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#1 Edited by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

He dodged each one individually. I'll try to find high-res version later. Anyway that doesn't change the point. Spideys perception and reflexes are way too sharp for Neji. And that's just movie, without more ridiculous examples (which, by the way I pulled from a six-year old respect thread), where his Other powers are still legal and he has even further enhanced speed, strength, vision and could sense his surroundings with his body hair, detect vibrations with his webs and instantly know any species of spiders he encounters.

And by the way, why the hell I'm the only one posting feats and scans here? I've read\watched Naruto, so I know that Neji is a badass, but guys, put a little effort in it! One video with Kidomaru won't do it, come on, get some manga pages with explanations, because until now I have only your word that his Vacuum Palm is "precise" and "penetrative".

#2 Edited by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Nevermind, SMvsFirelord is indeed unrelated, unless Spidey fights Vegeta. What related is :

That's about three bullets point blank. Unless Neji can move his arms faster than a bullet (which is SuperSonic), he's not laying a finger on Spidey.

#3 Posted by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@dngn4774 said:

You just brought up Spiderman's most despised feat, that's considered PIS on the writer's part so it shouldn't count

Yeup, I know. That's why I said he defeated him because Spidey is the main character.

#4 Posted by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@dngn4774 said:

No one's mentioning Spiderman's healing and durability

I'm mentioning it constantly! @__@

@Theorder14 said:

@Kyle_Dornez: elaborate?

This is Firelord /firelord/29-7108/ . He's a Herald of Galactus, and cosmic entity on his own right. Fought in Annihilation war, wields Power Cosmic - all that stuff. He had a misfortune of fighting Spiderman in Spidermans title. Spiderman did this:

#5 Posted by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Well he did beat Firelord because he's the main character, so I suppose yes, he can =3

#6 Posted by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Well duh, now you've answered your own question. Spidey will win because he's the main character.

#7 Edited by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@Theorder14: And he see these nerves how exactly? As far as it was shown his X-ray vision represents humans as shapes, lightening only their chakra pathways and tenketsu and these pathways even in-universe Naruto are developed only in trained ninjas, who can mould chakra and perform jutsu. There were even an authopsy somewhere, where it was proven that supposed saboteur is in fact just a set-up, because his chakra pathways were undeveloped, meaning he was not a ninja. And the supposed "nerve pinch" is actually Hyuga clan shutting down this pathways, meaning they are exclusively focused on fighting other ninjas (which is logical, in-universe at least). As we already established, even Way of The Spider kung-fu Spidey hardly ever used any sort of ki\chi\chakra or any internal energy that can be classified as chakra for purposes of detecting it with Byakugan, meaning he simply doesn't have any tenketsu to block and paralyze. And simple internal trauma Spiderman can shrug off long enough to punch out Neji.

And what traps would Neji create on spot? Exploding tags? Kunais with exploding tags? Wires with exploding tags? Or wait, I got it - he will use more exploding tags! By the way how are that eyes of his feeling in a cloud of acrid smoke, concrete dust and powdered glass? Going after Spiderman with a throwing weapon is such silly idea that even Bullseye doesn't try that.

And Spiderman doesn't need to detect Neji - even though he has Spider sence, he will just probe the area with his webs, and wait. It's Neji would the one who would strain his eyes in the smoke.

@Theorder14 said:

Y. spiderman dodge one bullet. as if i haven't seen that b4

Well... Okay,

There's more where this came from. There are fights with Quicksilver and Speed Freak, so sorry, Neji has nothing at Spidey speed. By the way, Mythbusters tested if it's possible to dodge a bullet after it was fired. It turned out that no, it is not.

PS, I'm going to leave now for a couple of hours to get some fresh air. Don't start victory feast without me.

#8 Edited by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@Theorder14: I don't exactly see how Vacuum Palm and Shocker blasts are different. Both are essentially shred their opponent from the inside, and if Vacuum Palm was supposed to be "precise", then I think they shouldn't portray it as a huge full-body blast.

If you want to get technical, the only reason why Neji can target vitals of his opponent is because Byakugan allows him to see chakra and internal chakra pathways. And since Spiderman doesn't utilize either of them, Gentle Fist would lose a huge deal of its power. And unlike Sharingan, Byakugan doesn't grant actual precognition, so again it's a question of speed. And by the way, Kidomarus spiders and kunais were slower than bullets.

And Spiderman's stamina is superhuman as well. He can come at Neji for hours, without even approaching close enough for a strike. He'll surely can wait until Nejis chakra runs out. And since Nejis entire fighting style is based around chakra, he will eventually run dry. Spidey is smart enough to figure that out. The worst what could happen is probably he'll run out of jokes and will have to borrow some from Deadpool.

So basically it comes to this: Spiderman can take one hit from Neji, but Neji can't take one hit from Spiderman. Because Spiderman would punch him into next week. And he's quick enough to approach and make one hit. Because, well:

#9 Posted by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@Theorder14 said:

Yay, guess i won :D

Hah, don't celebrate too soon, even the strongest of us need their nighttime rest once a week =3 Timezones would do that. Now I'm fresh, and I made some research >=3

@Theorder14 said:

@Kyle_Dornez:
skip to 15.35 in the video, using prediction, precision and timing + greater h2h and byagukan should allow him to tag spidey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeHrwY9okV4@Batman242 said:

@Kyle_Dornez said:

@Theorder14: Yeah, that's assuming that he will hit Spidey with Gentle Fist.

\checks out Mountain Crusher on crunchyroll\ Eh, Spiderman has been hit harder than that... His blunt force resistance is basically as high as he needs to.

That's totally different. Neji is attacking your body's insides. He doesn't just punch you like everyone else does. He's aiming for pressure points inside your body to shut it down. I'm pretty sure Spidey has no defense for that.


Well, *He's been hit harder* were those *hits* ever infused with chakra?

Well, that's basic Gentle Fist technique. I'm not exactly sure how this blast works on distance, and if it is then why the hell all other ninjas don't do that, but wiki implies that it works, so lets believe it for a moment. So essentially it allows Neji to punch you in the guts with a simple touch, right? Now, what this "vacuum palm" thing reminds me of?.. Ah, right! It's basically the description of Shockers gear - "This creates a series of rapid-succession high-pressure air blasts that result in a series of powerful impacts. This allows the Shocker to both effectively throw long range vibrational punches from a distance, creating destructive vibrations that can crumble solid concrete and cause extensive damage to the human body and its internal organs, as well as throw shock waves which vibrate the structure of something in order to weaken or destroy it."

And guess what? Spidey had been blasted point-blank with the stuff, and sprang back on the next panel like it was nothing:

#10 Posted by Kyle_Dornez (250 posts) - 1 month, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@Theorder14: Yeah, that's assuming that he will hit Spidey with Gentle Fist.

\checks out Mountain Crusher on crunchyroll\ Eh, Spiderman has been hit harder than that... His blunt force resistance is basically as high as he needs to.

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