lokiofmidgaard

The British comic Vulcan

Vulcan (Volume) - Comic Vine (gamespot.com)

ran for 30 issues only released in Scotland, and then 28 additional issue released across the whole of the UK. The final issue was the one cover dated 3rd April 1976. A couple of years back someone online speculated what stories might have gone into subsequent issues, mocked up covers in photoshop, and made cbr files using stories scanned from other comics. These are not legit issues, any more than if a fan was to cut and paste old stories from horror comics to make up "new" issues of E.C.'s Tales from the Crypt, but someone has added over a hundred of these fan-made issues to the Vulcan listing.

The British comic Vulcan

Vulcan (Volume) - Comic Vine (gamespot.com)

ran for 30 issues only released in Scotland, and then 28 additional issue released across the whole of the UK. The final issue was the one cover dated 3rd April 1976. A couple of years back someone online speculated what stories might have gone into subsequent issues, mocked up covers in photoshop, and made cbr files using stories scanned from other comics. These are not legit issues, any more than if a fan was to cut and paste old stories from horror comics to make up "new" issues of E.C.'s Tales from the Crypt, but someone has added over a hundred of these fan-made issues to the Vulcan listing.

I've uploaded a new, much better image of the cover of this comic:

Magic Comic #40 (Issue) (gamespot.com)

but can't see how to swap things round so the new image becomes the main one. I'm sure there used to be a way to do it, but either I've forgotten or the formatting options have been changed since last I did it.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/reptilians/4060-59391/

I added this a long time back as Draconians, for a specific alien species from Doctor Who TV and comics. At some stage it appears that someone changed it to Reptilians, thinking it covered generic alien reptile species. It needs changed back, and the aliases need to be removed, because they don't apply to the Draconians.

Dee Cuninffe is a spelling error in the surname, and a duplicate of (the correctly spelled) Dee Cunniffe.

Kwenzi should be Kwezi. Typo.

Yes, I found "some find it dubious" to be insufficient, when "some" are Marvel, and specifically include Mark Gruenwald, Roger Stern and Stan Lee, and where "find it dubious" is "have stated clearly multiple times that it never happened." That's a clear retcon. As for finding what I wrote too one-sided, I simply stated the facts, but Powerherc wants it to include his personal requirements for accepting it, despite requirements such as "they need to explain how Manhattan got restored to its proper place" having already been covered.

And @RazzaTazz : I've not modified the page since this discussion started, except after discussing it with a moderator. I've only ever stated the evidence, and then made changes requested by a moderator, unlike Powerherc. I've wanted these changes moderated since the outset of this discussion, because it is clear Powerherc won't compromise. I agree that the event was depicted, and did "happen" (in as much as any story in a comic does), but I also recognise that Marvel has subsequently retconned this out of continuity. That's all I ever wanted to have the page reflect, but Powerherc originally wanted it to only include the original version, and now, after overwhelming evidence that there has been a retcon, he's still only willing to go with "but it's not been retconned to my satisfaction, so that retcon doesn't count." That flies in the face of Roger Stern's statement on the panel, which makes it clear that a retcon happened

"Yes, the reference in Incredible Hulk #241 is the explanation for what really happened in Marvel Team-Up #28.

Hercules never towed Manhattan back into place because it had never been torn loose from bedrock. He had, instead, saved the city -- with a little help from Spider-Man's scientific direction -- in the manner revealed in the Hulk story.

....

The whole mess was recounted in the Marvel No-Prize Book.

If anyone believed that Marvel Team-Up #28 was the true story ... well ... both Geology and Geography (not to mention, Physics) says they're wrong."

@PowerHerc said:

@lokiofmidgaard@RazzaTazz:

You just can't get over it, can you? Despite what RazzaTazz suggested, your revised explanation was one-sided (no surprise there) and therefor insufficient.

I have edited it to reflect both of our views.

It's not my view. It is Marvel's. That's the whole point. You are, by your own admission, a biased Hercules fan. I am not, despite your inability to grasp it, anti-Hercules.

Marvel has not outright retconned it. If they had the feat would've been shown clearly happening differently on panel. It hasn't.

Marvel editorial made statements years later to apparently retcon it. That is far from outright. Get it straight.

I have it straight; you don't. Marvel has outright retconned it. There's no "apparent" to it. The panel in the Hulk refers to the scene in question, as confirmed by the writer of said Hulk issue. Then, to make it more explicit, Marvel listed that MTU panel amongst their "biggest mistakes" in the No-Prize book, and very clearly and outrightly said in multiple Indexes and handbooks that this event never happened. There's no need for them to revisit it just to satisfy you. There's no need for them to provide an explanation for how Manhattan got back to its proper place, because they've said it never left it in the first place.

@pikahyper said:

@lokiofmidgaard: much better, the subject is closed.

You might think so, Powerherc disagrees. He's modified the page again, changing what I added to try and cast doubt on Marvel's stance, to whit adding

though Manhattan Island being restored to it's proper place has never been explained or shown to be accomplished differently nor has Hercules ever been shown boasting about it.

Aside from the bad grammar (it should be its, not it's), Manhattan being restored to its proper place has been explained, in as much as they've said it was never removed from its proper place (something the Incredible Hulk panel and Index quote both make clear), and they don't need to show it being accomplished differently. That they've not shown it to Powerherc's personal level of satisfaction does not mean they haven't retconned it.

@pikahyper said:

@lokiofmidgaard: so you've only included it as an overly long caption to an image? it should be included at the end of the Superhuman Strength section and explained there, the image if kept should have a basic caption and be near the section added.

Okay, I've amended it. Lenghty caption removed, replaced with a much shorter

Hercules towing Manhattan, from MTU #28

and image now placed at the end of the strength section alongside a new paragraph

In Marvel Team-Up #28 Hercules was seen to pull a floating Manhattan island, which weighs over 100,000 tons, after it was broken free from its bedrock. However, Marvel has since retconned this event not to have actually happened, writing it off as a boast on Hercules' part.