Limilicious

I dunno. It just doesn't make sense for me to progress into a relationship without knowing the person more via being friends first. Jumping into a relationship with knowing little about the other is...interesting and sparks a lot of curiosity but the basis of what makes you think you like the other is very shallow. And there might be many things that you are unaware of and dislike about the person you think you like. Like what you show to a friend is different to what you show to the person you're going out on a date with, or at least that's how many people are.

@blackwind: Absolutely nothing. Moving or not, those alchemy works really fast. And there's also nothing stopping Ed from spamming rock arms like mad to compensate for a moving Winter Soldier. Or just make the dome of earth or a gigantic thick earth box to trap the Winter Soldier.

Here's my question, is this Sephiroth from FFVII only or like composite Sephiroth? There's still Sephiroth from Dissidia and shows mad skills.

@superdrummer: Because people don't listen and only believe that they want to.

@thelocust619: Lol. I'm sorry. I only played the reboot version and DMC3 but never reached pass like half the game. So...yeah.

@thesuperhuman: (Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol)

Fusions should be referring to Gogeta and Vegito since they are both fused characters and hence, fusions. So I don't think Beerus and SSG Goku can and will fuse.

• Goku - Strongest = SSJ3
• Gohan - Strongest = SSJ2
• Vegeta - Strongest = SSJ2
• Broly - Strongest = LSSJ
• Buu - Strongest = Majin Buu (First Appearance) (I'm assuming this.)
• Videl - Why is she even on this list?
• Goten - If you put Gotenks, why put Goten or Trunks?
• Trunks - If you put Gotenks, why put Trunks or Goten?
• Piccolo - Strongest = Kameccolo
• Gotenks - Strongest = SSJ3
• Cell - Strongest = Super Perfect Cell
• Metal cooler - Strongest = SSJ level

Without prep, you really only have three candidates that's on the same level: Goku, Buu, and Gotenks. If you're using the same Buu as I am assuming, then Goku > Buu, or at least that is what Goku claimed. And Gotenks > Goku. So Gotenks should win. But Goku is by far a better fighter. So Goku should still be able to win with much difficulty.

As for prep, with one year prep, it really depends and there's a lot of variables. Goku showed Goten/Trunks the SSJ3 transformation and they were able to obtain it easily. If given the same knowledge, would Gohan/Vegeta be also be able to obtain this form? This is just my baseless assumption but I feel that base Vegeta from EoZ might be stronger than base Goku with all those near death and possibly zenkai boosts. Even still, Vegeta has always shown to be the underdog when pitted against Goku. An example would be before the Cell Games and how they both had one day in the chamber and Goku reached FP SSJ and Vegeta only got to the buffy muscular version. That's not something Vegeta can bypass with hardcore training, as he tried and shown that many times already. (It's also called plot.) That leaves Gohan. If Gohan really trains and is able to go to a state near Mystic Gohan, then he might win it all. Then again, Goku and Gotenks would be training as well. And Gotenks has shown to be able to achieve the most power within the shortest time frame.

I'll go with Gotenks, then Gohan/Goku. Goku isn't in the other world anymore, so his training will drop down like crazy and Gohan has more potential than Goku too. Gotenks seems to be able to achieve a much stronger state than Goku and by so much that he'll be able to compensate for his lack in combat experiences.

Just saying that I find the movie total bull. It doesn't directly contradict with the well established DBZ universe, but it doesn't flow smoothly.

And OP basically told us the results/answers already, (Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformation CVers think they need to win lol). And that means, as ridiculous as it sounds, you can get Gogeta to fuse with Vegito using those earrings and ascend to a whole new level of ridiculousness. Heck, it's a battle between four characters where three of them contains a "Goku" in it. Mind as well fuse the "weaker" side (debatable) and make them stronger and more ridiculous. Depending on how you mix the names, you can get Vegeto, Gogeto, Gogito, or Vegeta back!! And then amp them up to SSJ3. Or even better, amp it up to SSG as the "Fusions can reach what ever theoretical transformations CVers think they need to win".

With that, you get SSG Vegeta ((Goku + Vegeta) + (Vegeta + Goku)) vs Beers and SSG Goku. I'm sure Vegeta can go 1 vs 2, np.

@stingerrain:

Good question though. Pure fight should mean that Vergil also loses a bunch of his "hax" abilities that was shown in the game right? By hax, I mean his angel/demon abilities. The ones that are similar to Dante's. If it just plain sword match, I gotta go with Sephiroth as well.

What's with the ridiculous scenario? The most "bloodlust" Goku ever got was when Krillin died after Piccolo "died". So, just getting Gohan or Chichi killed or tortured is more than enough to give Goku the bloodlust you want. You really don't need to go through all the silly details about ripping their arms off and whatnot.

Okay, that's besides the point. And let's take a look at what "bloodlust" really does in DBZ. Gohan, when fighting Frieza, was bloodlusted and got a huge boost in power. He also did the same against Raditz and Nappa. But that last like...one blast, or two, and then Gohan was totally out of juice. As for Vegeta, you can use that PIS from the movie, which I label as total BS. But that doesn't really demonstrate how strong Vegeta got as Beerus' power fluctuated a lot. He seems to use just enough to overpower his opponents. Besides that, Vegeta's other bloodlusted scenes mainly consist him going crazy and spamming ki blasts. Now for Goku, I mentioned it already. Goku's most bloodlusted scene is when Krillin died and he went Super Saiyan because it Super Saiyan required anger to fuel it.

Bloodlusted or not, it's not going to do much unless it allows Goku to achieve Super Saiyan 2. The other 2-3 forms of Super Saiyan were achieved through hardcore training and not really "anger" like how Super Saiyan 2 was. The most you'll get out of a "bloodlusted" Goku is a barrage of amped melee attacks or ki blasts. And that's it. It's not even going to last more than 1 minute in DBZ time frames (remember how the Frieza battle took like 5 episodes for 20 minutes or something like that?).

Now if you look at how strong Goku is at that time, he's around the same level as Vegeta. Even if I give you that Goku is stronger, it's not by much. Both Android 17/18 are considerably stronger than 19/20 and Vegeta/Trunks by a large margin. It's like Perfect Cell vs Vegeta before the Cell Games and Cell was just stomping Vegeta. That's basically what happened with 18 and Vegeta too. He wasn't just beaten but stomped.