore by not measuring his power he has desintegratred Vulcan this was not his intention he can unify again the particles that conform Vulcans body but he cannot put his soul back so he thinks

I should visit Death, Magneto knows that Death manifest physical when she is with Thanos . Magnus didn’t realize he was outerspace for his surprise he was thinking & reflecting comfortably without the need of his Magnetic Force Field; he doesn’t need to breathe in outerspace nor feed or sleep in regular ways anymore since the electromagnetic energy allows him to live.

He goes to Uatu in the blue side of the moon and question him from Thanos . Uatu see that the human he knows as Magneto has been changed he has immense power but also see something that Magneto hasn’t relize yet he seems younger. Uatu comprehend that Mags embodiment of the Universal Force has discover inmortality…

Doom cannot afford to play Magneto game and think he can overwhelm him or maintain the upper hand for long with the purpose of suceed.Is as if we stated that Doom can defeat Dr Strange in Magic. By this I refer that Doom could posible nullify by a mechanism in his armor or other sorts the magnetic force Mags could exercise over him, but not for long . We are moving away about the basics and obvious. We´re granting to much to Dr Doom and if so it could be the same with Magnus.

Someone previously said that Doom can think faster than Mags. But even been the more inteligent in the world is a mere Human against some one whos body emanate magnetism who can carry electric currents in his brain faster because of his ability

Also Doom master in several scientific fields plus the magic. Magneto has played God almost the same times as the High Evolutionary, has created life & mechanism that grant power to humans, take the power from the mutants except himself. Along Avalon asteroid M etc. So in this aspect Magneto it is not below Dr Doom but at least equals.(Maybe Doom could ask gently to Mags for a bit of power)

Also stated that with preparation time Doom could defeat Magneto. So Magneto doesnt prepare to?

Also tell that Doom would have contengy plans, you think that Magnus dont know Dr Doom you think that Mags will not have contengy plans?

Dr Doom has no sort of physical energy or mechanism that can put in peril Magneto face to face. Dr Doom has magic, but Magneto has previously fight against Dr Strange and Mags come off well of the encounter(I think we underestimate the universal force that Mags wields and suppose that because of mistic origins magic cannot be touched or faced by the universal ones) This is the only offensive treat that Doom have but again Doom is second inthis force and Mags have faced the sorcerer supreme. So no Doom Advantage here just a mighty fight

Doom is slave of his urgent necesity of steal other powers almost as if he had inferiority complex to stole other one powers because he cannot achieved by his body itself.

Mags is implused by a cause he want to shape the world as he sees fit but he doesnt search for raw power maybe because he dont need it or its not the way to achieved his goals. In fact he had reject it (see Collective- Xorn-Magneto)

Really the only way that Dr Doom could defeat Mags frequently is because is the favorite villain of stan lee ergo is a rule that need to follows any writer that want to stablished a history.