Methos

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Complaints...

Ok, this is basically in response to Final Arrow and Mistress Redhead's blogs...

Now, while i do agree with some of their points and disagree with some others, i do have to stress first of all that i have seen the site change a lot lately as well. As Final Arrow commented, the site lately has had it's share of problems because of several people making the site uncomforatble for others to be here....

now, after reading that you will as "Why aren't the mods doing anything about it then?", so here's my response...

WE ARE!!!


We can't be here 24 / 7...  we do all have lives and stuff in real life to get on with...

when we are on, and we notice something kicking on, we do step in and deal with it...

the problem is that a lot of the stuff kicks off when we are not around, and then when we do come on we get a dozen or more complaints about why we weren't here or why we didn't do anything about it... basically, we can't be here 24 / 7 and if something does kick off when we aren't here, we need a link to it so that we can go and deal with it in a timely fashion, if not it will just be left there without any reprisal for their actions.

Another thing that pisses me off is that people never understand how much crap we actually get here...

i mean, on any given day, any mod will recieve 10 or more PM's from people... the majority of these are abuse from people for locking threads or denying their submissions... and to put it bluntly, we're sick of it... the amount of b!tching and complaining on the site has reached a stupid level. People complain about a user, the user complains about them. and then they get their friends to complain about it... and it just goes on and on, and soon the mod in question has a stupid amount of PM's from both people involved, and normally it's filled with profanity and missspelled accusations ending up in the PM just being deleted.

Now, if anyone has a valid complaint about a user on ComicVine and the mods haven't been around to deal with it, just follow these simple steps...

1. Does it require a mod to take care of it or can you deal with it yourself?

if you can deal with it yourself, then do so... all the mods here have enough work to do as it is without dealing with 'he said / she said' crap

2. if it can't be sorted out by the users, or it's a seriously problem...

PM a mod... there are enough of us here and we're always willing to listen to complaints.

make sure the complaint is valid and well thought out, use links and quotes to actually make your point and list what has happened.

if we look into it and actually find out that the person who complained to us was the one that actually started the problem in the threads, then we will deal with you as harshly as you wanted us to deal with the other person.

ok, here's what we don't want...


1. we don't want PM's filled with profanity or b!tching about a certain user... that is a quick way to get the PM deleted or ignored
2. we don't want 'he said / she said' bullsh!t... make sure you use valid quotes and links in the PM so we can actually locate the problem and deal with it.
3. we don't want you to get a list of people just to complain about one user... we don't need that BS... just use your common sense and deal with it sensebly.

now i've got my stuff out of the way, i'll deal with stuff that has been commented on in other blogs...


Over the last year some of it for worse some for better people seem taken aback to speak their minds or express certain view without people coming down on them from above like the hand of god it’s self trying to say things when them their selves have done no different.

ok, the way i read this is that you feel that people are being censored on the vine without good reason?

i can't guess any more than that without a link to the problem and what caused it to be censored...

it does seem that certain people want some things to be censored but not others, or they want some people censored for expressing views that differ to their own but can't stand it when they are censored..

now, i do agree that everyone has their right to free speech and to have their point made... the problem is that some views are views that are deliberately made to annoy certain people or to incense an argument... these are the views that will get censored immidiately, no matter who made them.

if you're making a point just to start an argument or just to make someone feel unwelcome here, expect to have it censored, deleted, locked... whatever... the vine is not here for your personal b!tching ground.

The vine HAS changed and I cant help but wonder why where are the mods they always seem caught up on the Wiki queue or have no powers to do something on the threads. And if we follow protocol and speak to Admin we are hit with a stone wall.

ok. This i will comment on...

I'm always on the vine... i'm about on most threads and am always willing to come into any thread and help out anyone, while i can't speak for every mod out there, i can say that most of them, if not all of them, are always willing to listen to people and help them out on the site.

we now have 8 mods with Forum Moderating powers, so i don't understand where the complaint about us never being on the forums is coming from... i'm on the forums as much as i can be... but again, i can't be everywhere, so i do need people to PM me with any complaints they have about users or other things...

now i don't want to drag this blog out, but the point is, if you actually have a problem with something on the vine, make a point of changing it yourself...

the main complaint i have seen from users is that the vine has changed lately and they don't like how certain users are acting to others...

well, stand up to the people that are acting like that then, if they don't listen to you or get abusive towards you, PM me with a quote and link and i'll come in and deal with it.

other wise, the vine forums are what you all make of them, treat others as you expect to be treated and everyone should get on fine

M
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