Lestenya

There's only one clear choice here, Scarlet Witch. I say kill her off early so she can never use her crazy powers to completely destroy reality.

So lately there's been a lot of weird things happening at Marvel. There has been an incredible amount of time/dimension travel in their comics. People are saying the ultimate universe is being destroyed, there's an X-Men team from the past, I may have heard incorrectly but I think that there's going to be another X-Men team from the future, Spider-Man 2099 is coming to the 616 Universe, and of course Ultron thing just happened. And we've got this big infinity event coming up. They're also canceling quite a few comics. It seems to me like Marvels planning something big and I was wondering what you guys are thinking about all this.

Personally I think Marvels trying to destroy every alternate universe so that they just have the 616.

I completely agree with you. I think a big contributing factor is that mutants in the marvel verse are now more acceptable than they once were. Before Chasm, and maybe even a few events before that, the X-Men banded together and formed these deep bonds because they didn't really have another option. They couldn't decide to join the Avengers or go out and public and be normal because a large portion of society hated them. Potential minor All New X-Men spoiler, but you really see this in #15 when young Scott and Bobby go out in public and and meet some people their age and only one person in a group of four freaks out that they're mutants. I think it's Scott makes the comment of how it's so strange for them to be accepted so easily by humans with them being from a time where all they had was each other.

Then again most of Marvel line is furthering itself more and more from the core of what they're about. Spider-Man is no longer the down on his luck guy who goes through the everyday troubles of the normal person, the Fantastic Four is no longer that dysfunctional family that is only held together be their love, the Avengers stopped being the superhero team that only comes together to fight the battles they can't do alone. Maybe that's just the day and age we live in now. People care less about character interaction and more about how big the bad guy is and how hard they punch.

As far as I'm concerned Superior has just turned into some government propaganda comic. With Ock setting up 24/7 city wide surveillance, his own army, and the approval of the government through non action. I mean how is it that NO ONE is saying hey Spider-Man can't have his own army garrisoned inside the city. All the while you have Slott sitting back and going "oh look how wonderful and SUPERIOR my Spider-Man is".

If a super villain was only as powerful as the greatest superhero, then they would easily defeat said villain because there are just so many superheroes. For instance in Harry Potter the only people powerful enough to fight Voldemort are Dumbledore and Harry Potter. However in the context of the marvel universe, instead of just Harry and Dumbledore being powerful enough, there would be countless others so Voldemort would never really be that big of a threat.

I also noticed this, however a friend pointed out that getting Mysterio is near impossible considering...

@Jorgevy said:

I like seeing good triumph over evil, even against amazing odds.

Exactly! You sir get it! After all the crap in life and honestly after five minutes of the news depressing me it's nice to sit back and relax and enjoy some good old fashion Hero saves the day!

@BR_Havoc said:

Yeah that does seem to be true I mean I love how Dan Slott says the whole universe will think of Spider-Man as this grand hero yet in the preview for the first issue he get punched once by SpeedDemon and says well I am leaving. So someone tell me how is he a hero again?

Agreed for Tony there was no consequences he ruined many peoples lives and nothing happened to him. Worst of all he seemed to not of even cared in the slightest because it was for his country. Lets hope in SSM since Peter is "dead" he can revisit that deal and get out of it. Lol something are like that and Stan Lee created my couples that are simple meant to be (Scott and Jean would be another) biggest issue with Sue and Reed they are at a point were you can not break them up if you did so you would destroy the fabric of the F4 title. As you can tell I am a pretty big supporter of the Richards family.

No matter what when Peter comes back, however he does it, he should remember before his deal with Mephisto. I mean the guy died...isn't that enough punishment? And as much as I don't like Sue and Reed, I realize they'll stay together and I don't expect them not to, i mean their entire life and that of the FF kind of in a way revolves around their marriage. Hopefully this next series will make like him a little better (but already it's not looking that way..) As for Tony...I honestly don't read Iron Man anymore and whenever I read him in anything (like Avengers) I feel this sudden urge to stop reading...there might be a correlation. I like him a little better in the Ultimate verse. I might just have to go back to reading the Ultimate verse...Depends on if New Avengers is super awesome or not.

"It’s the 50 anniversary of the Children of the Atom! When Spider-Man turned 50, Peter Parker lost his spot to Doctor Octopus…what do we have planned for Marvel’s mutants?

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/story/19892/13_reasons_to_look_forward_to_marvel_in_2013#ixzz2GmIIyEex"

Also this ^ worries me.

@BR_Havoc said:

Yeah he was wise cracking as Spidey and I have never felt it went over the edge to were he comes across as a jerk or you just want him to shut up (Love Deadpool but sometimes they need to give him less jokes). Alpha is not hero at his core and that is his biggest problem he is like many were as teen's angry at the world (Especially now he lost his powers) and I do not think he could be a hero let alone a respected hero, but with this silly mini series coming out I bet Ocktospidey will be like everyone deserves a second chance so why not Alpha and that attitude is going to get old fast. I mean didn't Ocktospidey punch someones jaw off? who is he to be couching someone to be a hero?

I see it the same way Iron Man was ruined in the Civil War storyline he was unlikable and controlled his team like he was some sort of puppet master. He ruined Peters life and I think people should blame him for the train wreck of OMD because if not for the un masking no one would of had to think of that idea. Were Reed on the other had was thinking of his family first that is a noble thing so I can not hold it against the character and the writers that made his personality switch during the arc. I may of not liked what he was becoming but in the end he saved his wife's life and showed he was still the same person that Sue loves. Well I remember reading old F4 comics and they show Sue and Reed in university and he was like the stud on campus and she was surprised that he chose her. Honestly tho I look at the story of how Stan Lee made the Fantastic Four and I am pretty sure he based Reed off himself (hair is a dead give away) and Sue of his wife, so if that was true there was always that fact that they were created to be together.

From what we've already seen of Superior, he's kind of mental. One minute he's Doc Ock arrogance and all then the next he's saving someone, then the next he's punching peoples jaws off...

I think what what irritates me the most about Iron Man was that Post Civil War after all he had done...there were no consequences, he was the Director of SHIELD and he was perfectly fine. Meanwhile Spider-Man is making deals with the Devil... And I completely agree that Reed and Sue were created to be together, and I think that's what bothers me. It feels like their together because their suppose to be.

@BR_Havoc said:

People did not freak out when Johnny died because he had a heroes death in every sense. He sacrificed himself for his family its a very noble thing to do. Where Spidey's was nothing like that it was quick and left you scratching you head wondering if there was a printing error. No its just Marvel wants a new smart ass teenage hero and Alpha fits the bill, problem is does anyone like him? I mean he kind of shows what is wrong with the youth of the world. Dan Slott has put everything on the line here it will make or break his run. Ether he will be a master mind that crafted an amazing story or he will be the guy that screwed up Spider-Man for another era of comic fans. I guess time will tell now.

See I am on the opposite side of the fence. I love Sue and Reed as a couple in fact I think that is the most important part of the Fantastic Four comic. Well I always remember an old what if comic were it was what if Sue died. Science is Reeds plaything were Sue is his anchor in life. She keeps him balanced because if he loses that balance he could be deadly. I think what killed Reed as a good person in many peoples eyes is he was unlikable in the Civil War well he did sacrifice himself for Sue in the end so he loves her to death :p, Iron Man was much the same but he got good press by the movies being so successful and getting a comic that showed him in a good light (I will admit I still hate Iron Man for the Civil War he was a monster in it). I agree with you I believe its like half the editors want couples the other half don't so they screw around till one side give in.

That's a good point about dying a heroic death, kinda like USM Peter.And the thing about Spidey was he wasn't a smart ass teenager, for the most part he was really only a smart ass when he put on the costume. He was still respectful as Peter. I don't really mind that Alpha's a smart ass, because most people are when they're a teen...it's he's not a Hero. He's this uber over powered super hero that cared more for fame than anything. I mean Spider-Man comes along and says i'll teach you and eventually you'll be an avenger most people would be like #*%@ Yeah! I'll do whatever you say! But Alpha's like nah ima already better than all you...Who really wants to read about an asshole? (Slott that's directed at you...) Cuz I certainly don't. I can just look out my window and pick a random person if i want that...

Civil War ruined Iron Man for me, absolutely ruined. From manipulating Spidey (cuz let's face it Peter IDOLIZED Tony Stark...) to just his entire plan... Reed not so much because I can understand that in reality I'd make the same decision if I had a family. Also there's no reason for him to REALLY oppose it seeing has everyone knows who the Fantastic Four are...See I always felt like Sue got with Reed because she HAD to. She HAD to get with someone on the team and it wasn't gonna be her brother or the Thing..so it HAS to be Reed. And then they just kinda worked from there. That's just my opinion though. I know a lot of people disagree, but I'm an American and as a result I'm very opinionated..