Generation Hope #12 Preview

“HALF AS BRIGHT”

The smoke clears over Utopia. Schism is over. But there's little time for celebrations and little to actually celebrate. Who leaves? Who stays? Who joins? Who kisses who? The fallout will rupture the tightest group on the X-Side of the Marvel Universe.

45 Comments
45 Comments
Posted by xerox_kitty

Oh dear God, Pixie is WELSH fer crying out loud!  It's bad enough that she spoke like a flipping 1980's Valley-Girl, but the wannabe Peckham council estate is absolutely atrocious!  
 
Every time I'm even remotely curious to see if this series has improved, I'm constantly reminded of how bad it is.  So bad it actually makes me feel angry!
Posted by papad1992
@xerox_kitty said:
Oh dear God, Pixie is WELSH fer crying out loud!  It's bad enough that she spoke like a flipping 1980's Valley-Girl, but the wannabe Peckham council estate is absolutely atrocious!   Every time I'm even remotely curious to see if this series has improved, I'm constantly reminded of how bad it is.  So bad it actually makes me feel angry!

Haha next they'll have her fall in love with Velocidad or whatever his name... I dont follow the series so I hope that's not gonna happen!!! It's not gonna happen right!? PLEASE SAY IT ISN'T SO!!
Posted by jordama

Pixie is such an addict. First they were all huffin pixie dust and now she is hooked on pain meds.

And the art is definitely not my favorite.

Posted by RainEffect
Horrible cover. Horrible art. Horrible dialogue. 
 
Even my Hope fanboy-ism won't motivate me to pick this up. If anything, it will keep me away.
Posted by BKole

So, I'm in the minority here. I know Pixie is Welsh, but Slang is Slang. It spreads like a horrible little memetic virus. Mind you, Munted hasn't been in dialect around here for...well, probably the better part of a year, maybe longer.

Well Lush, however, I think was made popular in Wales by Gavin and Stacy so...Gillen watches too much GOLD?

Posted by xerox_kitty

@BKole said:

Well Lush, however, I think was made popular in Wales by Gavin and Stacy so...Gillen watches too much GOLD?

Ha ha! I think you've hit the nail on the head! ;)

Posted by DjBest02

@papad1992 said:

@xerox_kitty said:
Oh dear God, Pixie is WELSH fer crying out loud! It's bad enough that she spoke like a flipping 1980's Valley-Girl, but the wannabe Peckham council estate is absolutely atrocious! Every time I'm even remotely curious to see if this series has improved, I'm constantly reminded of how bad it is. So bad it actually makes me feel angry!
Haha next they'll have her fall in love with Velocidad or whatever his name... I dont follow the series so I hope that's not gonna happen!!! It's not gonna happen right!? PLEASE SAY IT ISN'T SO!!

Apparently thats whats gonna happen. Pixie and Velocidad are gonna make out and Hope catches them. I found a pic. but I dnt know if I can post it.

Posted by Mercy_

@DjBest02 said:

@papad1992 said:

@xerox_kitty said:
Oh dear God, Pixie is WELSH fer crying out loud! It's bad enough that she spoke like a flipping 1980's Valley-Girl, but the wannabe Peckham council estate is absolutely atrocious! Every time I'm even remotely curious to see if this series has improved, I'm constantly reminded of how bad it is. So bad it actually makes me feel angry!
Haha next they'll have her fall in love with Velocidad or whatever his name... I dont follow the series so I hope that's not gonna happen!!! It's not gonna happen right!? PLEASE SAY IT ISN'T SO!!

Apparently thats whats gonna happen. Pixie and Velocidad are gonna make out and Hope catches them. I found a pic. but I dnt know if I can post it.

I've read the issue. I'll post the scans once the image uploader is working again. That's not exactly what happens.

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Posted by DjBest02

@The Dark Huntress said:

@DjBest02 said:

@papad1992 said:

@xerox_kitty said:
Oh dear God, Pixie is WELSH fer crying out loud! It's bad enough that she spoke like a flipping 1980's Valley-Girl, but the wannabe Peckham council estate is absolutely atrocious! Every time I'm even remotely curious to see if this series has improved, I'm constantly reminded of how bad it is. So bad it actually makes me feel angry!
Haha next they'll have her fall in love with Velocidad or whatever his name... I dont follow the series so I hope that's not gonna happen!!! It's not gonna happen right!? PLEASE SAY IT ISN'T SO!!

Apparently thats whats gonna happen. Pixie and Velocidad are gonna make out and Hope catches them. I found a pic. but I dnt know if I can post it.

I've read the issue. I'll post the scans once the image uploader is working again. That's not exactly what happens.

Ohh ok. Is this in the issue?? what happens next?

Posted by Mercy_

@DjBest02: Yeah, it is. It's not so much what happens next that's important, as what happens after that.

Pixie and Hope basically come to an understanding when Hope practically begs Pixie to stay on Utopia instead of go to Westchester with Wolverine. It was actually a really nice scene.

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Posted by xerox_kitty

Why would Hope need to Pixie to stay? She's already Cyclops' little go-to teleporter (as the other New X-Men kids pointed out in ReGenesis). If anything, Cyclops is using Pixie's crush on him as a means to control her... Hope wouldn't need to be involved in Pixie's decision to stay on Utopia.

Posted by jordama

@xerox_kitty said:

Why would Hope need to Pixie to stay? She's already Cyclops' little go-to teleporter (as the other New X-Men kids pointed out in ReGenesis). If anything, Cyclops is using Pixie's crush on him as a means to control her... Hope wouldn't need to be involved in Pixie's decision to stay on Utopia.

She had originally planned to leave and go back to the school with her friends though. Hope played the "New lights could end up like Zero and Zeeshan" card

Posted by DjBest02

@jordama said:

@xerox_kitty said:

Why would Hope need to Pixie to stay? She's already Cyclops' little go-to teleporter (as the other New X-Men kids pointed out in ReGenesis). If anything, Cyclops is using Pixie's crush on him as a means to control her... Hope wouldn't need to be involved in Pixie's decision to stay on Utopia.

She had originally planned to leave and go back to the school with her friends though. Hope played the "New lights could end up like Zero and Zeeshan" card

Still, how can Pixie help in reaching New Lights? I mean I think she's a cool character and she's one of my faves, but I don't think she can have any type of influence in New Lights. maybe she'll be Hope's teleporter?

Posted by Mercy_

@DjBest02 said:

maybe she'll be Hope's teleporter?

This was pretty much the whole basis of the argument. One sec and I'll grab my issue for you. Don't have a scanner, but I'll relay the dialogue.

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Posted by Mercy_

Hope: "Hey."

Pixie: "I didn't know, Hope! I just didn't know! I don't break girly-code. I..."

H: "It's not about that. A lot of the old students are leaving. To go back to Westchester with Wolverine. Are you?"

P: "I was planning to..."

H: "Don't go. We're a rescue team. When a new mutant emerges they're all kinds of messed up. Their powers go mad. When I touch them, they stabilize. The longer we take, the more chance is that something goes wrong. And you're a teleporter..."

P: "I don't know..."

H: The last mutant who emerged killed himself before we could get him. He thought he was becoming a freak. But really, he had no idea what he was becoming. We'll never know. We failed him. We need to be better. We need to be quicker. We need... Please, Megan. Help us be better."

P: "Won't it be awkward?"

H: "It's not like we were serious."

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Posted by xerox_kitty

@The Dark Huntress said:

Hope: "Hey."

Pixie: "I didn't know, Hope! I just didn't know! I don't break girly-code. I..."

H: "It's not about that. A lot of the old students are leaving. To go back to Westchester with Wolverine. Are you?"

P: "I was planning to..."

H: "Don't go. We're a rescue team. When a new mutant emerges they're all kinds of messed up. Their powers go mad. When I touch them, they stabilize. The longer we take, the more chance is that something goes wrong. And you're a teleporter..."

P: "I don't know..."

H: The last mutant who emerged killed himself before we could get him. He thought he was becoming a freak. But really, he had no idea what he was becoming. We'll never know. We failed him. We need to be better. We need to be quicker. We need... Please, Megan. Help us be better."

P: "Won't it be awkward?"

H: "It's not like we were serious."

Did they really need to justify this? Cyclops could have assigned her just as easily. And with Illyana, it's not as if they have to rely on just Pixie.

Personally, I'm just disappointed that they're still playing this "Hope has to be there to finalise their powers" angle. Its a lame twist to keep the mutant population from getting out of hand. But with a couple of hundred mutants running around, I find it hard to believe that they're all practising safe sex... why not just breed a few more muties? It'd make Hope redundant ;)

Posted by Mercy_

@xerox_kitty said:

@The Dark Huntress said:

Hope: "Hey."

Pixie: "I didn't know, Hope! I just didn't know! I don't break girly-code. I..."

H: "It's not about that. A lot of the old students are leaving. To go back to Westchester with Wolverine. Are you?"

P: "I was planning to..."

H: "Don't go. We're a rescue team. When a new mutant emerges they're all kinds of messed up. Their powers go mad. When I touch them, they stabilize. The longer we take, the more chance is that something goes wrong. And you're a teleporter..."

P: "I don't know..."

H: The last mutant who emerged killed himself before we could get him. He thought he was becoming a freak. But really, he had no idea what he was becoming. We'll never know. We failed him. We need to be better. We need to be quicker. We need... Please, Megan. Help us be better."

P: "Won't it be awkward?"

H: "It's not like we were serious."

Did they really need to justify this? Cyclops could have assigned her just as easily. And with Illyana, it's not as if they have to rely on just Pixie.

Personally, I'm just disappointed that they're still playing this "Hope has to be there to finalise their powers" angle. Its a lame twist to keep the mutant population from getting out of hand. But with a couple of hundred mutants running around, I find it hard to believe that they're all practising safe sex... why not just breed a few more muties? It'd make Hope redundant ;)

I think it was perhaps meant more to build solidarity between the two of them and show that they weren't going to turn the Gabriel incident into a soap opera as much as they used it to justify Pixie staying.

This issue was very much (IMO) about Hope's humanity and how she is not infallible. There was actually a scene between her and Laurie that I absolutely loved. It was the most human and most likable that she's been written (other than that issue of Uncanny with her and Wolverine) since she and Cable came back to the present.

Hope is getting to be quite a bit redundant, though. They're falling into bad plots with her and she's been subject to some pretty bad characterization. I just hope (pun not intended) that they start writing her more like they did in this issue. I'm interesting to see how the new writer's going to handle her.

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Posted by DjBest02

haha, girly-code. Cool, so now Pixie is part of their team and going to date Gabriel?

Posted by Mercy_

@DjBest02 said:

haha, girly-code. Cool, so now Pixie is part of their team and going to date Gabriel?

Nope. I think that the Gabriel thing was a one time thing.

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Posted by jordama

@The Dark Huntress said:

@DjBest02 said:

haha, girly-code. Cool, so now Pixie is part of their team and going to date Gabriel?

Nope. I think that the Gabriel thing was a one time thing.

No lovin from anyone for Gabriel

I just hope (pun not intended) that they start writing her more like they did in this issue
Posted by lykopis

Just read it. That ending....eep!

Posted by Daycrawler

Issue 12 and the entire series of Gen X has rocked so far IMO. Good balance of action and humour. Issue 12 was excellent. Pixie being on the team makes a lot of sense to me and I can't say I mind the slang that she's been using. Okay, so maybe it's not 100% accurate with regards to being Welsh, but it's at least an attempt and one that's not too far off. Least Gillen hasn't got her like some people write Gambit - "Dat some bad medicine dere cherie" - THAT is hugely annoying! Can put up with the odd 'munted' or 'tidy' here or there in comparison.

Posted by papad1992

@Daycrawler said:

Issue 12 and the entire series of Gen X has rocked so far IMO. Good balance of action and humour. Issue 12 was excellent. Pixie being on the team makes a lot of sense to me and I can't say I mind the slang that she's been using. Okay, so maybe it's not 100% accurate with regards to being Welsh, but it's at least an attempt and one that's not too far off. Least Gillen hasn't got her like some people write Gambit - "Dat some bad medicine dere cherie" - THAT is hugely annoying! Can put up with the odd 'munted' or 'tidy' here or there in comparison.

Wait Pixie is apart of the Gen Hope team now.... I don't read the issues but I like to stay up to date!! So is really apart of the team? Kind of odd, I think!!

Posted by Mercy_

@papad1992 said:

@Daycrawler said:

Issue 12 and the entire series of Gen X has rocked so far IMO. Good balance of action and humour. Issue 12 was excellent. Pixie being on the team makes a lot of sense to me and I can't say I mind the slang that she's been using. Okay, so maybe it's not 100% accurate with regards to being Welsh, but it's at least an attempt and one that's not too far off. Least Gillen hasn't got her like some people write Gambit - "Dat some bad medicine dere cherie" - THAT is hugely annoying! Can put up with the odd 'munted' or 'tidy' here or there in comparison.

Wait Pixie is apart of the Gen Hope team now.... I don't read the issues but I like to stay up to date!! So is really apart of the team? Kind of odd, I think!!

I don't think she's an official part of the team, at all.

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Posted by papad1992

@The Dark Huntress said:

@papad1992 said:

@Daycrawler said:

Issue 12 and the entire series of Gen X has rocked so far IMO. Good balance of action and humour. Issue 12 was excellent. Pixie being on the team makes a lot of sense to me and I can't say I mind the slang that she's been using. Okay, so maybe it's not 100% accurate with regards to being Welsh, but it's at least an attempt and one that's not too far off. Least Gillen hasn't got her like some people write Gambit - "Dat some bad medicine dere cherie" - THAT is hugely annoying! Can put up with the odd 'munted' or 'tidy' here or there in comparison.

Wait Pixie is apart of the Gen Hope team now.... I don't read the issues but I like to stay up to date!! So is really apart of the team? Kind of odd, I think!!

I don't think she's an official part of the team, at all.

Good because she would make a weird addition!! She should stay relevant with her classmates she schooled with.... not these five newbies!!

Posted by Mercy_

@papad1992: I agree. I actually think that Schism drew a lot of parallels between the two teams (New X-Men and Five Lights) and set the older ones up in a good position to play mentor.

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Edited by lykopis

Found this in the Boom Boom thread.

Posted by papad1992

@The Dark Huntress said:

@papad1992: I agree. I actually think that Schism drew a lot of parallels between the two teams (New X-Men and Five Lights) and set the older ones up in a good position to play mentor.

Which is why I'll be reading mostly "Blue Team" comics (X-Force, X-Factor, X-Men Legacy, Wolvie and the X-Men) that side seems much more creative, new and fresh!! I love how most of the X-Students went with Logan!! (Mercury, Dust, Anole, Rockslide, Bling, Trance...) But Surge, Prodigy, Armor, Hellion, Gentle... r staying with Scott!!!! While Loa, Pixie, and Elixir are unconfirmed!!!

Posted by Mercy_
@papad1992 Agreed
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Posted by papad1992

@lykopis said:

Found this in the Boom Boom thread.

Is it Gen Hope team vs the X-Men??? They r gonna get their mutated butts kicked off that cliff and into the water!! Pixie should just teleport away now!! I like how Dazzler lost her crotch star costume for something more.... civilian!!

Posted by papad1992

@The Dark Huntress said:

@DjBest02: Yeah, it is. It's not so much what happens next that's important, as what happens after that.

Pixie and Hope basically come to an understanding when Hope practically begs Pixie to stay on Utopia instead of go to Westchester with Wolverine. It was actually a really nice scene.

I just read ur comment on Pixies situation!! So she wanted to go back with her friends but was told by Hope to stay!!! Why would she listen to Hope...

Posted by lykopis

@papad1992: I think that's Boom Boom (but then again, I think its Dazzler too). Crap - just realized the photo has a watermark on it. Sorry, I didn't notice it before I posted it.

Would you believe the battle in the preview panels show different? lol

Posted by papad1992

@lykopis said:

@papad1992: I think that's Boom Boom (but then again, I think its Dazzler too). Crap - just realized the photo has a watermark on it. Sorry, I didn't notice it before I posted it.

Would you believe the battle in the preview panels show different? lol

I thought it was Dazzler instead of Boom Boom because Dazzler has closer ties to the actual X-Men than Boom Boom!! BTW where is Boom Boom!?? Assuming that that is Dazzler in the picture, which Im pretty sure it is!!

Posted by lykopis

@papad1992 said:

Is it Gen Hope team vs the X-Men??? They r gonna get their mutated butts kicked off that cliff and into the water!! Pixie should just teleport away now!! I like how Dazzler lost her crotch star costume for something more.... civilian!!

But here you go, lol!

Posted by Mercy_
@papad1992 No. She wasn't told by Hope. She was planning on going with Wolverine and was pretty much begged by Hope to stay and she did. It was completely up to her.

@lykopis Is that Martha Johansson that Kenji's holding?
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Posted by lykopis

@The Dark Huntress: Yep. Sure is. :)

Posted by Mercy_
@lykopis Love her!
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Posted by lykopis

@The Dark Huntress said:

@lykopis Love her!

Yep. It's characters like her that make me believe that Marvel has a future.

Posted by papad1992

@lykopis said:

@papad1992 said:

Is it Gen Hope team vs the X-Men??? They r gonna get their mutated butts kicked off that cliff and into the water!! Pixie should just teleport away now!! I like how Dazzler lost her crotch star costume for something more.... civilian!!

But here you go, lol!

Well No-Girl really can't go anywhere so I guess she's staying on Utopia!! And why is Pixie doing a Magik move?? Magik always did the teleporting from the ground up with her hands in the air, while Pixir just teleported with a pink aura around her and whoever else she's carrying... Me Confused!!!

Edited by lykopis

@papad1992: So many changes my friend...so many. Confusion is the "in thing" now when it comes to Schism, dontcha know? :)

Posted by TheOlympian

@papad1992: yeah... no, i think Generation Hope has this fight.

Posted by papad1992

@lykopis said:

@papad1992: So many changes my friend...so many. Confusion is the "in thing" now when it comes to Schism, dontcha know? :)

Yeah but hopefully that will change!!

Posted by papad1992

@TheOlympian said:

@papad1992: yeah... no, i think Generation Hope has this fight.

Oh wow... Who knew!??

Posted by Daycrawler

@papad1992 said:

@The Dark Huntress said:

@papad1992 said:

@Daycrawler said:

Issue 12 and the entire series of Gen X has rocked so far IMO. Good balance of action and humour. Issue 12 was excellent. Pixie being on the team makes a lot of sense to me and I can't say I mind the slang that she's been using. Okay, so maybe it's not 100% accurate with regards to being Welsh, but it's at least an attempt and one that's not too far off. Least Gillen hasn't got her like some people write Gambit - "Dat some bad medicine dere cherie" - THAT is hugely annoying! Can put up with the odd 'munted' or 'tidy' here or there in comparison.

Wait Pixie is apart of the Gen Hope team now.... I don't read the issues but I like to stay up to date!! So is really apart of the team? Kind of odd, I think!!

I don't think she's an official part of the team, at all.

Good because she would make a weird addition!! She should stay relevant with her classmates she schooled with.... not these five newbies!!

As far as I read it, Pixie is an official member of Hopes team now. She's basically their transport. Hope's reasoning being that her team need to get to new lights way quicker in order to avoid more tragedies like the one in Sheffield.

Posted by papad1992

@Daycrawler said:

@papad1992 said:

@The Dark Huntress said:

@papad1992 said:

@Daycrawler said:

Issue 12 and the entire series of Gen X has rocked so far IMO. Good balance of action and humour. Issue 12 was excellent. Pixie being on the team makes a lot of sense to me and I can't say I mind the slang that she's been using. Okay, so maybe it's not 100% accurate with regards to being Welsh, but it's at least an attempt and one that's not too far off. Least Gillen hasn't got her like some people write Gambit - "Dat some bad medicine dere cherie" - THAT is hugely annoying! Can put up with the odd 'munted' or 'tidy' here or there in comparison.

Wait Pixie is apart of the Gen Hope team now.... I don't read the issues but I like to stay up to date!! So is really apart of the team? Kind of odd, I think!!

I don't think she's an official part of the team, at all.

Good because she would make a weird addition!! She should stay relevant with her classmates she schooled with.... not these five newbies!!

As far as I read it, Pixie is an official member of Hopes team now. She's basically their transport. Hope's reasoning being that her team need to get to new lights way quicker in order to avoid more tragedies like the one in Sheffield.

Makes sense... get to them more quickly, more lives to live!! Good strategy on Hope's terms!!! But I feel like Pixie wouldn't stay if she wanted to... does she like Gabriel!?! If so, then that's definitely a reason to stay!!