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I'm moving in August. Wonder how many longboxes I'll get up the stairs before my back gives out?

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Pretty tense issue. I like how, much like the coil of the seteh game, this issue has us circling back to the meeting of Bruce and Nygma early in the arc.

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Well...that was awesome. I'm not up to speed on what's up with Strange in New Avengers. I glean he's sold his soul and done some unsavory things. Regardless I thought this was a bang up issue. Great stand alone annual that for once was worth the price. Marco Rudy is a psychedelic madman. Every page was stunning to look at. I want more of this.

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@everythingcomics: Actually there are several people fit to do what Dick does. Case in point there have been numerous Robins and over the years the Teen Titans have been lead by Cyborg, Tim Drake, Cassie Sandsmark, etc. As for 90% of the DCU being able to dodge Ollie's arrows, yeah...that statistic is a complete fabrication. Can Green Arrow be replaced? Absolutley, after issue #101 his son Connor took his place for years in his own title. His protege Roy took his spot on the Justice League during Brad Meltzer's run. I fail to see how thats a black mark on the integrity of his character. Because in both instances Oliver Queen has come back and claimed his spot because people love him as a character. You say he doesnt stand out, I have to ask, what storylines have you been reading? Are you saying Green Arrow doesnt shine amongst a large cast? Read Identity Crisis. Even his brief appearance in The Dark Knight Returns is remembered very fondly. Hell, the first Green Arrow story I ever read was a prestige format one-shot team up with Batman called "The Poison Tomorrow". After reading that I didnt run out and buy Batman books, I went searching back issue bins for Green Arrow comics. I'll end it with this. Any informed comic book reader knows that there are no bad characters, only bad writers. Forget feats, abilities, superpowers or a lack thereof. A character's true worth is in how many good stories have been told with said character. Oliver Queen has been in the hands of creators like Jack Kirby, Denny O'Neil, Neal Adams, Mike Grell, Kevin Smith, Phil Hester, Brad Meltzer, Judd Winick, Cliff Chiang, Mike Norton, Jeff Lemire and Andrea Sorrentino. It's hard to argue with a track record like that. If you really want to know why Green Arrow is a good character, I suggest you stop wasting your time on this forum and pick up Green Lantern/Green Arrow, The Longbow Hunters, Quiver or jump onto his current ongoing.

You almost could of convinced me with that but its sad to say that even if we forget about the powers or feats or any of that stuff. If you search it online many did not like the green arrow new 52 comics. I think there is even a thread about it. Also it is possible for a character to be bad. The character can be bad if it has a bad writer. People remember green arrow in the movie the dark knight returns because he was in a movie where batman fought superman and you know something like that is going to draw attention. I judge a character on how they size up against others when it comes to story, character development etc. Everything I have seen green arrow in there has been complaints. Examples: green arrow New 52 comics, injustice gods among us, Arrow. These are things that green were in. People didn't like the comics, they say he is a horrible character to play as in injustice, and people hated season one of Arrow. The reason it got any attention was because they said death stroke and flash would be in it. If you look at green arrow and just nothing else you might say he is good. Now if you size him up against successful characters, you might say something else.

You know what? I was one of those people complaining about the first season of Arrow and the start of his New 52 comic. Tell you the truth I didnt like what JT Krul was doing on Green Arrow before the reboot. I get the sense that you are both young and a novice comic reader. Because one thing you dont do is judge a character with 70 years of history based on a video game, a bad run, or the opinions of anonymous online users. But since you're keen on that idea, look up what people online think of Devin Grayson's Nightwing. Because all characters have had bad storylines. I'm not trying to convince you that I'm right and you're wrong. I've been around long enough to know that's near impossible to do with anybody. What I am trying to do is give you facts in hopes that you stop thinking like a fanboy and assess the worth of a character logically. Ok, I've spent way too much time on this. I got back from the comic shop about an hour ago and there is a pile of books screaming my name.

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#4  Edited By longbowhunter

@everythingcomics: Actually there are several people fit to do what Dick does. Case in point there have been numerous Robins and over the years the Teen Titans have been lead by Cyborg, Tim Drake, Cassie Sandsmark, etc. As for 90% of the DCU being able to dodge Ollie's arrows, yeah...that statistic is a complete fabrication. Can Green Arrow be replaced? Absolutley, after issue #101 his son Connor took his place for years in his own title. His protege Roy took his spot on the Justice League during Brad Meltzer's run. I fail to see how thats a black mark on the integrity of his character. Because in both instances Oliver Queen has come back and claimed his spot because people love him as a character. You say he doesnt stand out, I have to ask, what storylines have you been reading? Are you saying Green Arrow doesnt shine amongst a large cast? Read Identity Crisis. Even his brief appearance in The Dark Knight Returns is remembered very fondly. Hell, the first Green Arrow story I ever read was a prestige format one-shot team up with Batman called "The Poison Tomorrow". After reading that I didnt run out and buy Batman books, I went searching back issue bins for Green Arrow comics. I'll end it with this. Any informed comic book reader knows that there are no bad characters, only bad writers. Forget feats, abilities, superpowers or a lack thereof. A character's true worth is in how many good stories have been told with said character. Oliver Queen has been in the hands of creators like Jack Kirby, Denny O'Neil, Neal Adams, Mike Grell, Kevin Smith, Phil Hester, Brad Meltzer, Judd Winick, Cliff Chiang, Mike Norton, Jeff Lemire and Andrea Sorrentino. It's hard to argue with a track record like that. If you really want to know why Green Arrow is a good character, I suggest you stop wasting your time on this forum and pick up Green Lantern/Green Arrow, The Longbow Hunters, Quiver or jump onto his current ongoing.

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Thank god. I loved his Action run back in the day. Here's hoping his Superman is just as good.

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Well, I'm a massive Green Arrow fan and I didnt want to choose something super obvious so I chose the name of one of my favorite stories starring the Emerald Archer.

As for my avatar, I just changed it for the first time in four years to G'nort because of K4tzm4n.

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@longbowhunter wouldn't you say night wing is in the same boat though. Night wing is a human with a life but was the leader of the teen titans. He outside of the justice league is the one hero who's death would sadden everyone. He is also vulnerable due to the fact that he trusts people unlike his mentor. But night wing still more interesting than GA(opinion). They're kind of in the same position but NW is cooler.

Absolutely. Dick is a perfect example of a POV character. In fact it was one of the reasons he was created in the first place. Young boys were meant to identify with the Boy Wonder. Take a walk in his pixie boots if you will. So it seems like you've answered your own question as to why GA is on the Justice League. Just as Nightwing is to Batman or the Teen Titans, so too is Green Arrow our audience surrogate for the Justice League.

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I order from there a few times a year. Big selection of back issues, cheap shipping. Perfect if your trying to fill gaps in your collection. If they dont have what you're looking for, add it to your want list and they email you when it comes in.

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Been on here a long time. Trolls haven't been a big issue for me. But yeah...it happens from time to time.