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#1  Edited By Logic_and_Debate

Morals on, but battle to the death. Win by death of enemy. Battle takes place in San Francisco. No external help.

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#2  Edited By Logic_and_Debate

*WARNING: POTENTIAL SPOILERS*
 
I just saw the third Transformer movie. It was pretty good. Seeing the movie led me to ask this question. 
 
Who do you think would win, the Aliens from Battle: Los Angeles or The Decepticon invasion from Transformers: Dark of the Moon.
 
 
1st battle: 100 Decepticons and their resources and tech vs 100 of those gooey aliens from Battle: LA with their resources and tech. Battle takes place in Chicago and the surrounding suburbs (but mainly in Chicago). Morals on. Win by extermination of the enemy. 
 
2nd battle: The entire Battle: LA aliens and their fleets that came to earth in the movie vs the 200 - 300 Decepticons  that invaded earth in TF3. All morals on and each side has their respective tech and resources. Battle is confined to earth. So no leaving to get reinforcements or something.

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#3  Edited By Logic_and_Debate
@Mikepool said:

"Logic > Blind Batman Fanboyism Spartan Wins "


And logic is what your arguements are partially missing, considering all the logical falacies in your previous posts.
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#4  Edited By Logic_and_Debate
@Mikepool said:
" @Logic_and_Debate said:
" @Cosmic_Falcon said:
" @Logic_and_Debate said:

" Lets see,......... strength - brucespeed - spartanagility - tiedtechnique - bruceendurance - spartanI think that I'm leaning towards the spartan now, since they can both equally hit each other at around the same force, at around the same amount of times. However, since the spartan has better endurance, I believe that he'll take more hits before he falls. So I believe that the spartan will win 6/10 and bruce is 4/10. However, like Hero 1921 said, bruce is a master strategist. So I believe that bruce still has a chance. Since I created this thread with only Hand to Hand / Close quarters Combat allowed, I believe I have severely limited bruce's capabilities, since I took away his ability to strategize about the and with the environment. So since I limited Bruces' capabilities, I believe that is what made me re-cast my vote. However, Bruce is one of the most powerful non-modified (including drugs) humans in all of comics. So props to him.  "

Bruce isn't stronger then a Spartan, you have to remember that a Spartan can weigh around half a ton, so they're able to move ridiculously fast with all of that armor on.  "
He's stronger than a spartan out of armor. They suit becomes light when it is activated. "
The suit still makes them weigh almost a ton and the still move faster than human eyes can detect. Bruce would put the suit on and kill himself just trying to raise an arm or take a few steps. "
Irrelevant thesis all over this post. First off, the suit has nothing to do with this battle, since this is without the suit. Secondly, no one but you is talking about Bruce going into a mjolnir suit. Also, the suit making them weigh more doesn't make them any stronger out of armor.
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#5  Edited By Logic_and_Debate
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
" @Logic_and_Debate said:

" Lets see,......... strength - brucespeed - spartanagility - tiedtechnique - bruceendurance - spartanI think that I'm leaning towards the spartan now, since they can both equally hit each other at around the same force, at around the same amount of times. However, since the spartan has better endurance, I believe that he'll take more hits before he falls. So I believe that the spartan will win 6/10 and bruce is 4/10. However, like Hero 1921 said, bruce is a master strategist. So I believe that bruce still has a chance. Since I created this thread with only Hand to Hand / Close quarters Combat allowed, I believe I have severely limited bruce's capabilities, since I took away his ability to strategize about the and with the environment. So since I limited Bruces' capabilities, I believe that is what made me re-cast my vote. However, Bruce is one of the most powerful non-modified (including drugs) humans in all of comics. So props to him.  "

Bruce isn't stronger then a Spartan, you have to remember that a Spartan can weigh around half a ton, so they're able to move ridiculously fast with all of that armor on.  "
He's stronger than a spartan out of armor. They suit becomes light when it is activated.
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#6  Edited By Logic_and_Debate

Both have normal gear. Battle takes place in an abandoned town. Win by K.O. or death.
BTW, my friend wanted this, so it's not mine.

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#7  Edited By Logic_and_Debate
@Omarpool said:
"@Logic_and_Debate said:

" @Static Shock said:

" @Logic_and_Debate said:
" strength - bruce
speed - spartan
I don't think Bruce has a Spartan beat in strength. "
He does if the spartan is out of armor. A spartan can lift 3X their own body weight. As an adult, spartans weight about 286 pounds. Times that by 3 and you get about 860. Bruce can bench 1000 pounds. "
No. They could lift 3x their body weight when they were 14 and just getting used to the augmentations. Now I'm not sure. Their armor is close to a ton and they carry it around easily. Though I'm not sure how strong exactly they are without their armor. Gotta get back to you on that. "

No, they can carry around their armor because when it's turned on, it becomes light.
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@Static Shock said:
" @Logic_and_Debate said:
" strength - bruce
speed - spartan
I don't think Bruce has a Spartan beat in strength. "

He does if the spartan is out of armor. A spartan can lift 3X their own body weight. As an adult, spartans weight about 286 pounds. Times that by 3 and you get about 860. Bruce can bench 1000 pounds.
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#9  Edited By Logic_and_Debate

How often has KK fought off superman level beings?
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#10  Edited By Logic_and_Debate

How about the top 10 marvel martial artist?