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#1 Edited by LeeSensei (385 posts) - - Show Bio

He hasn't.

#2 Posted by LeeSensei (385 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Ares and the Thing are out of their weight class here.

#3 Edited by LeeSensei (385 posts) - - Show Bio

What? Creating the 9 realms not a feat of power? Come on now...Be honest if the Norse gods didn't create it but the Greek gods did, you'd be singing a different tune now. Not a feat of power...

No. I wouldn't. With a character like TOAA it is a feat of power because he created it from nothing. Odin, Vili and Ve created it out of something that was already there. They didn't use their own power to do it.

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@bodinson said:

@leesensei said:

@princearagorn1 said:

@leesensei said:

@princearagorn1: Actually, he arguably can. Hercules is one of the most powerful characters in the myths.

Not against someone who created the nine worlds from a giant he killed.. Not to mention he's experienced in runes as well, has, probably, more experience, and wiser (lacking one eye thanks to it though). Lastly, way more awesome :D

Creating the nine worlds wasn't magic IIRC. He made it out of the parts of the dead Ymir with the help of his brothers. I can't remember what the runes do. He might be more experienced. He has wisdom and I know he's smart in the myths, but Hercules is pretty smart in the myths too. Physically Hercules is his superior. And furthermore... immortality. The Greek Gods don't die and the Norse ones do. I think it's pretty debatable.

So? Zeus didn't create it period. Everything was already created before Zeus freed his brothers and became gods of the respective "realms".

Zeus, Hades and Poseidon couldn't even have won the war against the Titans if it wasn't for Prometheus(a Titan that saw the future and helped the gods) and in other accounts Cyclops and other Giants. Cyclops gave the helm to Hades, he gave the Trident to Poseidon and he gave the power of thunder and lightning to Zeus(Which ultimately won the war for the gods). What about the god monster Typhon, all the gods ran in fear when he approached, some accounts puts Zeus into that category as well until Athena got him to fight Typhon, in other accounts it was only Athena and Zeus that stayed behind while the rest ran off and disguised themselves so that Typhon can't find them!! After a long and drawn out battle Typhon was finally defeated, banished and Mount Etna thrown on top of him.

Odin on the other hand destroyed Ymir and other Giants effectively on his own and used the remains of Ymir to create worlds, realms and possibly even the Universe as a whole. Yes...I know you're going to say but Odin had Vili and Ve with him, but they're not so much different gods as they were different aspects of the same god called Odin. Kind of like the Christian holy trinity, The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost... Odin(Spirit/Knowledge) , Vili(Will) and Ve(Sanctify), three "different" aspects of the same god called Odin.

In the Greek vs Norse mythology the main difference comes from the courage of the gods, like I mentioned above, most ran in fear of Typhon, where as in Norse mythology they all know that most of them will die when Ragnarok comes, even then they still face it head on knowing their ultimate "mortality". The Greeks are said to be immortal but still run...

Creating the 9 realms isn't a feat of power.

So? Thor didn't create Mjolnir? Does that mean that any fights he wins... credit goes to the dwarves?

What's your point about Typhon? He was described as being so tall that his head brushed the stars. And Zeus beat him.

I'm pretty sure Vile and Ve helped Odin kill Ymir. Zeus killed Giants too. They weren't separate people. And yeah they are immortal. So is Typhon. None of them die, but they can be imprisoned. The Asgardians die. And Zeus has many displays of reality warping powers.

@bodinson said:
@leesensei said:
@princearagorn1 said:
@leesensei said:

@princearagorn1: Actually, he arguably can. Hercules is one of the most powerful characters in the myths.

Not against someone who created the nine worlds from a giant he killed.. Not to mention he's experienced in runes as well, has, probably, more experience, and wiser (lacking one eye thanks to it though). Lastly, way more awesome :D

Creating the nine worlds wasn't magic IIRC. He made it out of the parts of the dead Ymir with the help of his brothers. I can't remember what the runes do. He might be more experienced. He has wisdom and I know he's smart in the myths, but Hercules is pretty smart in the myths too. Physically Hercules is his superior. And furthermore... immortality. The Greek Gods don't die and the Norse ones do. I think it's pretty debatable.

So? Zeus didn't create it period. Everything was already created before Zeus freed his brothers and became gods of the respective "realms".

Zeus, Hades and Poseidon couldn't even have won the war against the Titans if it wasn't for Prometheus(a Titan that saw the future and helped the gods) and in other accounts Cyclops and other Giants. Cyclops gave the helm to Hades, he gave the Trident to Poseidon and he gave the power of thunder and lightning to Zeus(Which ultimately won the war for the gods). What about the god monster Typhon, all the gods ran in fear when he approached, some accounts puts Zeus into that category as well until Athena got him to fight Typhon, in other accounts it was only Athena and Zeus that stayed behind while the rest ran off and disguised themselves so that Typhon can't find them!! After a long and drawn out battle Typhon was finally defeated, banished and Mount Etna thrown on top of him.

Odin on the other hand destroyed Ymir and other Giants effectively on his own and used the remains of Ymir to create worlds, realms and possibly even the Universe as a whole. Yes...I know you're going to say but Odin had Vili and Ve with him, but they're not so much different gods as they were different aspects of the same god called Odin. Kind of like the Christian holy trinity, The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost... Odin(Spirit/Knowledge) , Vili(Will) and Ve(Sanctify), three "different" aspects of the same god called Odin.

In the Greek vs Norse mythology the main difference comes from the courage of the gods, like I mentioned above, most ran in fear of Typhon, where as in Norse mythology they all know that most of them will die when Ragnarok comes, even then they still face it head on knowing their ultimate "mortality". The Greeks are said to be immortal but still run...

greeks are cowards imo and nords are bad asses.

Spartans, Macedonians and Romans buddy. Spartans, Macedonians and Romans.:)

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@princearagorn1 said:

@leesensei said:

@princearagorn1: Actually, he arguably can. Hercules is one of the most powerful characters in the myths.

Not against someone who created the nine worlds from a giant he killed.. Not to mention he's experienced in runes as well, has, probably, more experience, and wiser (lacking one eye thanks to it though). Lastly, way more awesome :D

Creating the nine worlds wasn't magic IIRC. He made it out of the parts of the dead Ymir with the help of his brothers. I can't remember what the runes do. He might be more experienced. He has wisdom and I know he's smart in the myths, but Hercules is pretty smart in the myths too. Physically Hercules is his superior. And furthermore... immortality. The Greek Gods don't die and the Norse ones do. I think it's pretty debatable.

#6 Posted by LeeSensei (385 posts) - - Show Bio

@princearagorn1: Actually, he arguably can. Hercules is one of the most powerful characters in the myths.

#7 Posted by LeeSensei (385 posts) - - Show Bio

The Classic Mythology Gods win.

#8 Posted by LeeSensei (385 posts) - - Show Bio

@warcry80 said:

@boschepg: Exactly!! people kill me with this crap about beings like Thor walking in the Sun or characters surviving black holes and quasars and yet they bleed or get hurt by punches and swords.

But when a Anime or Manga chracter is in battle with them all of a sudden they wont be harmed by any attack they throw.

Seriously i ask again are punches from beings like Hulk, Doomsday, Lobo,and Hercules equal to or more powerful than Supernovas?? I think not!!

Your low balling here. These aren't regular punches. They're punches that can destroy worlds.

And I'm a huge Bleach fan. I think it's the best manga out right now. But Yamamoto isn't as hot as the sun. That was hyperbole. If he was he would have destroyed much more than the Seireitei with his heat.

If you were to put characters like Arale or the guys from Saint Seiya against Doctor Doom... they'd stand a chance against Doctor Doom. Many of them could stomp him. But Aizen isn't one of those characters.

#10 Edited by LeeSensei (385 posts) - - Show Bio

If I was a writer I would make Hercules his at least his physical equal, but I'm not. The Hulk's the strongest. The Hulk Hercules would be his I think the Hulk's the strongest not count Sub-Skyfather level characters and higher.