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#1 Edited by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok i will be the Solo guy here

Generation X was better period.

As far as New Mutants go the only person i ever cared for was cannonball (now he is in my top 5 or so x men ever but still) And i seem to like him better outside the group dynamic, i would love to see him shine as leader of anew team who didnt see him as "the hill billy sam who just cant get it done) which seems to be what they thought of him thus why Dani was always leader or atleast co leader

Generation X i think was killed due to writers after that, the powers imo were more gritty and interesting. they showed the downfall of mutant powers (similar to how Morrison did) only they seemed to make them more combat ready and intersting then morrisons run imo. Even skin whose power was disgusting and would suck ass learned to use it in combat, and imo was a cool character. Chamber whose entire chest got blow off, man that sucks right? Then people like penanace you never really got to understand. New mutants lasted longer and have more affect on today's X men simply because they were written by Chris Claremont and when he left them he used his other characters (such as cannonball) and mentioned his stuff in other main X men titles (he also wrote both new mutants and x men at once)

while Lobdell and whoever took over the book after him, didn't have claremonts swag in the X verse (and i think lobdell was gone by the time teh series was over) and the writers who came after just didn't care about those characters when they could write Cyclops, Wolverines ect.

Also keep in Mind imo the Best Emma Frost ever, was the Gen X emma.

Generation X is alot like what i am afraid will happpen to the new X men and lights of alot more recent history. THey were a nice story that was told and had some good characters, but once the original writer was gone the ones after wanted to do thier own thing, and that doesnt include underdeveloped characters, they want stars.

So yea My 3 cents

GO GEN X!

#2 Posted by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@thunderbolt30 said:
@cattlebattle said:

@hislolita said:

Chris Claremont can do no wrong in my eyes.

Mine neither. :D

Although Claremont may not always write the best stuff he always seems determined to do something different or bring in new characters or explore a new concept. Which is what is really needed. Otherwise comic books get repetitive extremely fast.

People often cite his return to the X-books in the year 2000 as bad, I never understood why...maybe it was because he was in the shadow of Morrison's New X-Men. I always thought X-Treme X-Men was pretty good...it had new characters and new villains, Storm in an MMA style tourney with other mutants, Sage and Bishop as a buddy cop duo, Rogue living in a mutant commune. There was so much going on with different characters and it was all pretty natural and well paced. Some writers can't even keep a book flowing with a 5 character team.

Reflects a lot of what I feel for Claremont. I loved his work even when it wasn't always liked by the masses.

Haha, this has made me feel a lot better as an X-Men fan. Thanks, guys.

yea i own the whole Xtreme Xmen series and i perfer it to the Morrison run by a long shot.

Also is Generation X considered a guilty pleasure? cause i dont see much love for it but man i lvoed the hell out of it

#3 Edited by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:
@hislolita said:

Chris Claremont can do no wrong in my eyes.

Mine neither. :D

Although Claremont may not always write the best stuff he always seems determined to do something different or bring in new characters or explore a new concept. Which is what is really needed. Otherwise comic books get repetitive extremely fast.

People often cite his return to the X-books in the year 2000 as bad, I never understood why...maybe it was because he was in the shadow of Morrison's New X-Men. I always thought X-Treme X-Men was pretty good...it had new characters and new villains, Storm in an MMA style tourney with other mutants, Sage and Bishop as a buddy cop duo, Rogue living in a mutant commune. There was so much going on with different characters and it was all pretty natural and well paced. Some writers can't even keep a book flowing with a 5 character team.

X-Treme X-Men was pretty good, I wouldn't even consider it a guilty pleasure.

his work on The Uncanny X-Men through the 2000's I would consider a guilty pleasure, I guess.

I loved all this :D

Also kind of loved Fractions Portrayal of Cyclops its one of my favorites to date lol

#4 Posted by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

i think the whole thing will be recast so i dont think its an issue you have to worry about, but i didnt like the original cast i think Justin Heartly would be great

#5 Edited by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops would take him :-p

But really most any telepath, Iceman, any omega level mutant for sure and alot of the Alpha level ones would put up a good fight if not win

(and i would put my money on cyclops hes like batman with eye beams)

#6 Posted by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

From the following list, who or what do you want to improve in the X-Men universe?

Characters:

Colossus

Cyclops

Wolverine

Kitty Pryde

Storm

Beast

Emma Frost

Jean Grey

Iceman

Story Arcs:

Dark Phoenix Saga

Grant Morrison's Run on New X-Men

Joss Whedon's run on Astonishing X-Men

Days of Future Past

Age of Apocalypse

House of M

Avengers vs. X-Men

You can add more to this list or you don't have to answer all of these questions.

The characters are great when written right id o wish they would stop the whole WE ALL HATE SCOTT bullshit, id like to see the respect he had once back

Story arcs i think its pretty easy here, Grant Morrisons Run (liked bits and pieces but alot could of been cut and changed) and AvX

#7 Posted by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@xmenfallen said:

Okay I love Jennifer :) she is an amazing actress and she has a really good personality BUT i feel like her fame is starting to take over the whole X-men movie franchise. I noticed that Mystique is slowly turning into Wolverine in the movies. She is starting to overshadow the rest of the X-men..... i mean come on the Apocalypse movie will be in 1980's , i think they made this decision so that she can be in it. Honestly Rebecca is actually better..

Do you feel the same way?

Mystique's character is great in all the X-men movies (well, all the ones that are good), and I'm actually a big fan of how they changed her origin to be intrinsically linked to Xavier's, as well as Beast's and Magneto's.

not only is it just a good story, but it makes it not so black and white. Mystique's character and perspective become as central to the story as Xavier's and Magneto's, and she can present a lot of perspectives that they simply can't, making the whole thing have a lot more dimension and depth.

And, so far had no issues whatsoever with Lawrence's portrayal of the character. In 'First Class it may have seemed drastically different from the Mystique we know from the comics, but in the comics we never saw her so young and she didn't have the back-story with Xavier. And in 'DoFP, we see how she's started to evolve into a character that is much more like she was in the comics, so to me it feels like we're getting the best of both worlds.

And it gives what's meant to be a story of otherness a perspective that isn't one of two or three white dudes, so there's that.

i pretty much agree, i didnt think she over shadowed anyone and she seems more ruthless she will be a villain in upcoming films im sure, they are trying to show where the hatred for humans comes from in this cinematic world they are crafting

and i did feel like Prof X was the main character so yea kudos on that!

I do want to see Cyclops and Storm recast and brought into the new movies but thats just me ^^

#8 Posted by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@time said:

I created this thread to see if people agree with me or disagree with me. You also can post your own statements about the X-Men franchise.

1) Cyclops saved the species, a lot of people tend to think this is true. I don't. I think Cyclops contributed to saving the mutant race, but didn't saved the mutant race. Hope Summers, Scarlet Witch and the Phoenix Force save the mutant race.

Not sure which your asking if i agree with but I Agree Cyclops Saved the species how the story was written if he would not have made his stand then Hope, and the Scarlet witch would of never did what they did thus Cyclops was right :-p

2) Uncanny Avengers is one of the worst X-Men titles, if you can call it X-Men title.

Not an X man title

3) Emma Frost has help Cyclops become the man he today and she done more for Cyclops than Jean Grey ever did. A common statement made by a lot of X-Men fans. I think this completely untrue, it sounds like people are giving Emma Frost too much credit.

Eh i think it was way more the Emma, hes been through alot darker times with her so yea

4) Marvel never should of cancel Cable and X-Force.

Totally agree

5) Rogue and Gambit should get back together.

Agreed

6) Emma and Scott breaking up was best thing for X-Men comics, cause nothing happened in the relationship. They didn't moved forward at all.

Disagree

7) We should see more of Boom Boom and Warpath in the spotlight.

Agree

Do you agree with these statements or not. Share your own views please.

#9 Posted by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@oscars94 said:

Wouldn't Darwin's powers have fit better for Trask's Sentinel Program? Adapting to survive... you can't put them down. They were pretty OP in DOFP already, I just think his powers make sense than Mystique's shape-shifting.

using Mystiques power they basically duplicated darwins, and yes it would of been a better fit but then the movie wouldnt of been able to exist cause well darwins dead :-p

#10 Posted by McKlayn (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@koays said:

What then?

A point often debated is whether the X-Men should be in a separate Universe. We argue the merits of doing it but rarely the cause, which is that the X-Men mythos is built on prejudices against a specific type of super-humans.

So lets say we achieve the goal, the world no longer hates and fears all mutants instinctively. All mutants are judged by their own merits.

What comes next?

and

Can the X-Men even survive without the hate, fear and prejudice?

Not the X men we know and love today. Without this special feat they would be just another Avengers or Super friends or wtf ever, the dream can never happen in marvel U cause the X men need it to thrive, to have a reason a cause to be, it would be like removing all the super villains and asking what the avengers would be like lol