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#1 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl: Yeah. The Amazon's aren't this peaceful perfect race who do no wrong.

#2 Posted by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackhawk000111: I don't think he wrote that in there to make the Amazon's bad people. It seems like the Amazon's have a sense of superiority over the world. They believe they have a better society, utopia, but we kind of believed it too. William Martson thought that women were the superior species. This is to show that a women based society can be just as bad or just as good as a male based society. There is no better gender. I feel like he could've shown it a better way. Diana ended that though.

#4 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@itheone: @boynerdgeek: @seekquaze: Hades is someone starved for love and who better to represent that than a child. As a child we all wanted to be loved we all wanted attention and to be cared for even if you didn't realize it. But Hades is incapable of being loved because he doesn't live himself. There is a scene where WW is padding the hole in her chest and saying it aches. That represents Hades hole inside him that he tries to fill by getting a new queen. When Ww shot him with Eros gun she was trying to get him to love himself while he was looking at his own reflection. It's one of the most symbolic things in Wonder Woman.

#5 Posted by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: Oh her new 52 character is very complex and also very developed from beginning to end. Along with a lot of other characters. I can't go into it here but I could post it somewhere else.

#6 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

1). Not story wise but in the writing. Both of the stories move at its own pace. Just as Breaking Bad can take a episode or two to focus more on the characters then the story Azzarello takes a few comic issues to focus on learning about Diana and the people around her.

2). Diana and Walt are both one of the most complex characters. People don't see it because they don't try to delve into her character but I have and she's one of the most intriguing heroes I've ever read about. There's too much to go into here but if you guys want me to post a character analysis on Diana I can.

3). They both have strong constant supporting casts. A great story is only as good as the characters inside of them and these two have an supporting cast that compliment each other immensely.

4). The smaller story arcs all make up one huge story arc that the creators have been building towards the whole time.

5). The emphasis on family in both stories. Walt did all this horrible stuff for his "family" and lost then in the end. Diana on the other hand lost her family and became closer to her new family.

I realize it's strange comparing a comic to a tv show but the similarities in writing are great. Especially between two very different stories. I can either be really wrong or really right.

#7 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

1). Not story wise but in the writing. Both of the stories move at its own pace. Just as Breaking Bad can take a episode or two to focus more on the characters then the story Azzarello takes a few comic issues to focus on learning about Diana and the people around her.

2). Diana and Walt are both one of the most complex characters. People don't see it because they don't try to delve into her character but I have and she's one of the most intriguing heroes I've ever read about. There's too much to go into here but if you guys want me to post a character analysis on Diana I can.

3). They both have strong constant supporting casts. A great story is only as good as the characters inside of them and these two have an supporting cast that compliment each other immensely.

4). The smaller story arcs all make up one huge story arc that the creators have been building towards the whole time.

5). The emphasis on family in both stories. Walt did all this horrible stuff for his "family" and lost them in the end. Diana on the other hand lost her family and became closer to her new family.

I realize it's strange comparing a comic to a tv show but the similarities in writing are great. Especially between two very different stories.

#8 Posted by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@scorpio_cassadine: @foamborn: Cliff Chiang drew him in as a joke but Ares is supposed to be an old man because Ares is supposed to represent the idea of war. The idea of war is an old and tired idea. With older men creating wars for young people to fight. It's funny because when Apollo and Ares are talking in the beginning all the younger people around are killing each other while this old man is just sitting there. One of the reasons Azzarello is one of the best writers and why Wonder Woman is the best story in the DCU.

#9 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

Many people complain about these two designs (Ares and Hades) because they think it takes away from the character but in actuality it adds more to the character. The designs are a reflection of the characters mentality. Here's my opinion on them:

Ares: He is the embodiment of war and the idea of war is an old and tired idea. The idea of war really doesn't change. No one likes war and nobody wants it around. Which is probably one of the reasons everyone hated Ares and why he hated himself. He brought death and destruction everywhere he went. I love that he was always drinking. I guess the question is why hasn't Diana done the same? Why hasn't she spread death everywhere she goes. Well because she's not consumed by hate. I doubt she hates anyone. I guess the question now is if war isn't about hate then what is it about? What is war really?

Hades: He is represented as a child which is very fitting for the character. As we saw in wonder woman #8, #9, #10. Hades is someone starved for love and who better to represent that than a child. As a child we all wanted to be loved we all wanted attention and to be cared for even if you didn't realize it. Hades wanted to be loved by anyone as long as he was loved. He didn't care if it was fake as long as he felt it. He's the embodiment of a child's needs. It's also interesting to see when Wonder Woman and Lennox broke off their deal with Hades and Poseidon, Poseidon got over it easily while Hades didn't. He wanted what he was promised and wouldn't stop til he got it, kind of like a temper tantrum.

Anyways just some theories on the characters by what I've observed. One of the reasons I live Azzarello's Wonder Woman story. I doubt you guys read it all. If you guys have any theories I'd love to hear them.

#10 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

Zuko murders. He was close to Azula and he isn't anywhere near her.