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Rogue and Gambit because because “Ah can’t touch yuh, Remy!” got old really fast.

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UXM should be called Uncanny Brotherhood or something. Sabretooth? Mystique? they've already went through a "good guys" phase and it didn't work. This team needs more actual heroes like Rogue or Polaris.

I don't see All New lasting much with that premise and creative team. Extraordinary is the only book that interest me at the moment.

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@koays said:

Yea well I'm a Jean Grey fan and I'm officially bitching about her, timetravel and her taking Rachel's role on the team!

Maybe she'll be better without Bendis writing her, but right now she's an evil unlikeable little girl who won't go back to her time and is taking the spotlight from better characters!

Rachel is Life! Rachel is Love! Rachel is Justice!

...and Rachel is irrelevant!

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@avenger85: I was talking about the adult ones too and I agree they do have too much baggage but if a writer/editor wants them together just because they like the couple then they're gonna get together. It's just how comic books work, always going back to the old status quo. Wouldn't be the first time Jean died for an extended period of time and then comes back to reunite with Scott.

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@numi said:

I remember that... Wolverine stabbing her to keep her from killing Selene because "we don't kill" or some such hypocritical line.

I thought Wolverine stabbed her to avoid another dark phoenix episode.

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You can consider Adult Scott and Adult Jean permanently over lol. They will never get back together. If Adult Jean returns, Bendis might stick her with the GOTG or the Jean Grey School.

Never say never in comics...

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I think Rachel leaving the school after BOTA makes more sense than Kitty (who Bendis didn't want to share apparently). But like many said 616 cyclops is not her actual father and teen jean (if she's really from 616) is not her actual mother either.

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1. Like what? I can't think of many that couldn't have been just as interesting with Maddy instead.

2. That she was a clone of Jean was part of her story, that's all. Even if that wasn't Claremont's original intention with her, he totally sets up a mystery with her many connections to Jean right off the bat. But a character having a mysterious connection to another character (like being a clone) doesn't in itself make the new character less intriguing than the other.

She was no more lazy an idea than Polaris, Warpath, Siren, Mystique, Cable, X-23, etc.. That her mysterious connection is revealed to be that she's a clone need not have been the end of her being a great character in her own right, they just used that as an excuse to make her go crazy to sweep her out of the way for Jean.

But the way Jean was written after her return in the 80's is kind of more like how Maddy was written than how Jean had been in the 60's and 70's, so in a way Maddy had already replaced Jean. So, that they brought Jean back only to replace her own replacement, to me, just seems like a disservice to what was great about both characters.


1. Doesn't matter, we clearly have different opinions about this. I don't think Maddie could fulfill Jean's role as an x-man and vice versa, one is a clone of the other but they are not interchangeable.

2. Again, agree to disagree. I would be ok with it if Maddie was meant to be a clone from the get go but no, she's just a girl who came across cyclops in Alaska and happened to look just like his recently dead girlfriend....it was so contrived and made cyclops look like he wanted to be with her not because who she was but who she looked like. For the record I also didn't like what they did with her after Jean came back, the marvel universe is big enough for both of them to coexist but at least she was a badass villain.

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@goobot: Both of them share rights, one doesn't have more or less rights than the other. Fox can't reference the Avengers in anyway. Marvel Studios can't mention mutants because Fox owns the rights. How each studio interprets the characters is up to them. And being that Bryan Singer just put Quicksilver in the movie with no real forethought just to spite the Avengers already having planned to put Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in their movie was the only reason he's in DOFP at all. But i have to say, Marvel Studios by far will have a better plot and already have better Casting choices for the role, and have stated that Avengers will have the comic costumes in the movie. So i am excited for that, not for whatever this mess is.

And how do you know that?