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@grandwonder: That's what I thought you were looking for. But all that proves is that Geo-Force can be pierced and beaten up before his powers got adjusted to normal.

So you cite up an incident where Geo-Force is temporarily physically depowered? The thread says Composite Geo-Force and not depowered GF.

The scans showed Geo-Force said he is no longer bulletproof to Black lightning because his powers are changing. What now?

Edit:

Correction to your post that Gorilla Grodd beat him up. It was really Shaggyman who messed him up really bad. When it was Grodd's turn, he didn't even cried out in pain. Impressive since he temporarily lost his durability.

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That still doesn't change the fact that even regular Geo-Force has demonstrated somewhat lackluster durability such as when Batman in the Insider Suit one shotted him with a concussive blast.

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Not only was the Insider suit a weak sauce imitation of the JLA's powers but Geo-Force's powers were back to normal at the time. That's nowhere near the kind of force Hercules can exert with his punches such as staggering World War Hulk whilst holding back.

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So Cheetah yelling out that Grodd was about to kill Geo-Force suddenly has no relevance where it was visibly shown Grodd was doing serious damage to Brion. Also that Shaggy Man is featless and doesn't have the team busting showings of other versions of Shaggy Man or Eiling.

I have never seen Hercules one-shot a Superman-level being like the Eradicator. So my proof still stands. Also, the Wonder Woman example is not valid because she is vastly more fast, agile and skillful than Hercules. She had to change fighting tactics because Achilles has the power to read and anticipate an opponents move. Hercules is severely limited in his fighting skill that he won't even touch Achilles unless he wanted to.

That version of Eradicator was not Superman level by feats. Geo-Force had fought another version of Eradicator before with the Outsiders and that fight went much differently. Here a punch from an angry Geo-Force barely slowed Eradicator down and in the comic the Outsiders had to convince Eradicator of their innocence otherwise they would have lost.

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As far as the Wonder Woman vs Achilles fight goes, it was also pretty clear Diana's physical superiority played a big part in beating Achilles.

So I sincerely doubt Achilles would fair well against Hercules, Geo-Force was brawling with Achilles in spite of the move reading so Hercules would be able to as well and win due to his physical superiority.

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The same Achilles who was embarrassed by Wonder Woman twice and who Hercules is physically comparable to. The Eradicator fight does not prove GF can go toe to toe with Hercules given his physical

I have never seen Hercules one-shot a Superman-level being like the Eradicator. So my proof still stands. Also, the Wonder Woman example is not valid because she is vastly more fast, agile and skillful than Hercules. She had to change fighting tactics because Achilles has the power to read and anticipate an opponents move. Hercules is severely limited in his fighting skill that he won't even touch Achilles unless he wanted to.

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@grandwonder:

How can GF keep him there all that time? You're inventing a strategy and the way Geo-Force fights for what you think would happen or what you would do, not what Geo-Force would do or act.

Again there's no proof Geo-Force's null gravity can carry someone that far or that Hercules can't break free of the gravity control.

1. Plus Gravity and lava blast at the same time.

2. He made a Hercules-like being totally helpless and powerless by making him float in the air.

I'm honestly annoyed. Why do you keep asking for proof when you claimed you're familiar with Geo-Force? The scans show I'm not "inventing a strategy" like you accused me of.

  1. Not on the same target though. There's a difference.
  2. Antaeus' powers come directly from the Earth so Geo-Force had extra reason to keep him afloat. He wouldn't think that about Hercules' strength.

So you're annoyed I want to debate and scrutinise your arguments rather than accept your word blindly? I thought you were familiar with how a debate works. If you want I can actually give you a better example of Geo-Force fighting strategically where he takes down Clayface by filling him with methane rocks and sets off a spark to blow Clayface up. I think that proves I'm familiar with Geo-Force because I can show you contrary to my own position. Of course it doesn't change the fact that Geo-Force is physically inferior to Hercules.

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@emperorthanos: If that's the case then H'El does of course win due to being the most powerful overall.

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@atheistknowledge: Yeah I was gonna say Gladiator has way more than 2 uses of speed in combat. It's obviously still very much up for debate whether Gladiator's speed will be effective against Hulk but Gladiator does have some consistency at using his speed.

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@grandwonder: That's what I thought you were looking for. But all that proves is that Geo-Force can be pierced and beaten up before his powers got adjusted to normal.

The same Achilles who was embarrassed by Wonder Woman twice and who Hercules is physically comparable to. The Eradicator fight does not prove GF can go toe to toe with Hercules given his physical

How can GF keep him there all that time? You're inventing a strategy and the way Geo-Force fights for what you think would happen or what you would do, not what Geo-Force would do or act.

Again there's no proof Geo-Force's null gravity can carry someone that far or that Hercules can't break free of the gravity control.

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@brucerogers: No, Saren did back when he was a regular on the Vine.

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Still as relevant, and humorous, as ever.

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Karnak, Inferno (I think), Ms Marvel, Moon Girl, Devil Dinosaur and Roz Solomon is mostly a waste of a good team comic.

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@emperorthanos: Interesting, it does look like he could just be resisting it though. Superman has resisted Kryptonite despite being in pain from it.

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#10  Edited By Lvenger

@grandwonder: Then let's see it.

Hercules has fought Namor evenly underwater whose strength is increased when hydrated. I think he can handle Geo-Force fine. Also the battle takes place in Mt Fuji, are there any big water sources Geo-Force can even throw Hercules into?