LiquidPrince

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Not the movie itself. I absolutely adore the Nolan Batman Trilogy, and couldn't have imagined a more full circle satisfying conclusion to end it. There was only one thing the whole movie that I thought was a tad stupid. The fact that at the end John Blake revealed his name to be Robin... My friends don't seem to understand what I'm trying to say when we had this discussion about why it's stupid on the way back from watching the movie. It felt like, to me, to be the only sort of pandering (not exactly the right word, but I can't think of a better alternative) aspect of the movie. It's like Nolan didn't think that anyone would understand that this guy was going to be the new Robin if he named him Dick Grayson, or Jason Todd, or Tim Drake or whatever. One of the five (or four possible in this case) Robin's.

My friends argue that most people probably wouldn't recognize the name, and think that Blake was going to be the new Batman, but I argue that people would most likely find out that he was going to be Robin afterwards, and have that sort of "ohhhhhhh, damn that's so cool" moment when they figure it out. I don't know, if it's just me, but to name him Robin, is lacking subtlety. I mean for goodness sake, he never even used the word "Catwoman in the entire movie. Robin is the persona, not the name of the actual person... It's like Bruce saying, "maybe you should use my legal name, Mr.Bat" or Selina saying "Miss Cat." Too on the nose. Anyways, this didn't detract ANYTHING from my love of the movie, it was absolutely amazing. I just thought it was a bit weird.

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This is a tough one as I like both characters quite a bit. Although Batman and Spiderman have always been my favorite heroes. I say that if they just randomly met in an alley, Batman wouldn't be able to beat Hulk. The fight would last for a couple of minutes, Batman would size up hulk or try and steal a piece of his flesh or something and then probably escape. Then he would analyze Hulk's DNA and try and come up with some sort of counter.

Guess not?

I was so totally stoked for this, until I read that it was from 10 months ago. Then I just shattered. Damn. I lover her with a passion and she would be great in that role.

Sorry, MJ takes the cake for me. I knew about MJ and even Betty before I knew who Gwen was. MJ has always been to Spiderman what Lois is to Superman.

Something that happens simultaneously to Smallville. I would think that's pretty cool.

Not a fan of Hathaway as Catwoman. Nolan doesn't seem to know how to cast sexy women in his Batman movies. At least Hathaway can act, but a better combination of good actress and sexy would have been nice.

So I'm a sucker for a good super hero relationship, especially if I like the female character as much as I like the male one. Is there any Spiderman comic out there where MJ and Peter end up together and the comic ends in sort of a happy tone? I don't want a comic where they are already in a relationship. I'm more looking for something where it starts off as they are just friends, or maybe haven't even met, and then as the story progresses, they fall in love and then eventually end up together. I would also like it if the art looked relatively modern, along the lines of the early Ultimate Spiderman art or like the image below. Any thing fit the bill?

@Grim said:

@LiquidPrince: thats what "Nerfed" means. They softened them up so it would make sense for teenaged clark to beat them. You dont "temporarily Ward off" Darkseid by pushing his planet away. DS would have shown up and omega beamed Clarky for daring to defy his wishes. The fact that there was no fight between Clark and Darkseid is proof itself that they nerfed him. Brainiac. The only one i can think of who payed anywhere near his actual characters personalities or abilities was Bizzaro, and that was a stretch. Lois and Clark was a show that followed the rules it set down for itself, and didnt piss all over the the Superman mythos. It was character driven, and well written. Smallville was the absolute opposite of that. After season 5, They ignored the rules the show was based off of, and screwed over nearly every dc comics character they brought in (Mr. Mxy, Black Canary, Staro, Deathstroke, off the top of my head...). On top of that, every episode is driven by the 1990's looking action. And the writing was solid cheese. Im not saying the show was 100% horrible. Up until season 4 or so i really loved it. But i would never ever have considered it better than Lois and Clark.

I don't understand why people think that it needs to follow the mythology so closely. It is a fucking retelling of the Superman mythology. It respects what came before to a certain degree, but made it it's own thing.