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I like him because he did this.

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I didn't knew he was hated. If he is it's only because they've done nothing but misrepresent his character since the Civil War. I got into Avengers during the Busiek/Perez era and Wonder Man was absolutely awesome in that. I prefer his purple Kirby crackle form they gave him during that time. He is a flying brick but it's his visual that makes him interesting along with the nature and further potential of his ionic powers. He was always one of my favorite avengers and I loathe what they've done with him lately in a half-assed story.

His origins with the Avengers main team, his early West Coast Avengers stuff, his short series and the Busiek Wonder Man are the best renditions of the character. This is a guy who can match Mjolnir with his fists and fight Count Nefaria single-handed. Respect should be given.

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#3  Edited By Lion_Heart22

HO-LY FRIJOLES
I didn't exactly understand if Sentry being a fanboy committing self-insertion is the OP's theory or if it's canon but I think it's brilliant. It's like Inception for the cape genre. It totally explains how he was shoved down our throats as the best every guy who ever lived. I can totally see a story arc where the Marvel Universe becomes aware of this fact about Sentry and ultimately fights him in his true "reality alterer persona" to save their universe from being changed randomly on the whim of an ill-matured man. This would be a great meta-argument against the creators who have no respect for characters and their established history.

Perhaps at the end of the story a version of Sentry could survive, one that would exist entirely in the Marvel U's reality, not a reality changer but just a character. Someone who can begin anew with a clean slate and earn the right to become the hero Sentry originally strived to be.

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#4  Edited By Lion_Heart22

Jet Li is mainly a wushu stylist. Wushu, as a sport is mainly for demonstrations or Taolu competitions, where you perform a form (kata in japanese) against other competitors performing their own forms. Contact fighting in Wushu is called Sanda and it resembles kickboxing, except that you can use takedowns on your opponent, but no ground fighting. Jet Li won many a gold medal in his day and is a prodigy but I've not seen anywhere that he was a Sanda prodigy or that he has an impressive fighting record. Not only that but Sanda is a sporting event where you have rules and limits. Furthermore, Jet Li only focused on Northern Wushu styles. Wushu versions of traditional kung fu tend to be watered down and they have a lot of aerial tricks and backflips added to impress judges. Their goal is to win a tournament, not self-defense.

On the other side there is Bruce Lee, who learned Wing Chun from Ip Man, the greatest Wing Chun stylist ever. It is a southern Kung Fu style and there's hardly any beauty and aestheticism to it, it's all function. He used to get into fights all the time, which is why he learned kung fu, to defend himself, not for show. He also did boxing during his early years and became an amateur champion in his school. It is documented by various sources including Lee's own accounts, interviews with friends and collaborators that tell us that Bruce Lee routinely got into street fights and even had a record in China. Upon moving to the U.S he kept fighting people. During this time Lee thought Wing Chun wasn't enough anymore and sought to learn from as many fighting styles as he could and put them to the test. He studied other styles of Kung Fu such as Five Family Fist, Five Animals, Choy Li Fut, fencing, boxing, judo, Muay Thai, etc.

Upon becoming famous, even more and more people sought to fight Lee on the street so they could be the ones to claim having beaten the great Bruce Lee. One of them even broke into his home to challenge him. This man had true fighting experience, which occurs spontaneously and on the streets and not in a ring. One of his challengers later recounted that Lee's first move in their fight was to go for the eyes, since it's a "get badly hurt or hurt badly" situation. He trained several people including Joe Lewis, who is recognized as one of the greatest kickboxers to have ever lived. Lee is the real deal and not for show, simple as that. Not to mention he was someone who truly was at the peak of his physical fortitude.

Jackie Chan never learned any kung fu style formally. His training was for Chinese opera and showmanship, which would've included martial arts. Later on he got into learning some Southern styles but mainly for performance purposes. He is, however, extremely strong, agile and resilient.

I'm a big martial arts fan and come December I'll be undergoing my black belt test in the Five Family, Five Animal style of Kung Fu. Modern sport practices are ruining traditional martial arts IMHO so I know there's a big difference between a sportsman and a martial artist. If a man comes at you you don't kick him in the head, you jab him in the eyes and kick his knee in. Survival is what matters.

tl:dr: Bruce Lee.

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How are you liking Herc's new duds? I tried several times in the past to make redesigns of my own but I guess he always ended up looking like he was in 300. I think this new costume is a nice addition, a more superhero-esque look. It's also functional, since Herc is no longer protected by his godly powers (and he should get them back) he needs a bit more protection even from the elements.

However I don't think it has much staying power. Alas I do feel Hercules needs an update to his look but this may not be it. After all, his classic costume is really just based on Hercules films from old. What do you suggest for Herc's looks? Can he be visually updated the way Thor was?

Also why is there a G on his belt?


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Thor is most definitely better at fighting with an object the likes of war hammers, clubs or maces, since he's been wielding Mjolnir into every battle since times immemorial.
However Hercules is no slouch, I think Herc can prove to be Thor's competition even in armed combat. In addition to his Golden Adamantine Mace, Herc is also an expert archer who could give Hawkeye a run for his money and is well versed in other ancient weaponry, although he's always preferred unarmed combat.


In regards to h2h, Heracles is most definitely the superior force. He possesses supreme physical strength and invulnerability, but doesn't have other powers such as elemental control or flight. This makes him a far more experienced hand to hand fighter by necessity. He is practically the patron god of wrestling and pankratos which is an ancient greek martial art, and has had a lifetime to both practice and learn other things.

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They sure are an amazing force. It would be good if DC established the strength of the average atlantean. I'm thinking they're at least something like the Asgardians who could lift around 25 tons.

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Nope.

She should be dressed as a greek warrior not a swim suit model

@lilben42 said:

@jonny_anonymous: She should be dressed as a Greek warrior/superhero.

These guys know it. Even with her new origin I still see Wondy as a greek warrior. Look in google images for "Hoplite" and that's a basic template of what Wondy should look like, minus the helmet. I was actually just drawing a "redesign" of her for fun. It's basically an armored red top and a greek-like leather skirt, and some grieves on her legs. Hell, just look at Xena. She ripped off Wondy's outfit in essence and just changed the color. See the costume she wore when she visited Hephaestos and you got what is IMHO Wondy's best costume yet.

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Prior to visiting this thread, I didn't know about Wondy's new "god mode". It reminds me of Goku taking off his weighted bracers, shirt and boots to fight seriously. I have no idea how powerful Wondy is supposed to be in that state though. Until such a time when those questions are answered then I'd have to give Supes the edge on any fight he had against Wondy, clear head, blood lusted or not, because the fact is that Superman has shown on panel that he can exceed a hundred times the speed of light and lift the weight of the Earth almost effortlessly. Feats are feats. Wondy DOES have an edge against Supes, but it includes what would basically be "prep time". Diana has access to magical weaponry. Even in pre-Flashpoint her dagger could easily cut Superman in "For the Tomorrrow" because it was magic. Using magical weaponry could give Wondy a 50/50 chance, but in all other scenarios I'd give it to Supes at least 8 out of 10 times.

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#10  Edited By Lion_Heart22

People dissing this movie make me sick. Where was your unrepentant fanboyism when Batman hasn't worn anything even closely resembling to his comic book outfit in a movie, ever, or how Bane resembles anything except the real Bane from the comics? When was your outrage when Batman said he doesn't kill and then kills Ra's Al Ghul, Harvey Dent, most of the league of shadows, etc? Or before then, when he freely killed in Burton's films? Where was it when Avengers didn't care at all for civilian casualties, Iron Man kills normal humans left and right, or when Hulk "broke Harlem"? How many people do you think died then?

No, all of your complaints focus on this movie even though it is quite frankly the best superhero movie out there. It actually attempts at explaining Superman's conflicted nature and his self-doubt, while still delivering on the action and not being afraid of the source material. "OMG, he's not all american flag and boy scout!". Of course he isn't because a) this is a young Superman quite literally just starting on the whole superhero thing and b) Superman being an inflexible "holier than thou" boy scout is a cliche. Any true Superman fan knows it.

So, you spend years whining about Superman Returns being boring and hoping he would one day be allowed to punch someone on-screen, and when MOS comes around, you whine about the action and collateral damage. What the hell do you think would happen if two beings capable of shattering planets got into a fist fight in the modern world, with one of them actually trying to kill humans? Did you not see Clark taking the fight into orbit before being punched back by Zod?? How come you never whined about the destruction showed in the DCAU shows? Quite frankly I think this is just the last ditch attempt of recent Superman hate-wave to try and damage the character, and it's pathetic.

If you don't understand the ending then I'm sorry, perhaps if you had stopped taking negative notes on the movie to post on your blog and actually payed attention to the movie you'd realized that Zod is a broken man by the end. He's lost everything. There is no meaning in life for him anymore because he was created with the sole purpose of defending Krypton and it's people. When that was taken from him he became outright suicidal. He wanted to die fighting Clark, he said as much, and in the end forced him to kill him.
A lot of critics whine about the nostalgia, because this isn't "American Way Christopher Reeve". I'd like to remind them that in Superman II, Superman kills all the kryptonians in cold blood after having depowered them. He even lets Lois kill the woman, and expresses not a single ounce of regret over it. How is that nicer and less dark than Superman being forced by Zod himself into killing him and being torn by what he had to do in MOS? Because it was Christopher Reeve? Please.

So, go ahead. Whine, cry. It didn't stopped the film from being a success on all fronts and it won't stop Superman. Go ahead, the critics shall keep on hating and wallowing in their utter irrelevance. The rest of us. Well, I don't know about you, but I'm going to join him in the Sun.