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@Bruxae said:

Normally id say the Flash, but I just doubt he could make enough damage in the end to actually take supes down.. While one proper hit from supes would knock flash out cold.

How would Superman ever reach The Flash's speeds to even knock him cold?

You do realize an infinite mass punch fueled by a power million times faster than the Speed of Light could result in a punch way harder than Superman's best?

Juggernaut

He crushes the team real bad.

This battle is a spite.

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I also wanted to put it out there, someone already said this but...

The Flash has outrun the Big Bang before, and it's highly doubtful Superman can catch or even keep up to someone who travels at speeds this high.

@Lord_Moldemvort:

Damn Brother, it's hard to get a point across with you, honestly.

The Phoenix loses in AvX due to Plot Induced Stupidity and Writer Induced Stupidity, how else could I explain it? The Phoenix has shown itself to go against godly beings such as Galactus and even beat him. Doesn't that prove anything???

And by the way, I got this article from the Official Marvel Wikia, so anything said there, is meant to to be right, straight from the facts.

If you are going to be stubborn past this point of the thread brah', I give up explaining things to you. It's pointless and it goes no where, and I mean this in a truthful and honest way, no offence to you.

Good luck to you.

@nickthedevil said:

@jeanroygrant: Ultron, Hood, and Kang

Did you get Ultron and Kang from Earth's Mightiest Heroes? Lol'

What do you think are the fiercest battles on The ComicVine and world-wide among all comic-book fans and why?

It can be to people from different universes or the same universe. It can be all based on opinion and it doesn't have to be in a particular order and neither does it have to have an explanation.

Example (my opinion; in no particular order with no explanation):

• Superman vs. Thor
• The One Above All vs. The Presence
• Black Panther vs. Captain America
• Superman vs. The Flash
• Superman vs. Wonder Woman

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What do you think are the fiercest battles on The ComicVine and world-wide among all comic-book fans and why?

It can be to people from different universes or the same universe. It can be all based on opinion and it doesn't have to be in a particular order and neither does it have to have an explanation.

Example (my opinion; in no particular order with no explanation):

• Superman vs. Thor
• The One Above All vs. The Presence
• Black Panther vs. Captain America
• Superman vs. The Flash
• Superman vs. Wonder Woman

General Discussion Thread by,

Master M0r0n

@xxxddd said:

Batman.

How?

@nickzambuto said:

@PurpleCandy said:

In the first Dragon Ball series it's proven that saiyans have no chemical resitance, since Goku was knocked out by gas, and If I'm not mistaken more than once. You can knock out Raditz with a smoke or anesthetic bomb, or even an atomic nuke since Saiyans can't reistance atomic radiation (Raditz is arrogant so he'll let them throw it on him thinking he will survive). Or even mustard gas, which is outright burn him. There's many ways to beat Raditz, though it can't be with conventional weaponry. Actually it's proven they are not immune to Lava (even after the Cell saga)! They can pour Lava on him. There you go

Though is Vegeta comes like in DBZ a year later he will just blow up the planet from the start, bring an army, or quickly take out the Earth's defenses from a distance.

BloodsunX:

I think the combined effort of either... Hulk and Iron Man, Hulk and Thor, or Thor and Iron Man, should be able to take out Raditz with a lengthy fight. Loki can beat Raditz with cloning himself and mind controlling him, he can teleport after all.

And Raditz is 10 times stronger than Goku in Dragon Ball, what's your point?

We're not beating Raditz with gas, that's silly. Raditz has taken over races far superior to us in the past, like someone said, it's in his job description.

I agree...

What can we do against a cosmic planet-buster?

Someone who can travel at light-speeds?

We would be wiped in seconds by Raditz.

Powers and AbilitiesEdit

Powers

The Phoenix Force is one of the most powerful forces in the Universe. Its powers include:

Future Life-Force Tap: The Phoenix Force can tap into the energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existence. The Phoenix Force possesses limitless cosmic energy. With or without a host, it is one of the most powerful entities in the Marvel Universe.

• Concussive Force Blasts: It can wield this energy to project beams of immense concussive force powerful enough to destroy whole planetary bodies.

• Quantum Singularity: It can transmigrate throughout time and space by folding its energy back into itself, causing it to collapse akin to a black hole. It then reforms itself upon reaching its destination.

• Energy Absorption: It can directly absorb, manipulate, and fully control anytype of energy such as Cyclops' ruby-red-colored optic blasts or the entire energy of a star, black hole, or even a whole galaxy.

• Life-Force Control: The Phoenix Force can control and manipulate life and death itself.

• Psionic Nexus: As the nexus or center of all psionic energy throughout the cosmos, the host attains nigh-infinitely powerful mental abilities, including telepathy, empathy,and telekinesis, and often seeks out hosts who have psionic abilities. When bonded with a host, the Phoenix Force vastly strengthens and amplifies allof their superhuman mutant powers and abilities to immeasurable and innumerable power levels.

• Matter Transmutation: It can manipulate and transmute matter on a sub-atomic level (e.g., turning wood to gold, stone to crystal, etc).

• Cosmic Teleportation: It can teleport others across vast distances such as another planet or galaxy, and the vast vacuum of space itself.

• Desintegration Waves: It can consume and remove a near infinite amount of molecules per second.

• Resurrection Force.: It can resurrect anyone it wishes with its near infinite powers, as it is the embodiment of life and death itself.citation needed]

Cosmic Pyrokinesis: It can create 'cosmic' flames under any conditions even the impossible ones such as vacuum space or underwater. These flames do not require oxygen to burn, and burn so intensely that matter is consumed without by-products such as ash. It has perfect control over these flames, and they only consume what it wills. Typically they manifest as a raptor or part of a raptor such as a claw or wings, in the case of an avatar. It is unclear whether these flames are an extension of its powerful psionic abilities or a literal punctuation to its purpose to 'burn away what doesn't work.'

It's immeasurable cosmic powers and abilities appear to be at their strongest and most powerful when bonded to Jean Grey (possessing incredibly strong and powerful levels of telepathic, empathic, and telekinetic godhood status abilities, complete control and manipulation over the realms of matter, energy, space, time and thought), as the two have a strange, profound connection to each other (Jean is the closest thing the Force has to physical form).

• Like Jean Grey-Summers, the Phoenix used telepathy and telekinesis, but at a much, much greater near-limitless power levels. She was able to rearrange the molecular structure of matter and fly at high hyper-sonic speeds while inside a planetary body. Using the Phoenix Force, she could travel through hyperspace and destroy Shi'ar battlecruisers with little effort.

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@Lord_Moldemvort:

You should read up on Phoenix Force Emma. She some pretty impressive features even The Silver Surfer doesn't have.

Examples"

It can even do what The Silver Surfer can do:

Energy Absorption: It can directly absorb, manipulate, and fully control anytype of energy such as Cyclops' ruby-red-colored optic blasts or the entire energy of a star, black hole, or even a whole galaxy.

The Phoenix Force is God that can manipulate Life and Death itself, unlike The Silver Surfer:

Life-Force Control: The Phoenix Force can control and manipulate life and death itself.

Hope it helped...

@Veitha said:

@Lord_Moldemvort: Emma has got 1/2 of it.

Surfer can't absorb the Phoenix Force because the Phoenix Force isn't an energy! He can absorb a blast made from the Phoenix Force, but he can't absorb the Phoenix coz it's not a form of energy and it decides its host so if the Phoenix wants to stay with Emma, the Phoenix will stay with Emma.

Emma can mind rape him, she can use her cosmic pyrokinesis, she can harm him like she's done with Thor or use the TK to attack him.

Thor hasn't absorbed the Phoenix Force - and he wasn't restraining himself - so I don't see why Surfer can.

When I talked about limitless potential I was talking about the entire Phoenix Force comparing it to Galactus. The Phoenix Force is stronger than Galactus, and the Phoenix Force i what enhances Emma while Galactus is what enhances SS, so Emma is also stronger than him.

Howhever, Emma has told to Scott that she could destroy the planet and made a new one. If she can destroy a planet she can make a planetary attack, so she has also got the power to stop one of it.

SS can't kill Emma - she can regenerate herself easily - while Emma can KO or kill him, so Emma wins.

EXACTLY.

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