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@krauser99: Yes, but Wolverine wasn't out, and the fight wasn't over. If Cap didn't have help, the fight would have ended just like every other confrontation he's had with Wolverine. With Wolverine as the winner.

Truth be told I don't recall ever Wolverine knocking out Cap for a legit win. They always stalemated and have advantages and disadvantages on some times or others. But never a winner.

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@krauser99: Yeah Iron Fist has gotten better since their fight and I meant the one-shot in Enemy of the State.

Agreed but Cap has gotten better to and seems to have even rapid healing now a days. You mean when Logan was being controlled and then Cap one shot him? Logan was taxed "out" I believe from other characters.

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#3  Edited By krauser99

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@night4345 said:

@krauser99: Cap can't hang with Iron Fist at all. Wolverine has one shot him with a kick while fatigued and dodged his shield slam and slashed his straps while lacking the striking power to knock Logan down and outclassed slightly physically and martially. A serious Deadpool while giving a good fight lacks the stats and power to keep up and only his healing factor to keep him in the game.

Actually he can and did in the past though Danny IF was limited at the time and he held back in the beginning but ended up using his best attack on Cap in the end. But Cap tanked it with his shield. Wolverine did something impressive with the straps but Cap did something impressive right back. You cite one but not the other. There was no one shot in that fight of AvsX and Cap was not KO'ed. DP weapons/healing ability lets him hang for sure.

You seem to be missing the part where Giant Man came to help Cap before Cap hit Wolverine

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Wrong. Cap hit Logan before GM interrupted.

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@krauser99: Cap can't hang with Iron Fist at all. Wolverine has one shot him with a kick while fatigued and dodged his shield slam and slashed his straps while lacking the striking power to knock Logan down and outclassed slightly physically and martially. A serious Deadpool while giving a good fight lacks the stats and power to keep up and only his healing factor to keep him in the game.

Actually he can and did in the past though Danny IF was limited at the time and he held back in the beginning but ended up using his best attack on Cap in the end. But Cap tanked it with his shield. Wolverine did something impressive with the straps but Cap did something impressive right back. You cite one but not the other. There was no one shot in that fight of AvsX and Cap was not KO'ed. DP weapons/healing ability lets him hang for sure.

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@bat_girl_cc: They definitely aren't. The Spiders and Iron Fist outclass them heavily. Wolverine off the top of my head took Cap down in one kick and dodged a shield slam and cut his shield straps

Cap was not KO'ed though or out. After that Cap hit him with a shield bonk to his head after he was able to dodge a claw strike where Cap made Logan get stuck in the wall of the plane. They both did something impressive to one another there. Though Cap got winded IIRC and Logan due to his healing factor seemed better off.

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#7  Edited By krauser99

@krauser99: Cap can't hang with Peter, Kaine, Wolverine and Iron Fist's stats with nothing to compensate like T'Challa does. Deadpool despite his healing factor is in the same boat as Cap. New-52 Batman... we'll see as he gets more feats but he's getting closer. Cass' speed is comparable to them, striking feats are very good, and her body reading allows her to play on their level. Her lack of protection like BP and Deathstroke is what gives them the win over her IMO. Though she can at least get a stalemate or slight majority on Pre-52/New-52 Slade.

Cap's super solider stats can hang with Wolverine and Iron Fist. As his special shield, enhanced physcials and enhanced mind is what helps him compensate. Although in a one vs one Cap does better against IF then Logan in a counter type match IMO. While Logan counters both Cap and Danny in a vs but even this is debatable with the fans. But there all close to one another. You are seriously underestimating Deadpool as well. I can see him not getting the top or second due to his non-serious manner though. But a serious Deadpool is legit.

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#8  Edited By krauser99

@night4345 said:
@bat_girl_cc said:

Where are Batman, Cassandra Cain, Captain America, Deadpool?...

Black Panther in 3rd? are you serious?...

Popularity votes...whatever.

Batman, Cap, and Deadpool aren't on these guys level. Cass I think would be if not for durability issue which is why Black Panther is here along with his weapons allowing him to fight on their level.

Super Soldier Cap and Deadpool are for sure. Cass less so in certain areas, as she does not have the crafty/tech savy/science of Bruce. But she makes up for it in other areas kind of like Daredevil.

Batman in Nu52 is starting to be very impressive. Kicking through motorcycles and a suit that can handle missile explosions. The King of the Streets also may not be a vs hero type of thing. Might be a total power level reflection on what they bring to the streets including weapons/resources/connections/teams etc etc.

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