@theultimatefusion: One, I'm talking about DS, I mean, in the same issue, GL tried to punch him when he had a power ring. Cap Cold is superhuman in terms of reflexes, + his cold field slows down Flash, another thing is that Flash holds back fighting his rogues.
The problem with this website is that most of you on here seem to have lost sight of that. Instead of just commenting and putting feats to why the person wins, you bash the guy making the thread just because you don't like me. And then say "you don't just ban people from your threads" @deathhero61, so you're telling me that level of freedom gives you the right to come on a thread you are going to disagree with and blast me? I don't think so? I don't know you, half of you guys commenting to me talking about how much I start things, I have never debated with you, I don't know you and vice versa. Just because I open a thread YOU don't like, that does not mean it is an invitation for air heads to come on it and start something.
Actually like @kyrees said a forum is public no matter how you look at it people are free to make their opinions and come on and dicuss the topic. Actually in the gon and killua vs monkey d luffy battle you were the first one to critize me of lowballing luffy when making rules to make a fight interesting is what people do on comicvine. I never even once came on one of your threads and started something, i would come onto a thread say how much of a mismatch a thread would be and then you'd get all mad. Thats exactly how it go or when i make a thread and you say its a mismatch i argue on why its not and you call me an idiot for it. Thats exactly how it goes. I never said anything to even imply that i had hatred for you at all. I actually always back up the characters on a thread. Look at every single argument we had on other threads, i posted feats every time while you procrastinated. Do you know what procrastination is? Not that it matters anyway. And may i ask something? what gives you the freedom to call people idiots when they don't agree with you?
I actually appreciate the people posting feats, to put up a battle thread is to see why the two or more characters that you put in a fight win and why, you and others act like it is a divine crime when I put up fights like these, like seriously? Calm down, do you praise these characters, is there a problem? I have never seen a bunch of guys act like it is depraved to put up a fight of your choice, where both have a equal chance to win. There is no bias when I make a fight. You say it's obvious I am an anime fan, just because I put up a fight between Aizen and the Avengers, but you act like it is something out of the range of Aizen, two biggest threats for him are Thor and Hulk, Hulk most likely dies due to inability to fly and Aizen can possible defeat thor with hyogyoku with him. I go off of pure feats and relativistic possibilities, not just going off my fanboyism, which you and others clearly do. Don't go around blaming people for things you are guilty of.
Thor can bust planets with his full power strikes and hulk in terms of physical strength and durability surpasses everyone in bleach. And with a single thunder clap can deal serious damage to aizen if aizen doesn't troll him first lol. Anyway i don't see how Doomsday and Darkseid and Bizarro fighting against luffy and zoro(who you said either could solo) is a fair fight. Thats why people argue, people know their shit. People don't just barge in and assume that their character wins a fight. Kizaru vs The flash can be considered not fair on both sides. IMPs theoretically can hit logias, and since kizaru is nowhere near as fast as flash he wouldn't be able to react. And if we ignore the possibility of IMPs hurting kizaru, kizaru cannot be touched by flash therefore potentially making it a stomp on either side which shows it cannot possibly be a fair fight. When me and you have an debate between characters like for example gon and killua vs Luffy you only looked at feats. You took no other factor into consideration, stealth, skill, prep etc. The location. You just kept arguing about how luffy's outmatches them and is far faster than them(Which i was arguing and asking for feats when the only thing you and natsuboi showed was zoro speed blitzing a celestial.) And take into consideration that feats aren't everything. I also have to say that how is aizen taking on the entire avengers team? He already has to deal with powerhouses like thor and hulk, ironman cannot be trolled since he is using machinery which can be set to auto-pilot which actually happens to be better than ironman actually is in terms of combat. And etc. You aren't taking everything in a battle into consideration. You are simply all about stats based on every debate we had. Who would win in straight up combat? Batman? or Killer Croc? But wait, killer croc outmatches batman in physical strength and durability, but batman is far more skilled and versatile and has knowledge on him already so he would know how to beat him and can use his powerful gadgets that will give him an edge. See? thats what i mean by factors you say irrelevant facts but i don't see how arguing about how someone can use skill and what not to their advantage irrelevant. We argue because some of the matches you make don't make any real sense. Thor vs Enel? I mean in a majority of your threads you put high level powerhouses against low level powerhouses. But you say that some are fools because we apparently don't know what we are talking about, but if so many people had to bring this up i don't see why we are idiots or ignorant according to you? Or jerks or why we apparently hate you just because we disagree.
All of you talking about flame wars, just paste yourself to the definition of hypocrite, blatant hypocrites saying I start things when this is obviously a whole bunch of guys with nothing to do trying to gain attention from mods. It's ridiculous grow up.
@deathhero61 if you think the thread is bad, why go on it, why not look in the other direction. There are multiple threads on here I don't agree with, I state my case and my facts and leave, but once in a while I will bump into people like you, who continuously ask for feats after I already posted a thousand. Keep whatever you have to say to yourself, look at the beginning of this thread and see the comments, everything was fine until, you and other hypocritical haters come on the thread talking about how much flame wars I start.
Actually i don't think you understand why I call you a hypocrite, the reason is because you got mad at me on several occasions and called me an idiot for making certain "mismatch threads" And trying to defend characters in other threads who apparently "get stomped" and that i personally insult you all the time, but you do the exact same things but never notice. Thats why i consider you a hypocrite.
As soon as i state my opinions you call me ignorant and stupid. And people are allowed to reply to others for a reason. Post a thousand? Stop exaggerating. on the Gon and Killua vs Monkey D.Luffy thread i asked you to show me speed feats that beats the ones i showed you and i asked for you to prove to me that zoro was faster than them, you never did you and natsuboi were simply "lol your an idiot" or "You are so ignorant" Etc. On the shiro vs unohana thread i asked you to tell me how large was the portion of japan and show me scans of her sinking it, you never did. During the Kenshin Vs Hiei Debate everyone and their moms showed feats for hiei that surpassed Kenshin's by a mile but you were still calling people idiots, despite people showing that hiei has the exact same speed feats as kenshin and more. You must have a selective memory because everytime i bring it up you dodge it like the plague.
Umm funny you say the following:
look at the beginning of this thread and see the comments, everything was fine until, you and other hypocritical haters come on the thread talking about how much flame wars I start.
Despite the fact that the people you tagged to join the debate one of them being @thatguywithheadphones was already criticizing you, about this thread itself. Not a single person didn't think this thread wasn't spite so far. Except possibly ssjgod.
Like Kyrees said:
you created a thread for the public to react to it, you don't get to say who reacts here.
That means if people want to they can come on threads like these. And also lets assume that the assumptions of you starting flame wars are false(by the way i never really said you start flame wars at all in the first place), what about that thread when you were trying to unban DBZ despite not being a mod as if you had the authority to?
@dccomicsrule2011: My issue is more so that I personally can't back that up, and that n52 flash isn't all that fast. pre-52 whoops tsuna, n52 not as certain.
New 52 still has speed force and basically can think about all the possible outcomes in virtually nano seconds.
After a while of fighting Tsuna(if tsuna doesn't somehow get destroyed by then) Flash would already have several different ideas of how to take down Tsuna.
Like I said before, everything has to be considered, he can see everything that happens before it happens but that doesn't stop enemies that are slower than him from hitting him, when you are debating you have to look at all points, Flash says this but he has still fought in battles where he ends up dying or getting injured real bad because, it is a fight, it seems to me that you take the flashes abilities out of context into diverse meanings, more so than the creators of comics themselves. You act like he is so untouchable, this can be a good fight if you stop choosing the one you either know more about or like more. This can actually be really even but fanboys make sure that doesn't happen.
It is the flash easily ftl, but he is not untouchable, deathstroke proved this. This should really be an even fight but favoritism kicks in, keep talking about how much Tsuna gets stomped, without taking into consideration everything. It is really funny, you and multiple others on this site think the flash has never got touched, hurt, nothing, I know of both characters and what they can do.
Yes New 52 is good but...
But does that stop Captain Cold from tagging him? And don't you dare say I am biased, because I know you and that comes next, I am just telling you the truth, even as desperate as the DC comics are to make reincarnations of these characters they still don't make them seem as ridiculously strong as you and others do on this site. What makes you think Tsuna can't do these things, I know for sure Captain Cold is not as fast as Tsuna, also he can create ice as well with Zero Point Breakthrough First Edition, but you have not taken those things into perspective, you just continue to ramble on about how you are always right and then I insult you. Well if you consider this ^ an insult take it.
Dude, did you just brought up a scan of PISsy Identity Crisis? It's PIS and Wally was moving way below the Speed of Sound, wanna see what happens when he goes serious on Deathstroke?
LOL. So a saiyan is better than a guy who can run at quadrillion times the speed of light, can react at Zepto/Yoctoseconds, can punch with the force of a white dwarf star, and can tank thousands of Superman level Punches?
@velle37: Mogo won't touch Wally going at full speeds
Round one: Wally starts on Mogo, they're touching.
Mogo can immediately invade his mind, and Wally will not necessarily know he's being invaded because his illusions are very vivid and lifelike. He is known as a source of counsel among GLs who come to his Grove to be healed, and he sends them soothing visions. Kyle had convincing encounters with his two dead girlfriends and his current one while they weren't present. Space/time are the same thing to the universe/physics-continuum, so even if Wally sped up his mind this would have little effect since Mogo's telepathy can stretch to the depths of the universe and reach creatures in other galaxies.
Mogo can rain lasers and hail throughout his atmosphere, Wally has had trouble running through hail before. Mogo can turn his terrain into quicksand/ice/magma/etc so that Wally won't get traction, Barry has had trouble with this. Initial traction is needed to run, and a place to run is needed as well. GL constructs can push him underground and he can crush him with tectonics and gravity. Mogo can make his atmosphere un-breathable and/or poisonous with unperceived change.
Wally's vibration-explosion power won't do much good if all of the recoil is right there to damage him as well, and it will do more to him than Mogo. Wally's intangibility powers aren't stable like Barry's are, that's why things explode, because two objects can't occupy the same space, thus the physical part of Wally will still be hurt while he's making things explode if he's aiming to do that to literally everything around him. And Mogo isn't going to be unreactive to anything that Wally is doing.
Round 2: Wally is on another planet that Mogo can astro-snipe. John has set his ring to react to speeds humans can't percieve, Mogo should have no problem doing something similar or better. Wally can't fly efficiently, and there isn't a trajectory from Earth to Mogo that will allow him to evade being blasted point-blank before he even reaches Mogo.
Yeah, like Flash's not immune to TP. Wally can move faster than thought, TP isn't helping.
Lasers, to a guy that casually travels far beyond Light Speed. And you're talking as if Mogo can react to Wally.
You realize Wally's intangible, he exploded things before and didn't show any signs of being hurt.
Wally can easily dodge anything any GL blasts him.
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