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#1  Edited By Lokheit

@themanintheshoe said:

Not Vision, please not Vision. Hopefully just a villain. Don't get me wrong, I want Vision to be in Avengers but played by a different actor.

@lvenger said:

I'm not terribly pleased with this. Vin Diesel's acting credentials don't impress me too much.

I think Vin Diesel can pull it off. He did another robotic character before with Iron Giant.

NO ONE! Vin Diesel f*ckng sucks at acting.

While normally he's cast for the typical plain tough guy, I've seen him doing some good acting. He did a very good job in diablo (the film, not the videogame that is a completly unrelated thing, I recommend it).

I hope he isn't Hank Pym as he doesn't look like Hank Pym, but he could be a good Vision, Thanos or Absorbing Man.

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I'm liking the character evolution here, and I'm glad the so anticipated Cyclops vs. Magneto battle was just some words and even then was all reasonable and nothing frontal (and in fact made their relationship closer).

I'm interested to see how Goldball deals with all the SHIELD and Dazzler thing. Dazzler hunting Cyclops for SHIELD doesn't makes too much sense as she was on his side post Schism, but we will see what happens.

My only "but" so far is that Triage is a bit redundant with Elixir who as a young student and an Omega Level one with lots of unused potential, and being a good character could be great (I would like Kyle and Yost kids being featured more), but let's see how all evolves.

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IMHO it was great... to set everything for Whedon run!! He put there all the ingredients and then Josh made the real deal.

As others said the art from most the first half of his run was awful. The worst part was when Emma was going to start treating Scott with his problem and she has a scene telling him "aunt Emma" would help him that was supposed to be her sexiest pose ever and... the result was horrible, I think it was Quitely? I don't remember right now but there were several awful artists. During the end Bachalo and others raised the level, but the start was awful artistically.

That he made Scott and Jean's relationship end was great (Jean was a terrible wife, always limiting Scott's character, even Maddy was better... and btw Jean was the first one to cheat, and physically) but that Scott and Emma started their relationship (my favorite couple ever in comics) was greater! Some of his villians were very important, like Cassandra and Sublime (currently used in the all female X-Men with added lore to his past). One of the awful things was all the weird stuff with Magneto being Xorn, and then Marvel reconecting it to it being Xorn believing he was Magneto... something about the Physical properties of Xorn and how he displayed powers Magneto can't, but then he having Magneto's face instead of his own face didn't make any sense. He set the precedent for Decimation too.

He also made Weapon Plus evolve a huge lot with his introduction of multiple weapons (including Fantomex and the Cuckoos). Thanks to that evolution it has been explored in multiple arcs after that. And I'm not sure but I think it was him who made the Captain America conection to the programm.

So TLDR: Good run to set precedents to what happened after that, specially for Josh Whedon's run which was great. The art was awful at the beginning and there were some bits hardly explicable.

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Cap proves he's an hypocrite everywhere, first with all the Cyclops stuff, now with Wolverine killing (a discussion that they had yeeeeeaaaaaaars ago)... when while Steve was the leader of the Secret Avengers he made Beast kill an entire underground city with millions of habitants and at the end he tapped his back and told him "it was for the greater good, don't worry". Apparently only if Cap gives the orders, killing for a greater good or taking risks with Hope getting the Phoenix Force is justified. If anyone else takes those decissions, then Cap must step with his righteous shinny shield and bash them as he's the only one allowed to do anything like that.

Thor here, as Rogue said, is the one sane Avenger here (at least Wasp isn't an hypocrite about that part and I can see her personal reasons for not being comfortable). The others are a bunch of hypocrites (not that Wolverine isn't, he is too the way he acts with the Cyclops situation when he continued with X-Force and killed many more than him without being possesed by a cosmic force, but in this case Cap is the one causing trouble with his own hypocresy).

Poor Alex, Cap is using him so that he can make the decissions for the mutants (because remember, only Steve can make decissions about everything) and show Alex's face so mutants accept them. I loved seeing Alex fighting him in Cable and X-Force when Hope tricked their minds and that's what should happen here...

Don't get me wrong, I'm loving this series and the dialogues were great. I like the way this is developing. It's just that it irks me when Cap (or Wolverine in other situations) act like righteous saints when they're just hypocrites.

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So... all those 10 issues were just there to tell us that at some point of abusing time travelling the continuum would break and this was just the story of that one time? Did we really need 10 issues for that?

And there are many titles using time travelling right now anyway (like ANXM and Uncanny Avengers, the later this same month using a time storm to avoid time travelling to or outside their era).

I think there were other many ways to make the "conclussions" of this saga.

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I felt like they though I was a 4 year old when reading this... really, this issue was all about: hurr durr durr!! we're da schoolzz of crazy villianzz for crazy villianzz stuff!! hurr durr!! aren't we evilzzzz!!!

Exactly what are they teaching? Really, Mystique's "quiz" was like... really? Raven Darkholme is doing this stupid nonsense quiz? Raven friggin Darkholme?!?

Why make an school like that at all? Business? Really? Who is going to learn something for Kade to do business there when it's all about pompous braindead villians wroten like pure evil guys without more motivation than being evil and "hurr durr"?

I used to like Jason Aaron a huge lot, he wrote some comics that I had in very high standards. When he wrote Schism I was like "ok, I know he can do muuuuuch better than this nosense, probably this was him doing Marvel's instruction at separating the teams, let's give him some rope...", but really, with each new issue of this book written for 4 year old kids (and the way he hates Scott as during AvX every single issue with Aaron as a writter was a try to villianize him, really read the issues and crossovers wrotten by him and compare them with the others... Aaron apparently has some grudge against poor Cyclops) I lost more and more respect for him.

And I have a friend that loves Toad, he hasn't read this issue yet but I now he will be really mad at the nonsensical mistreat he's suffering... the guy knows science! a lot indeed! so all those examples of ridiculous things he could teach (given by Mortimer himself which is poor and uninformed writing) to end up making him clean the school yet again were BS when he would be a better teacher than most idiots in this issue. He got a lot of development in the past and here Aaron is just making a joke of it. And I also don't like how Aaron is dealing with Husk "crazyness" she felt like the most "hurr durr flat character" of them all when that thing had a lot of potential for some cool writting.

The only thing I'm liking a bit is Kid Omega, I'll give that, but I'm waiting for Kyle and Yost to put all those stupid students in WatXM book in a buss and make it explode so we can have the interesting characters from their run making a return to the spotlight.

Even Bendis ANXM book that isn't so focused in the school does a better job as a school book than this.

/rant off

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While we all know at the end they will realize what Dark Beast did during the previous arc, remove the fragment of him and everything will be ok, which will made the whole arc rather pointless aside of Bobby finally being the focus of atention for once and maybe some consequences for the character's life, I have to say that I really like a writer finally showing what his OMEGA MUTANT powers could do when fully unleashed.

He's an omega mutant and this is rarely touched. It was kind of touched before some years ago when he was able to reform his body from water vapor in the atmosphere (or havok's pee), or with his AoA self, but seeing where his limits are is really cool.

For an omega mutant that is also one of the original 5, he has always been an underused secondary character when he had so much potential.Omega Mutant means he should be constantly in the spotlight dealing with the heavyhitters like Thor would do with the Avengers.

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@liveforever said:

Very interesting issue, especially considering not much happens (oh, hey Bendis), but one thing still bothers me.

Scarlet Witch: "You're accusing me of things I did not do consciously."

What the hell was it when Cyclops killed Xavier then?! You can't say that was fully conscious! I could swallow all of the hypocrisy from Wolverine, Beast, Scarlet Witch & Cap if it was POINTED OUT IN THE NARRATIVE by someone!

It drives me nuts.

This is what I came here to say.

They had all the pieces to formulate the real question but at the end no one did it and I think someone should've done it:

- First Alex tells young Scotty that present Scott is telling things to himself about what happened in Xavier's death to live with it.

- Then when Jean asks about the Scarlet Witch they say that it's ok because she wasn't in control...

The question: Why Wanda is innocent and Scott isn't was in the air, they should've made it and slap all hypocrites there with it. Scott was not just out of his mind, he was possesed by a comic entity! And he didn't lose it until the Avengers started poking him until he got angry.

I'm beginning to think all you need to prove your innocence is be Steve's buddy or himself:

- Wanda goes crazy and decimates mutankind, but it's OK because Cap has feelings for her. Scott goes possesed, is poked until he can't control it anymore and kill 1 person (less than Wolverine, Wanda, Beast...) but as he didn't hook up with Cap he isn't innocent.

- Scott wants Hope to get the Phoenix Force but caps decides that if someone is going to save the planet it's him so without knwoing anything about the PF he starts smashing at them and at the end his team causes the PF to posses them. Then when those possesed X-Men start doing good stuff for the planet he realizes that the one doing good stuff isn't him, so that can't be right and he thinks that they will end up going crazy... so he decides the best idea would be to poke them with a stick non-stop!! Absolutely genious!! And then to solve things Cap USES SCOTT ORIGINAL PLAN and it works... but because it was Cap who took the decission and not Scott it's alright.

- Beast discovers Scott's X-Force and gets mad at him, leaves the team and from there thinks Scott is a psychopath to the point he risks the whole reality just to prove his point (when really he left because he was mad at them letting Osborn torture him a bit longer than needed as part of a plan, but he told to himself that it was because Scott is bad to justify his actions and hypocresy). Later he becomes a part of Steve's Secret Avengers and during a mission HE KILLS MILLIONS (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than either Scott's X-Force or Scott while possesed) and he only needed Steve (Steve, not Scott of course) telling him it was for a greater good to feel ok about that. If it had been Scott he would've hated him for that (he already was mad at him for a similar decission in a lesser scale by Scott during Secret Invasion).

- Aditionally when Beast joins Wolverine school he discovers that Wolverine continued with X-Force when Scott decided it was enough. Did he leave the school? Nay, he's just mad at Scott because Osborn tortured him and his feelings are hurt. He could live with Wolverine's team killing others because they weren't Scott. And again, he risked the whole reality because he was going to die anyway so he didn't care about others life if his own was going to end without proving his point.

Basically they're all a bunch of hypocrites at this point. I think the young X-Men are starting to see it but I think that question shoud've been done and I the fact that they didn't makes me think it will never be made so all the hypocrites can stand there looking like saints.

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#9  Edited By Lokheit

I just realized this after so many issues: how did Bishop recover his right arm? O.o

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think the scene where Storm destroys one of Bishop memories of him wanting to kill Hope is a VERY BAD EXCUSE to bring him back to the hero side. VERY VERY BAD AND LAZY EXCUSE. Specially when apparently he's already taking the route of the repent guy that is actively working to make up for his sins with all that stuff from the order and killing revenants.

If that destroyed though is later used as part of his rehabilitation it would be a joke.

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I found this interesting thoug I think I will have to re-read some things about Sublime as those origins weren't in the lines of what I remembered about him.

Edit: Ok they were in line of what I though, only that I had forgotten it xD

And...

Poor Karima, she can't take a break, I think she's already beaten Wolverine in times mind controlled by bad guys. First the sentinel automation, then the Malice and the Marauders, the Bastion... and now Sublime's sister Arkea. Fun thing is that recently I was thinking about how could she return as she's even a recent adition to the Facebook game. I hope after this she can be alive and a hero again.