@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek:I didn't put characters like Thanos and Darkseid because they can beat Supes without prep, although I shouldn't have put down Majestic either
Doom beat Surfer in character, as I stated before if these high level characters were OOC they'd steamroll the geniuses.
Batman can't even beat Superman with sufficient prep.
Years of prep may be longer, but still won't help him with tougher characters.
Prep time is an overrated concept in general. No earth based genius on Marvel or DC could beat Superman [at least not out of character] since he'd blitz their heads off before they could use whatever plot device tech they come up with.
Yeah, I hate it when people say Batman automatically wins because of prep.
Almost every Earth Based genius has failed against top tier characters anyway
Batman = Superman
Iron Man = World War Hulk
Reed = Giant Robot
Doom = Sentry
Sivana = Captain Marvel
Terrific = Black Adam
Pym = Ultron
Will Magnus = Metal Man
To beat Superman you need cosmic level geniuses, Kang, High Evo, Brainiac 5, Majestic [although he'd beat him without prep] etc
Batman can't even beat Superman with sufficient prep.
Years of prep may be longer, but still won't help him with tougher characters.
Prep time is an overrated concept in general. No earth based genius on Marvel or DC could beat Superman [at least not out of character] since he'd blitz their heads off before they could use whatever plot device tech they come up with.
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