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I don't know if you guys are aware, but Ares in the film was massively nerfed, the guy was supposed to crack spacetime. I don't why they chose to have him weaker, but ultimately, nerfing him means nerfing Diana.

Here's a link to the concept artist who explains it:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2z2OJ

You can check his other Ares concept here:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/AR9vW

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/LV5Jl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gufDpjT14jc

These ideas are not that bad.

If it was for me, the soldiers in the village would have been enhanced with Maru's gas, WW would have faced a bigger challenge. Then Luddendorf would have benefited from a stronger version of the gas and the fight would have happened in an open setting, not in a small space. All of that with better hand to hand choreography.

Then Ares appears in his intangible form, they fight, she unleashes her full godly powers, she attacks him by flying and so on, but Diana comes to realizes that he is a concept, an idea, brute force won't work. So she defeats him by opposing him her ideas.

Of course you need exceptionnal CGI for this to work and we all know that CGI was not that good in this movie.

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I generally agree with what you said TrueThemyscira. But just because she is not the "perfect feminist" ideal, doesn't mean that she is not feminist, it could/should be better.

I wish the studio could read posts such as yours (and others) to improve their depiction of WW and the Amazons.

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You guys should read Wilson's A-Force run. It's short (4 issues), but she can write powerful characters.

Doesn't mean that I want her on WW tho.

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@chazzer said:

@DammeFavour: I'm never gonna the logic behind statues fighting back

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Its simple if you look at it unbiased.

-Strange has auto shields

-Thor has lightning cloak

-Wanda's reaction speed can smother an explosion

-Hulk don't need help

-Hela don't need help

-Iron Man will need help

An exemple, bold part: Chazzer is trying to make it seems that Wanda's reaction speed is greater or at least equal to an explosion.

What she did was putting her TK around an specific area.

She would not be able to tag Superman.

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Ok, it's debunk time.

Wonder Woman did cut Steppenwolf at the end.

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You can clearly see that there's no blood on him before, while there is after.

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I don't know who wins, and frankly, I don't really care, but the MCU wank here is off the charts.

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A needle in the eye is just uncomfortable? loooool A grain of salt is uncomfortable, not a needle, it hurts badly, and you will have some severe vision problems.

The sniper whole body was up there, she had not choice but to jump. Why destroy the whole church? It doesn't make sense, these are 2 different things, attacking him on the ground is the best option.

Doomsday tanked a nuke, and yet is arm got cut by the sword, and you use tanking an exploding truck as evidence? No part of this guy or his suit can withstand the sword.

You do realise that it happened before she got all her divine powers right? That's why she needed help. She is much more powerful by the end of the film. Did you see the jump she made in Paris?

You established nothing, his tendon is about the size og Doomsday's arm, you know it, and you know it get cut .

How is he tagging her when she is running? you still haven't replied.

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@lannister: he has a helmet on so the needle analogy doesn't work.

Something that big she'll definitely try attacking it higher up. It she'll use the lasso to bring it down to her. Either case she loses.

Her super speed is only in short bursts. And get sword won't do any significant damage to him since it's so small.

She stops at 2

The needle is just an exemple of how she could hurt him. And that visor is not resisting a aegis effect.

No no, you choose to believe she would jump on him because it's the more conveniant for you. She has the avantage on the ground, why lose it?

His Achille's tendon would be approximatively as thick as Doomsday'arm, but not as durable...it gets cut.

I disagree that it's just a short burst, but let's admit it is, so what? Once she is close to is tendon, what can he do? The time for him to move, his tendon is cut.

You still haven't replied, how is he going to tag her when she runs?

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@motm: he ripped a wing of an airplane and swung it sound like a baseball bat with one hand. That's more than what she could do.

That might be the case if the sizes of each athlete are comparable. But in this case, Scott clearly has the advantage. He has better leverage because he's so much bigger than her and stronger. Not to mention his core will be much bigger and stronger than Diana's due to his size. He just has too much to work with for her to lasso his hand and be able to bring him down.

What I'm trying to say is why did she lower her senses to look at the bomb? She should have stayed using her super speed to take out all the gunmen and then dispose of the bomb. But instead she stalls and looks at the bomb long enough for a normal guy with normal human speed to walk up on her casually and hit her in the head with his gun. That's a poor use of her abilities. And it suggests limitations to get super speed.

His density did change. He took explosions with no damage it concern and was only knocked over by a double team flying punch from both Tony and Rhodes. If his physicality doesn't change when he gets bigger then the double punch should have knocked his head clean off, unless you're suggesting that even in his normal size he can take a double punch like that and only get knocked over. He obviously gets stronger and denser to match his size.

She stops at 2

The explosions were not on him, i already proved it to you.

Tell me, how is going to grab her? How is he going to even tag her? He never fought someone running as fast as her.

How is going to prevent her from cutting is achille' tendon?