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#1  Edited By LubeMan

that would be Brendan Gleeson, who's been in everything, from 28days later to kingdom of heaven! good choice! I was thinking

to play

He's even geard up with his battle axe!

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spinning from another battle, the thor vs despero thread, and Despero seem to come out on top of that one, so could he stop or take out the Juggernaut? With TP being Juggy's weakness outside of magic, it would seem he would have a very good chance, with despero's strength riveling that of superman and capt marvel, since he took both of them out!

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Methos says:

"LubeMan says:
"Methos says:
"people always underestimate the Green Lanterns... it ain't called "The Most Powerful Weapon in the Universe" for no reason you know... M"
True! but it's only as powerfull as the person who weilds it!"
yup... as stated, Hal Jordan for this battle M"

Too true!

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Methos says:

"people always underestimate the Green Lanterns... it ain't called "The Most Powerful Weapon in the Universe" for no reason you know... M"

True! but it's only as powerfull as the person who weilds it!

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Dormammu says:

"That is true."

So does that mean he's man enough to take it?

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Andferne says:

"I wouls say as long as Thor cold keep him/her/it from possessing him then Thor would win this. But saying that Thor has fallen pray to similar things like that before. I think his warriors training can keep his will strong enough to fight off her attempt to possess him. Classic Thor Vs Eclipso (7/10 Thor) @LubeMan I went to three other web-sites and then returned here to look back, and what you listed had more ino than any three of those sites. Where'd you get the info from? I'm trying to find another DC site thats more exstensive."

alot of it's from alot of the comics i've got, but you'll find it on wicca!

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Spectre

Later in the '90s, the series The Spectre gave key revelations about Eclipso. The Spectre was not the first embodiment of the wrath of God, but was Eclipso's replacement. Series writer John Ostrander chose to portray this as a distinction between the Spectre's pursuit of vengeance and Eclipso's pursuit of revenge. In a historical context, Eclipso was responsible for the Biblical Flood, while the Spectre was the Angel of Death who slew the first-born Egyptian children.

The Spectre puts the final nail in Eclipso's coffin by taking the Heart of Darkness from Earth, along with the remains of Eclipso's palace on the moon, burning them to ash with the holy power of God, and casting the ashes into space.

In Countdown to Mystery #3, Crispus Allen, the Spectre's current host, tracks down Bruce Gordon.

In Countdown to Mystery #4, Eclipso once again takes Gordon as a host.

Alex Montez as Eclipso

Eclipso returned after several years' absence in the "Princes of Darkness" storyline in JSA as an ally of the other shadow-based villains Mordru and Obsidian. Alexander Montez, cousin of Yolanda, vows revenge on Eclipso for Yolanda's death. To this end, he gathers the 1,000 black diamonds, liquifies them, and injects them into himself; all save one, which he keeps to evoke Eclipso. Exactly how Eclipso's diamonds had returned was unknown. Alex covers his body in tribal tattoos he claims he had learned about on Diablo Island. With these tattoos, Montez could summon all the powers of Eclipso by triggering the diamond with his anger, while remaining in control of himself and keeping Eclipso trapped within. As the new Eclipso, he joins the short-lived team of loose-cannon heroes assembled by Black Adam, which was the subject of the subsequent storyline "Black Reign".

During Adam's reign in Kahndaq, Alex becomes romantically involved with his teammate Soseh Mykros, the female Nemesis. However, during a battle, one of Alex's binding glyphs (which keeps Eclipso in control) is broken via a shoulder wound. Eclipso soon kills Nemesis. Alex kills himself in order to prevent Eclipso from controlling him further. This story was significant as it meant that Eclipso no longer had a limitless number of black diamonds waiting out in the world for him to utilize.

Interestingly, this incarnation of Eclipso was never shown using any power but his eye blasts.

In Countdown to Mystery #4, Alex's body is acquired by Eclipso's followers for a as-yet-unknown magic ritual.

Lightning Strikes Twice

Despite the loss of the other black diamonds, the disembodied Eclipso then tries to possess Superman by antagonizing him through many deaths. He eventually possesses Superman by upsetting him via his possession of Lois Lane. At this point, the wizard Shazam steps in by sending Captain Marvel to fight the possessed Eclipso-Superman. Thanks to Superman's weakness to magic, Captain Marvel is able to do a significant amount of damage to Eclipso; a prominent method of attack he uses is to continuously trigger his transformations in close proximity to Superman, resulting in the lightning striking Eclipso.

Eventually, Shazam himself removes Eclipso from Superman by calling upon the hostless Spectre himself to do it. The Spectre forces Eclipso back into a lone black diamond. The Spectre then warns Shazam that he's made an enemy of Eclipso and that the Spectre will no longer defend him. At the end of this series, the black diamond is seen appearing in Jean Loring's cell in Arkham Asylum.

Jean Loring as eclipso

In the Day of Vengeance miniseries, which tied into the Infinite Crisis event, Jean Loring, ex-wife of Atom (Ray Palmer) and murderer of Sue Dibny as seen in the Identity Crisis miniseries, discovered the last black diamond in her prison cell, became the new Eclipso and tricks the Spectre into attacking magic-based heroes as her revenge against Shazam, who was eventually slain while fighting the Spectre. After fending off multiple attacks upon herself, Eclipso-Loring was eventually teleported to a non-decaying orbit around the sun by Nightshade.

In the pages of Infinite Crisis, it was revealed by Alexander Luthor, Jr. that he had sent Superboy-Prime to recover the black diamond, and that the Psycho-Pirate delivered it to Loring on Alex's orders and manipulated Eclipso into manipulating the Spectre. This was all done in the interests of breaking magic down into raw magical energy, which Alexander could use for his own ends. The death of Shazam was particularly useful, as his various champions then became a tether of power; all Alexander had to do was capture one of them, make them say 'Shazam', and they would summon their lightning bolt to power his machine.

In Week Twenty-Seven of 52, Ralph Dibny, on a quest to restore his wife Sue to life and guided by the helmet of Doctor Fate, approaches the Spectre and promises to fulfil any bargain that the Spectre demands in order to restore his wife to life.

The Spectre, desiring revenge on Eclipso for his manipulations of him during the Infinite Crisis but rendered incapable of taking it owing to his present lack of a host, orders Dibny to punish Eclipso in return for his wife's life; Dibny, realizing that this meant punishing Jean Loring, his wife's murderer, and temporarily granted the power of the Spectre, takes Eclipso back to the point at which she (as Jean Loring) murdered his wife and, restoring Jean's sanity, ruthlessly intends to trap her in a permanent time loop and force her to watch herself murder Sue Dibny over and over for all eternity.

Her sanity restored and Eclipso purged out of her, a terrified Loring tearfully begs for forgiveness, screaming that she 'was crazy' when she murdered Sue and that it 'wasn't me!'. Dibny, affected by her pleas, his sense of compassion and his own feelings on watching his wife's death, finds himself incapable of such ruthlessness and refuses to complete his pact with the Spectre, returning Eclipso to her orbit around the sun.

She has most recently been seen in Blue Beetle #16, searching for a new host. Having come to the conclusion that her hosts' corrupted souls are a cause of her failures, she tries to possess a baby with great magical potential and a pure, uncorrupted soul. She is foiled in this attempt by Blue Beetle and Traci Thirteen.

It was revealed in Countdown To Mystery that all of Eclipso's black diamonds were mined on Apokolips millennia ago and that Eclipso was created by Darkseid.

In the recent "The Seduction of the Innocent" ad campaign for DC's Countdown, Eclipso's arm can be clearly seen, with Mary Marvel looking off-page and her face half-shadowed. And indeed, Eclipso is seen in Countdown #38 watching Mary Marvel and plotting to make Mary into her minion. Increasing her anger and suspicions around the other magical being around her, she manages to warp the sunny and cheery disposition of Mary into sheer anger and distrust, and then offer herself as friend and confident. After attempting to make her Darkseid's concubine, however, Mary rebels, and attempts to kill her.

In Countdown To Mystery, Eclipso corrupts more heroes, first Plastic Man and then setting her sights on the Creeper. Mary discovers Eclipso's manipulation of her, and in Countdown #17 she sacrifices her abilities and attacks Eclipso with all her power, leaving Mary and Jean freefalling to the oceans surrounding Themyscira. The Eclipso diamond however, finds a home in former host Bruce Gordon in Countdown to Mystery #4. In the same issue, Creeper and Plastic Man appear still under Eclipso's sway despite the change in power. They are at the home of billionaire Rosario Occotto, who is feeding off of the Eclipso-laced blood in Alex Montez's veins. They are joined by one more corrupted hero - Dove

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G-Man says:

"It seems it might easier to get the "quiet" ones to infiltrate teams. I was thinking Wong too. But the Skrulls probably want to go after ones with more power. People like Wong and Jarvis would be easier to mimic. They posed as Elektra. She doesn't have super powers. They posed as Black Bolt. He couldn't use his power without destroying a bunch of stuff. The Skrulls are sneaky. So maybe people with flashy powers are not so obvious of choices. We know they can copy super powers (Super Skrull) but dealing with a way to fake Wolvie, Spidey, etc might be enough for them to worry about."

A skrull's already posed as wolvie back when wolvie got turned into death by apoc! the skrull that was posing as wolvie got killed and that was how they found out! so the skrull even had prof x and the xmen fooled! it was in uncanny #475, i think, cause he actually got killed by death (who just happend to be the real wolverine as you found out later) so the skrull wolverine got killed by the real wolverine who got turned into death by apocalypse! confusing, huh! what I don't get, is the fact that the skrull empire is in tatters and has been for sometime, especially recently with the first annihilation mini, in which the skrull empire lost everything, there home world pretty much any other worlds they occupied! so they have no homeworld, no homebase, are in dissaray with no galaxy/quadrant of there own! there not really much of a powerhouse at the moment I can't really see them that much of a threat considering they pretty much did get annihilated during annihilation! prob not the best time to try and be planning an invasion, secret or otherwise! same goes for the kree, there in dissary at the moment too!

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The Speedster says:

"lordraiden says:
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Why would galactus protect them?"

He wouldn't! that was an illusion cast by strange to scare of the skrull amada after they made a run for it! it's from illuminati #1 and it took place during the first kree/skrull war, which was years ago!