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@darkseid1006: With outside help Jon alone would be a huge problem but here he doesn't have any. Even then, you've got 3 people who can at least challenge him in the prep department along with 6 others who aren't too shaby. The JL goes down though i'm sure that it'd be a kick-ass brawl.

@darkseid1006: This scenario though depends on far too many variables that mostly include outside help. Doom is a prideful man but he is also a logical one. I doubt that he'd turn on the others while the fate of his planet hangs in the balance. Besides, nowadays he's trying to be a "hero" and he already has an understanding with these people.Hell, Valeria is currently staying with him. They may not be the most "stable" team, but they are united by the fact that if they slip up then the whole of reality is at stake. Therefore, they are not allowed to fail, they have to prevail.

And in this scenario, it's current versions only. If it was a "just add the most powerful versions" thing then you'd have Silver Age Supes, Silver Age Fate and Parallax Hal on the same team. No, it's current versions only. And even if it was Hellblazer John in this scenario I can't see him playing as much a pivotal role as he would play against a guy from his own field. He's used to having to deal with Hell Lords and other supernatural beings but have we ever seen him deal with men that are close to Godhood? He mostly depends on others' pride and ego. Thing is, Doom and Strange managed to find a loophole and save Doom's mother's soul from Mephisto himself.Strange has dabbled enough with such cosmic beings that his name is known and feared thoughout the universe. The Living Tribunal did say that he was the only man to break the bonds of his imprisonment. I'm not saying that he can beat the Tribunal but you get the idea.

As I said before, the Illuminati have a crap-ton of bombs in their arsenal. Only one is enough to destroy a planet. I'm sure that with a bit of Strange's magic and tech they can be cloaked so that they can't be identified by the others. And then, just before they transport to the HoJ they blow up DC earth and are done with it. Mind you this is an extreme measure but it could still happen, though that defeats the whole purpose of a battle.

The way i see it in a straight up brawl, after 5 hours worth of prep the Illuminati can take almost any team. They can attack them telepathically, through magic, through their "armies", etc...They just have a crap ton going for them.

@jacthripper: That is quite true, I have to agree.

@darkseid1006: If they are allowed to call for help then Strange calls the Living Tribunal, Infinity, Eternity,etc... JonCon is a very, very formidable foe (he's on par with the Doctor on the prep department) but you've got Doom, Reed and T'Challa in the same team. Add Tony, Xavier, Britain and Strange and Jon is outmatched in the prep department. The numbers are just too many.

Classic JonCon was a damn beast but is current Jon that good? I read the first few issues of the Nu52 series and it didn't grab me. Besides, doesn't Doom own 2 Infinity Gauntlets currently? I'm sure these guys will find a way to make them work in different universes as well. Really, these guys have a ton of weapons of destruction in their arsenal. Or they could just sent all the bombs in the DC U and blow them up (it won't be as simple as that, Strange will put some magical defences, etc...).

@jacthripper: Current Hal is in charge of the GL corps and doesn't answer to any Guardians (though it's been a while since I last read GL, I dropped it during the Lights Out story) so I'm thinking that he would be the ideal space guy.

@spectre4life: They all have 5 hours worth of prep time.

@darkseid1006: Small but effective. Honestly, I would like DC to do something like that. New Avengers is my favorite current Marvel book ( i just hope that after Hickman leaves it doesn't get cancelled) so i'd like to see something similar with DC characters.

Back to the battle we have 9 Marvel guys and 19 DC guys and gals. The DC team is definitely overpowered in the brawn department but I think that the Illuminati's brain power will suffice. Besides, it's not like they are powerless strength wise. You have an amped up Strange a powerhouse in Britain, a formidable combatant in Namor, an important threat in Black Bolt and Xavier's telepathy. Besides, Doom could bring forth his Doombot and Servoguard army, Tony his Iron Army, T'Challa the Wakandans (at a time like this i'm sure that they'd join forces) and what's left of the Atlanteans plus mythical beasts of the deep. Their power though lies in their smarts.

@kasino: For the scientific genius thing in recent showings he was shown to create complex machinery from a really young age much like Tony. When he first appeared he was a physics student as well and already a scholar (he chose the Amulet of Light after all). I'm a bit behind on my Cap Brit but he's not on any teams anymore, therefore he doesn't get the spotlight. Also, he's the Protector of the Omnivese (not Multiverse, I was confused before), which means that he's responsible for all multiverses which in turn means:

If you had coffee instead of milk this morning a splinter reality is created where you had coffee. This is repeated for every action every human being takes. Some universes are harmless (like ours) some are filled with super-humans. Therefore there is an infinite number of universe and in turn an infinite number of multiverses as well. In order to be the protector of an infinite number of realities you must be something special.

The Illuminati's moto is "in secret they rule". They are a team of the world's most influential people and Kings. There don't have to be geniuses, just great leaders of significant armies and nations.

@_andy_can: Current Fate isn't as strong as old Fate and even if he was current Strange has sold his whole soul for the power to move planets from the heavens and put them in a new sky. I'm sure he would give him a run for his money.

@kasino: Captain Britain is a scientific genius on par with Iron Man at least. He's also the prtector of the entire Multiverse, so he's not just a brawler. Also, he's a magic character since it has been stated many times that England has most of the marvel universe's magic. He also has excalibur in his possession if i recall correctly and his power levels depend on his confidence.

As for DC's Illuminati? Hmm, I'd go with: Batman, Luthor, Aquaman, Doctor Fate, Queen Hippolytta, Orion, JonCon, Hal Jordan

Okay, I combined JLA, JL and JL Dark (with a couple of others). I think that's a good match-up now.