Why Voldemort and other Wizards won't die by a bullet.

Hello everyone. So everytime I get in a debate with someone, they ask "Why didn't Harry just pop Voldemort?". I'm going to list a majority of reasons. I will also list reasons why other Wizards won't die by a gun. I'm going to use facts and interject some opinion here. So, here we go

Q: Why didn't Harry just pop Voldemort with a AK-47?

A: Funny you asked. See, it is stated non-magical objects do not work inside Hogwarts. There is no way Harry could have brung a AK-47 into Hogwarts. Plus, if Harry would have popped him, he simply teleports away, heals the wounds (Gun holes are normally minor) then silently teleports behind Harry, disarms him of the gun with the swish of his hand (like he disarmed him of his wand) then rips him apart.

Q: Why won't bullets work on Wizards?

A: Bullets actually would work on some wizards. See, wizards recieve 11+ years of training, plus 8+ training. I believe. Let me ask you this, Wizards have withstood high falls, and things of the like. It is mentioned that their bodies are very different then Muggle bodies. So, what is a bullet going to do to them? Even a low-leveled student has healing spells, if a bullet hits them and they are good at non verbal magic, a white flash from the Wand wll conceal the wound. If they can only use verbal magic, they are in trouble. Normally you can't speak when you are hit by a bullet.

Q: Would a bullet work on Dumbledore?

A: I'm going to say no. Here is why. I am sure we can agree a Curse is stronger then a bullet, right? Dumbledore had put on a Horocrux ring that weakened him gravely. However, through skills, he survived and got to Snape. Snape sealed it, Dumbledore had a year to live. His body is different then a muggle body. I bet if a Muggle had put that ring on, they would have died instantly. The body structure is different between a Muggle and a witch and wizard. Plus, Dumbledore can wave his hand and disarm of the gun. Dumbledore has the ability to sense things, peer through thoughts, etc. He'd sense if a Muggle was coming for him with a gun, thus he'd go invisible, disarm of the weapon, then handle the Muggle. So would voldemort. There are many things that put Voldemort and Dumbledore beyond a average human.

Q: Could McGonagall get killed by a gun?

A: Depends. I myself am not sure if McGonagall has practiced Occlumency. If she has, then she would obviously sense if someone was nearby. If they pointed the gun at her, if she was quick enough, she could turn their gun into a tea cup. But, again, a Muggle body is different then a Wizard body. Don't forget that, so we don't know if bullets would kill her.

Q: Would Snape get killed by a gun?

A: No. He'd place them under Mind Control before they can even get a target.

Q: Would Draco get killed by a gun?

A: Yes. But, then again, he may be able to heal due to Muggle body differences. He, however, has never used a Healing spell. Thus, he'd die.

Q: Would Ron Wesley die to a gun?

A: Yes.

Q: Would Harry Potter die to a gun?

A: Difficult. I doubt he could if he had the ancient magic love Sacrifice still on him. Under other circumstances, it's likely.

Q: Would Bellatrix die to a gun?

A: Again, we don't know if Wizards can take bullets, but they have withstand high falls and the like. So, based off of that, I'd say a bullet wouldn't do much.

Voldemort and his Death Eaters took over an entire Government, Muggles are no threat to him. He can just wave his wand and put the person who's trying to shoot him in a trance. What's stopping him from just entering their minds and influencing their thoughts? Nothing. Legilimency can surely do such.

I hope this answers questions. If you have anymore questions, let me know.

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Posted by mrdecepticonleader

lol

Posted by Pfcoolio14

Posted by danhimself

didn't the writer of the books actually say that any of the wizards could just be killed with a bullet?

Edited by Kingjohnrocks

@danhimself: No. That is 100% speculation that Wizards can be killed with a bullet.

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@pfcoolio14: Voldemort: "Expelliarmus!"

Hermonie sees her gun is gone.

Voldemort: Avada Kedavra!

*She dies*

Posted by Pfcoolio14
Edited by Pfcoolio14

@kingjohnrocks:

In other words

Voldemort: Expel-

Hermoine pulls trigger

Whats done is done

Posted by Dark_Vengeance_
Posted by lagoon_boy

Hello everyone. So everytime I get in a debate with someone, they ask "Why didn't Harry just pop Voldemort?". I'm going to list a majority of reasons. I will also list reasons why other Wizards won't die by a gun. I'm going to use facts and interject some opinion here. So, here we go

Q: Why didn't Harry just pop Voldemort with a AK-47?

A: Funny you asked. See, it is stated non-magical objects do not work inside Hogwarts. There is no way Harry could have brung a AK-47 into Hogwarts. Plus, if Harry would have popped him, he simply teleports away, heals the wounds (Gun holes are normally minor) then silently teleports behind Harry, disarms him of the gun with the swish of his hand (like he disarmed him of his wand) then rips him apart.

Q: Why won't bullets work on Wizards?

A: Bullets actually would work on some wizards. See, wizards recieve 11+ years of training, plus 8+ training. I believe. Let me ask you this, Wizards have withstood high falls, and things of the like. It is mentioned that their bodies are very different then Muggle bodies. So, what is a bullet going to do to them? Even a low-leveled student has healing spells, if a bullet hits them and they are good at non verbal magic, a white flash from the Wand wll conceal the wound. If they can only use verbal magic, they are in trouble. Normally you can't speak when you are hit by a bullet.

Q: Would a bullet work on Dumbledore?

A: I'm going to say no. Here is why. I am sure we can agree a Curse is stronger then a bullet, right? Dumbledore had put on a Horocrux ring that weakened him gravely. However, through skills, he survived and got to Snape. Snape sealed it, Dumbledore had a year to live. His body is different then a muggle body. I bet if a Muggle had put that ring on, they would have died instantly. The body structure is different between a Muggle and a witch and wizard. Plus, Dumbledore can wave his hand and disarm of the gun. Dumbledore has the ability to sense things, peer through thoughts, etc. He'd sense if a Muggle was coming for him with a gun, thus he'd go invisible, disarm of the weapon, then handle the Muggle. So would voldemort. There are many things that put Voldemort and Dumbledore beyond a average human.

Q: Could McGonagall get killed by a gun?

A: Depends. I myself am not sure if McGonagall has practiced Occlumency. If she has, then she would obviously sense if someone was nearby. If they pointed the gun at her, if she was quick enough, she could turn their gun into a tea cup. But, again, a Muggle body is different then a Wizard body. Don't forget that, so we don't know if bullets would kill her.

Q: Would Snape get killed by a gun?

A: No. He'd place them under Mind Control before they can even get a target.

Q: Would Draco get killed by a gun?

A: Yes. But, then again, he may be able to heal due to Muggle body differences. He, however, has never used a Healing spell. Thus, he'd die.

Q: Would Ron Wesley die to a gun?

A: Yes.

Q: Would Harry Potter die to a gun?

A: Difficult. I doubt he could if he had the ancient magic love Sacrifice still on him. Under other circumstances, it's likely.

Q: Would Bellatrix die to a gun?

A: Again, we don't know if Wizards can take bullets, but they have withstand high falls and the like. So, based off of that, I'd say a bullet wouldn't do much.

Voldemort and his Death Eaters took over an entire Government, Muggles are no threat to him. He can just wave his wand and put the person who's trying to shoot him in a trance. What's stopping him from just entering their minds and influencing their thoughts? Nothing. Legilimency can surely do such.

I hope this answers questions. If you have anymore questions, let me know.

Dat spelling.

Posted by joewell

@danhimself: No. That is 100% speculation that Wizards can be killed with a bullet.

Its really the opposite Bullets have been shown to kill people, while wizards have not been shown to tank bullets.

Edited by ssejllenrad

@joewell said:

@kingjohnrocks said:

@danhimself: No. That is 100% speculation that Wizards can be killed with a bullet.

Its really the opposite Bullets have been shown to kill people, while wizards have not been shown to tank bullets.

Exactly! It's like saying it's 100% speculation that neanderthals can be killed with a bullet... It hasn't happened yet, that's true....But it doesn't mean they can tank it... Nyahahaha!

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@ssejllenrad @joewell

What do you both know about Harry Potter? You do realize, Muggle bodies are different from Wizard bodies, right? So, we don't know if a bullet will kill a normal wizard, but we know about the experienced wizards.

Posted by ssejllenrad

@kingjohnrocks: You're too uptight. My post had troll written all over it and should have been taken with a grain of salt. I'm a Harry Potter reader, mate. Chill.

Posted by joewell

@kingjohnrocks: But how different are they? Theres still no proof that it wouldn't work

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@joewell: Because, me and you are non-magic humans. We can get killed by a bullet. Wizards have taken very high falls and still have been OK. If I fell from a skyscraper, I wouldn't survive. Their bodies are different then Muggle bodies.

Posted by joewell

@kingjohnrocks:

But a bullet wound is way different than falling wounds. Unless there's proof a bullet to the head want kill them, it will

Posted by JediXMan

From what I understand, this has more to do with reaction time than durability. In which case, it depends on how fast each person is with their weapon of choice.

I have heard of J.K. Rowling's quote regarding a wizard vs a shotgun, but I have not seen any proof that it's true - or any proof to the contrary.

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Posted by ssejllenrad

@sherlock said:

Voldemort vs bullet to head

I'm guessing either .500 S&W Magnum or or the 50 Cal Barrett

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@joewell: Voldemort can fly, teleport, go invisible, etc. People wouldn't even see him in able to "shoot" him in the head.

Can you survive a fall from the Empire state building?

Plus, a shotgun you must reload. You fire one time, you have to reload. This gives voldemort enough time to teleport away, cast a healing spell, disable the weapon, and use Imperio.

Or he can just look at the person and influence their thoughts before they try to kill him. Legilimency.

Posted by joewell

@kingjohnrocks:

I'm not debating weather a person with a gun can kill Voldy, i'm debating if Voldy can survive a gunshot.

I agree, the average person with a gun couldn't kill Voldemort. But people like Deathstroke might

Posted by tasir

wizards would die from a bullet hole if someone unloads 300 rounds of ammunition into any wizard theyd die the trouble is how are you gonna hit them

Posted by Sherlock
Edited by JamesKM716

@kingjohnrocks: What defenses do Wizards have?

You say they can disarm adn heal quickly enough, but what's going to stop a bullet being fired and hitting them in the head. They just need proper aiming.

Posted by Xanni15

@pfcoolio14: They take to long to say the spells.

The high end wizards and witches (of which Harry is not even close to) don't say spells, all non verbal.

Edited by Xanni15

No high end witch or wizard is going to be tagged by a bullet, but I do think they can die from multiple gunshot wounds. And really, let's not over exaggerate and make something of this supposed training ordinary witches and wizards have because their feats are beyond worthless. Harry and his gang took on Death Eaters (jobbers beyond belief) with basic spells, spells you'd expect a normal adult witch or wizard to know. Hogwarts really didn't teach people are much as we are led to believe.

Edited by FadeToBlackBolt

This is sad.

The OP provided no real evidence to the contrary and just responded to criticism with "Muggles are different to Wizards. F*ck you"

Voldemort killed himself by not realising that the Elder Wand was possessed by someone else. Bellatrix was killed by a Weasley (notoriously average Wizards) housewife.

A gun could easily kill virtually every member of the Harry Potter cast. The only exception being Voldemort because he possesses the Horcrux Ex Machina.

Posted by Nerx
you want me to make a thread to disprove that point?

Edited by ssejllenrad

@nerx: Saint of Killers just became killer of wizards...

Posted by Nerx
Posted by mrdecepticonleader

Hello everyone. So everytime I get in a debate with someone, they ask "Why didn't Harry just pop Voldemort?". I'm going to list a majority of reasons. I will also list reasons why other Wizards won't die by a gun. I'm going to use facts and interject some opinion here. So, here we go

Q: Why didn't Harry just pop Voldemort with a AK-47?

A: Funny you asked. See, it is stated non-magical objects do not work inside Hogwarts. There is no way Harry could have brung a AK-47 into Hogwarts. Plus, if Harry would have popped him, he simply teleports away, heals the wounds (Gun holes are normally minor) then silently teleports behind Harry, disarms him of the gun with the swish of his hand (like he disarmed him of his wand) then rips him apart.

Q: Why won't bullets work on Wizards?

A: Bullets actually would work on some wizards. See, wizards recieve 11+ years of training, plus 8+ training. I believe. Let me ask you this, Wizards have withstood high falls, and things of the like. It is mentioned that their bodies are very different then Muggle bodies. So, what is a bullet going to do to them? Even a low-leveled student has healing spells, if a bullet hits them and they are good at non verbal magic, a white flash from the Wand wll conceal the wound. If they can only use verbal magic, they are in trouble. Normally you can't speak when you are hit by a bullet.

Q: Would a bullet work on Dumbledore?

A: I'm going to say no. Here is why. I am sure we can agree a Curse is stronger then a bullet, right? Dumbledore had put on a Horocrux ring that weakened him gravely. However, through skills, he survived and got to Snape. Snape sealed it, Dumbledore had a year to live. His body is different then a muggle body. I bet if a Muggle had put that ring on, they would have died instantly. The body structure is different between a Muggle and a witch and wizard. Plus, Dumbledore can wave his hand and disarm of the gun. Dumbledore has the ability to sense things, peer through thoughts, etc. He'd sense if a Muggle was coming for him with a gun, thus he'd go invisible, disarm of the weapon, then handle the Muggle. So would voldemort. There are many things that put Voldemort and Dumbledore beyond a average human.

Q: Could McGonagall get killed by a gun?

A: Depends. I myself am not sure if McGonagall has practiced Occlumency. If she has, then she would obviously sense if someone was nearby. If they pointed the gun at her, if she was quick enough, she could turn their gun into a tea cup. But, again, a Muggle body is different then a Wizard body. Don't forget that, so we don't know if bullets would kill her.

Q: Would Snape get killed by a gun?

A: No. He'd place them under Mind Control before they can even get a target.

Q: Would Draco get killed by a gun?

A: Yes. But, then again, he may be able to heal due to Muggle body differences. He, however, has never used a Healing spell. Thus, he'd die.

Q: Would Ron Wesley die to a gun?

A: Yes.

Q: Would Harry Potter die to a gun?

A: Difficult. I doubt he could if he had the ancient magic love Sacrifice still on him. Under other circumstances, it's likely.

Q: Would Bellatrix die to a gun?

A: Again, we don't know if Wizards can take bullets, but they have withstand high falls and the like. So, based off of that, I'd say a bullet wouldn't do much.

Voldemort and his Death Eaters took over an entire Government, Muggles are no threat to him. He can just wave his wand and put the person who's trying to shoot him in a trance. What's stopping him from just entering their minds and influencing their thoughts? Nothing. Legilimency can surely do such.

I hope this answers questions. If you have anymore questions, let me know.

Wow watch the grammar there

Posted by ssejllenrad

@mrdecepticonleader: Oh Mr. English Guy is so damn up his high horse insulting people who might not have English as their first language eh? Wanna fight? Well let me tell you something. Brung it! Just brung it! Nyehehehehe!

Posted by Pyrogram

(Gun holes are normally minor)

I stopped reading here.

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@pyrogram said:

@kingjohnrocks said:

(Gun holes are normally minor)

I stopped reading here.

I didn't even get that far lol.

Posted by Bruxae

@pyrogram said:

@kingjohnrocks said:

(Gun holes are normally minor)

I stopped reading here.

Bruxae likes this post.

Edited by redbird3rdboywonder

This entire thread is pointless, the rerason it was made is because of an arugemnt he's trying to make in the Fullmetal Alchemist vs HP debate.

Edited by russellmania77

where would harry get an AK-47?

how would he know to use it?

if he doesnt use the spell that kills people why would he use a gun?

Posted by mrdecepticonleader

@mrdecepticonleader: Oh Mr. English Guy is so damn up his high horse insulting people who might not have English as their first language eh? Wanna fight? Well let me tell you something. Brung it! Just brung it! Nyehehehehe!

Ha ha I am actually pretty sure it is is his first language.But still if he is going to post something where people expect him to take what he is saying seriously then he should try and post proper English.

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

This is sad.

The OP provided no real evidence to the contrary and just responded to criticism with "Muggles are different to Wizards. F*ck you"

Voldemort killed himself by not realising that the Elder Wand was possessed by someone else. Bellatrix was killed by a Weasley (notoriously average Wizards) housewife.

A gun could easily kill virtually every member of the Harry Potter cast. The only exception being Voldemort because he possesses the Horcrux Ex Machina.

Yes, Voldemort killed himself because he was tricked. Many people in Comics have been tricked.

Mxyzptlk is an example. Not comparing him to Voldemort, but he has been tricked before.

A gun could easily kill virtually EVERY member of the Harry Potter cast?

It is a fact that Muggle body structure is VERY different then Wizard body structures. One gunshot wound may not kill someone like Dumbledore. How would they even find him in the first place? He could use Legilimency to sense if a Muggle was coming to him with a gun, he'd go invisible, teleport behind the muggle and make him burst into flames.

Take these factors into playt.

@mrdecepticonleader @sideslash

I'm going to kindly ask both of you to stop derailing my thread.

Posted by FadeToBlackBolt

@fadetoblackbolt said:

This is sad.

The OP provided no real evidence to the contrary and just responded to criticism with "Muggles are different to Wizards. F*ck you"

Voldemort killed himself by not realising that the Elder Wand was possessed by someone else. Bellatrix was killed by a Weasley (notoriously average Wizards) housewife.

A gun could easily kill virtually every member of the Harry Potter cast. The only exception being Voldemort because he possesses the Horcrux Ex Machina.

Yes, Voldemort killed himself because he was tricked. Many people in Comics have been tricked.

Mxyzptlk is an example. Not comparing him to Voldemort, but he has been tricked before.

A gun could easily kill virtually EVERY member of the Harry Potter cast?

It is a fact that Muggle body structure is VERY different then Wizard body structures. One gunshot wound may not kill someone like Dumbledore. How would they even find him in the first place? He could use Legilimency to sense if a Muggle was coming to him with a gun, he'd go invisible, teleport behind the muggle and make him burst into flames.

Take these factors into playt.

So Dumbledore can use Legilimency to Spider-Sense his way out of getting shot, but Voldemort can't use it to figure out that his wand will backfire? Seems legit.

And your central contention is "why a bullet wouldn't kill them", the act of being shot is totally incidental.

Take these factors into play.

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@jameskm716: There are multiple factors. 1. It was stated that Voldemort could have looked inside Hogwarts, gain influence and sense things through Legilimency. That is stated in Occlumency chapter. Voldemort couldn't due to the protection spells Dumbledore put on Hogwarts.

So, if Voldemort can sense things from far away, why wouldn't he feel if a Muggle with a gun was coming towards him? It's like, alright, "A muggle is coming for me. Time to simply plant the muggle repelling spell". I mean, it's that simple. He doesn't even need to engage in combat. If he didn't place the muggle repelling spell, he'd had to go invisible and would simply non-verbally cast Imperio. So, there's no way a human with a gun is going to kill Voldemort. If Voldemort has prep, he completely stomps 5 muggles with guns.

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@fadetoblackbolt:

Nope. Voldemort did not know Snape and Dumbledore were planning this and stooping him all this time. Snape had sealed his mind with Occlumency so Voldemort couldn't read or influence it.

Plus, J.K Rowling in a chapter of her book herself said Voldemort could have influenced thoughts and sensed inside of Hogwarts if the protection spells weren't in place.

Edited by mrdecepticonleader

@kingjohnrocks: You could take my advice and maybe improve on some grammar.

But whatever

Edited by Kingjohnrocks

@mrdecepticonleader: I don't take time to write 100% perfect grammar. Question. Why don't you put periods at the end of your sentences? "But whatever" has no period at the end.

Posted by mrdecepticonleader

@mrdecepticonleader: I don't take time to write 100% perfect grammar. Question. Why don't you put periods at the end of your sentences? "But whatever" has no period at the end.

Well you should check it over,as I said if you want people to take you seriously you should take the time to at least check your grammar and spelling.

Not putting one dot at the end of my sentence is different to the constant spelling and grammar errors in your post.I am not saying you should have everything perfect but at least try to make it look like you understand basic English.

But maybe you thought that people would not take what you have to say that seriously anyway(?) So I can get that.

Edited by Kingjohnrocks

@mrdecepticonleader: Actually, I pieced this thread together as something serious, not a joke.

I understand English perfectly.

I mean, when I piece together a fantasy thread all you can think about is grammar, it shows how desperate you are to make me look like an idiot.

If you have nothing nice to say then say NOTHING at all. Thank you very much. Have a nicer day.

Now please, stop derailing my thread and talk about the subject at hand.

Edited by mrdecepticonleader

@mrdecepticonleader: Actually, I pieced this thread together as something serious, not a joke.

I understand English perfectly.

I mean, when I piece together a fantasy thread all you can think about is grammar, it shows how desperate you are to make me look like an idiot.

If you have nothing nice to say then say NOTHING at all. Thank you very much. Have a nicer day.

Now please, stop derailing my thread and talk about the subject at hand.

Well if you did and you do then why not check what you have written over before you post the thread?

No I am not trying to make you look like an idiot,all I said was that if you want people to take what you say seriously you should at least check over what you have written.Because if you don't take what you have written seriously,then how can you expect anyone else to?

Posted by NeonGameWave

@kingjohnrocks: Awesome thread and I agree Voldemort wouldn`t die to a bullet.

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