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#1 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

Look Here Boy !

#2 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

Bobo Feet vs Quinn Gone Gin

#3 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow... that would have to hurt.

#4 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn:

It's not simply assertion... We know that the Creation Blades are Plot Device Weapons meaning they can do as they say they do... sort of like Saint of Killers Divine Colts can basically kill anyone... that's the purpose of the weapons themselves.

I never disputed the power of the creation baldes.

Majestic has been using speedblitzing and attacking on multiple foes he has faced in the past in comics... why wouldn't he think this is his best shot and use it as his initial shot ? Is Majestic not going to think to use the Creation Blades he has been given in the battle ? Why wouldn't he go for a critical attack off top ? I don't see why he wouldn't.

Does Majestic start every fight by speed blitzing and going for the kill? No. Therefore, I need you to explain why Majestic would just happen to choose the only possible way for him to win at the start of this fight. It can't just be arbitrary. You can't just choose the method that's most convenient for Majestic to win because you think that's a viable option for Majestic to win. Majestic has to choose this method strategically. And without prior knowledge about Odin I don't see why he would choose the strategy of speed blitzing + decapitation as his immediate and only attack.

Your second paragraph is kind of dumb... you asking would Thanos speedblitz Odin ? You do realize that Thanos is not known for Superhuman Speed right ? As far as Silver Surfer or Superman speedblitzing... well again, it's the nature of the character... like I said earlier we have some examples of Majestic using the speedblitz and operational speed to take out his opponents... Surfer and Superman have exceptional speed but not as frequent use of operational speed showings... on top of that, you have the fact that Majestic has a plot device weapon at his disposal that can take out Odin which neither Silver Surfer or Superman has... so it's even more an incentive for Majestic to attack quickly to subdue the opponent.

Your response is completely irrelevant to what I wrote. I'm questioning Majestic's ability to speed blitz Odin not what Thanos or Silver Surfer or New-52 Superman would do in a hypothetical battle against Odin. Those are two different things. Even if it's in Majestic's nature to speed blitz + go for the kill in every fight he's had no matter what, that still wouldn't prove that he actually had the capability to speed blitz Odin. I'm pointing out that if you think Majestic has the capability to speed blitz Odin then you must also believe that about Thanos, Silver Surfer, New-52 Superman, Gladiator, etc. Basically anybody who has nanosecond reaction speed and is FTL.

1.Then what the heck are you saying I am asserting then ?

2. Majestic doesn't have to start every fight with a speed blitz... if he did, then most of the comics that Majestic was in wouldn't have battles lasting more than a few panels... this is a writer's decision not to impose a character's power to the extent he is capable of... not a lack of ability or tactical knowledge to use said ability. Majestic uses speed blitzing and nano second reaction time on several occasions... this is why it's a viable primary option... I mean you are acting like Majestic has to do it in every battle for it to be plausible for him to do it against Odin. That doesn't make any sense at all... if the character has used said techniques before in battle multiple times then we can say he can use it here in this battle with Odin as well.

3. Huh ? You asked specifically if I thought Thanos or Silver Surfer or Superman could speed blitz Odin ? I went in on you about Thanos because The Mad Titan does not have the capability to speed blitz Odin or anyone like the Silver Surfer or Superman or Mr. Majestic. That was the point. As far as Majestic not being able to speed blitz Odin... what evidence is there that Odin has Nanosecond reaction time to react to Majestic attacking at these FTL speeds ? You would have to show that in order for there to be reason to believe your assertion here. Again, you got be blowed with this Thanos being able to Speed Blitz... Thanos is not a Speed Blitzing type of character... Big Purple is a Powerhouse but he does not use Speed like Superman, Silver Surfer or Majestic. This sort of makes me wonder what you really know of these characters abilities considering this should be basic knowledge of Thanos. Thanos is not FTL and his reaction time "Might Be" near nanosecond based on a few battles he has had... but Thanos himself is not a Speed Blitzing Character.

#5 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn:

That's easy dude... Majestic would only have to determine where Odin's head is located because the Creation Blades themselves will detach it from it's body... it's not like it would be a lot of complicated steps... only the notion of speed blitzing and attacking with the blades. Majestic would get it right with that one chance... he has been getting it right with over 10,000 years of fighting experience beforehand and giving him a plot device weapon that can cut through anything would spell problem for Odin. It doesn't matter if it's a random encounter... Majestic has been well know for using his operational speed off top against his opponents...

This is nothing more than your assertion. What I'm asking is how will Majestic know, in a random encounter, that his only way to win is speed blitz + decapitation? How will he know that the only way to win the fight is immediate incapacitation or death? He can't possibly know that before hand. Fighting experience doesn't tell you the only way to win a fight as soon as a fight starts; this kind of knowledge can only be gained by fighting the opponent.

Furthermore, Majestic can't speed blitz Odin. Again, I don't know why people are saying this. Would you argue that Thanos or Silver Surfer or New-52 Superman could speed blitz Odin? Of course not. Not only this but if you have to argue something outside the rules stipulated, which is essentially that Majestic is bloodlusted (since he's starting with speed blitz + decapitation), then the fight is probably not fair to begin with.

It's not simply assertion... We know that the Creation Blades are Plot Device Weapons meaning they can do as they say they do... sort of like Saint of Killers Divine Colts can basically kill anyone... that's the purpose of the weapons themselves. Majestic has been using speedblitzing and attacking on multiple foes he has faced in the past in comics... why wouldn't he think this is his best shot and use it as his initial shot ? Is Majestic not going to think to use the Creation Blades he has been given in the battle ? Why wouldn't he go for a critical attack off top ? I don't see why he wouldn't.

Your second paragraph is kind of dumb... you asking would Thanos speedblitz Odin ? You do realize that Thanos is not known for Superhuman Speed right ? As far as Silver Surfer or Superman speedblitzing... well again, it's the nature of the character... like I said earlier we have some examples of Majestic using the speedblitz and operational speed to take out his opponents... Surfer and Superman have exceptional speed but not as frequent use of operational speed showings... on top of that, you have the fact that Majestic has a plot device weapon at his disposal that can take out Odin which neither Silver Surfer or Superman has... so it's even more an incentive for Majestic to attack quickly to subdue the opponent.

#6 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

Cormier vs Jones...

#7 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn:

Just to jump in briefly, I recall Majestic from the Wildstorm era having Vast Superhuman Intellect to go along with Vast Superhuman Reaction Time... that alone would alot Maj the ability to determine the steps to defeat Odin within nanosecond time similar how he was able to create a complex device in nanosecond time as well as clobber Spartan within a nanosecond of time to react. I think you maybe underestimating Majestic a little bit here. While Odin has the better Power Output than Majestic... Maj's Operational Speed coupled with his Superhuman Intellect and those Creation Blades could spell problems for Odin.

All problems are not abstract intellectual problems. Some problems are based on practical reasoning, i.e., trial and error. How could Majestic ever figure out that he would need to take very specific steps to win in a random encounter? This isn't a matter of whether or not Majestic could figure it out--he could figure it out. My point is that he only has 1 chance to get it right. If you're fighting someone and there's only 1 possible way for you to win, how could you ever deduce via pure reasoning what that 1 possible way is in a random encounter?

That's easy dude... Majestic would only have to determine where Odin's head is located because the Creation Blades themselves will detach it from it's body... it's not like it would be a lot of complicated steps... only the notion of speed blitzing and attacking with the blades. Majestic would get it right with that one chance... he has been getting it right with over 10,000 years of fighting experience beforehand and giving him a plot device weapon that can cut through anything would spell problem for Odin. It doesn't matter if it's a random encounter... Majestic has been well know for using his operational speed off top against his opponents...

#8 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

It's gonna be a long way home...

#9 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

I would try it...

#10 Posted by King Saturn (223812 posts) - - Show Bio

That chick is funny...