Who's actually stronger than Goku ?

This is kind of like a forum about who in any comic universe is stronger than Goku

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Posted by paki99

There are a lot of characters stronger than goku.First there are omnipotient beings like TOAA,Presence,Kami Tenchi,God from Bastard...Than there are nigh omnipotient guys like L-Sama,Chousin,Anti-Spiral,EG Demonbane,Noein,Ginji Amaro,Thanos,Galactus,Dragon God,Pontus and so.There are 1000 of them that are stronger than goku cuz goku is on solar tier of power.And there are planet/solar/nebula/galaxy/cluster/super cluster/universe/multiverse/megaverse/omniverse - so goku is really weak when you look at this scale :D.

Posted by doomsdaybob

Im not tryin to be mean or anything, but a omniverse buster would be quite OP if you think about it. Galactus is stronger than Goku and Superman for sure, but Goku stands a better chance if you include dbz battle of gods. He's way stronger in that movie. So maybe if ssj4 Goku(whatever it was non-canon:P) teamed with golden Superman they could beat galactus, but thats a very hard fight without spirit bomb, which may still not be enough with superman helping. Though, thats just my opinion. Everyone else has their own opinion. And ssj5 and ssj7 are both fan made (to the creator of the list) i've actually never even seen an ssj7 on a video before. i've seen ssj5-20 on google pics but their obviously fake.

Posted by elijahriemer

This is not true because superman pretty much cant die except for kryptonite and red sun. Where is Goku going to get those. Plus Goku wouldn't know about those know about Superman's weaknesses. Plus Goku can die and Superman has all these abilites including superhuman intelligence. So superman could use that to find out Goku's weaknesses. So Therefore superman would win in a fight.

Posted by kaelanmoyes

Hulk. Enough said strongest being ever unlimited strength

And cosmic spiderman

Edited by kaelanmoyes

Forgot but, batman, BEACAUSE HE'S BATMAN

Posted by NeonPheonix

@paki99 said:

There are a lot of characters stronger than goku.First there are omnipotient beings like TOAA,Presence,Kami Tenchi,God from Bastard...Than there are nigh omnipotient guys like L-Sama,Chousin,Anti-Spiral,EG Demonbane,Noein,Ginji Amaro,Thanos,Galactus,Dragon God,Pontus and so.There are 1000 of them that are stronger than goku cuz goku is on solar tier of power.And there are planet/solar/nebula/galaxy/cluster/super cluster/universe/multiverse/megaverse/omniverse - so goku is really weak when you look at this scale :D.

you spelled NeonPheonix wrong

Edited by ak47

this is all wrong goku is like the strongest fighter in the universe just so you know dragon ball z galaxy are 10 time the size in superman world! In dragon ball z world there are like 400 solar systems in one galaxy

if you don't know anything about dragon ball z world than just don't talk about it in the ssj3 goku he is strong enought to destroy 400 galaxy in dbz world you can even see it goku only fight about 20% on earth in ssj 3 form in "king kai world" he use about 55% of his power so that he won't destroy the planet!His speed is 64 time the speed of light! duribility goku survice a lightning strick and his enemy punch are strong as supernova

Posted by paki99

Stop with this treads please goku is weak, he even cant destroy 1 galaxy .

Posted by Immortal

Goku is awesome, but Superman can destroy him!!

Posted by as140

@Paki: Only because you don´t like GT doesn´t make it uncanon. I know much about DB and I´m sure it is meant to be canon.

Posted by BladeGamer
Posted by BladeGamer

@kaelanmoyes: Hulk can't beat Goku... because Goku can instant transmission and Hulk can't blast energy beams so... yeah. Don't argue with me.... it's my opinion. I'm not arguing with you so don't argue with me.

Posted by TheGreenBat

@doomsdaybob: Or you can have batman scare the living crap out of galactus.

Posted by liongoldrock

Norrin radd

Posted by ssjgodbaws

@paki99: goku is stronger first of he is a god second off if bills the god of destruction had a hard time fighting him plus the fact bills is 10× stronger than superman primeval and silver form superman is dead he can just rip his headoff his head in a instant he's faster stronger cooler and a boss

Posted by nayyar2000

GOKU is the most strongest guy in the world,superman can't beat him. superman to GOKU ki gulami krne k laaik bhi nai hay.

Posted by honeyboi_chad

SS3 Goku punching King Kai's planet which has 10x gravity because of it's mass:

The first calculation is figuring out the mass of the planet using gravity and radius since those are the two things we know.

The next step is Volume, using the radius.

And the third is density using the mass and volume we calced.

I also have links to a few calculators/convertors I checked the answers on.

Rearanged gravity formula to calculate mass instead (had to do short hand got formula from wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_gravity

g = m/r^2

m = r^2 x g

Volume formula

V = (4/3) × pi × r^3

Density Formula

P = M/V

*Very good overall calculator

http://web2.0calc.com/

cm/g to m/kg calculator

http://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-dens ... perm3.html

Density calculator

http://www.smartconversion.com/unit_cal ... lator.aspx

Volume calculator

http://www.basic-mathematics.com/volume ... lator.html

Heres the actual calcs

g = m/r^2

m = r^2 x g

m = 0.0000156961230576^2 x 10

m = 0.0000000024636827904 earth masses

Earths mass = 5.97219 × 10^24 kilograms

5.97219 × 10^24 X 0.0000000024636827904 = 14,713,581,723,998,976

m = 14,713,581,723,998,976 kg

This considers King akis planet as 100m radius and 10X gravity.

The small number is the size of king kais planets radius in relation to Earths.

volume of a sphere is V = (4/3) × pi × r^3

V = (4/3) × pi × 100m^3 = 4188790.2047863905m^3

This is using King kais planet as 100m radius.

Knowing the mass and Volume we can get density.

P = M/V

P = 14713581723998976kg / 4188790.2047863905m^3

P = 3.512608892.9415128417291527 X 10^9 kg/m^3

Density of a white dwarf star: "The average density of matter in a white dwarf must therefore be, very roughly, 1,000,000 times greater than the average density of the Sun, or approximately 10^6 g/cm3." Which translates to 10^9 kg/m^3. So in other words it is over 3.5 times as dense as a white dwarf star.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf

If you don't believe this then I found some other calcs.

It doesn't matter here the dimension of the planet, but the density, since we are talking about a PUNCH, not a Ki blast.

King Kai's planet is not more than 30 meters in diameter (pixels-scaling), but even if it is 40, 50 or 90 meters, the order of magnitude, physically talking, is still the same (i.e. 10).

Now, gravitational force of a planet is given by this formula:

F = (G*M*m)/r^2

G is the universal gravitational constant (6,67*10^-11 [m^3/(kg*s^2)];

M is the mass of the planet

m is the generic reference mass

r is the radius of the planet (or distance between the two masses' centers)

Since King Kai's gravitational force is 10 times the Earth gravitational force, we have Fk (gravitational force of King Kai's planet) 10 times bigger than Fe (Earth's gravity).

Fk/Fe = [(G*Mk*m)/rk^2]/[(G*Me*m)/re^2] = 10

G and m are in commons and go away, so we have:

(Mk/rk^2)/(Me/re^2) = 10

Mass is Volume (V)*Density (D), with Volume (of a generical planet) = (4/3)*π*r^3;

back to the formula:

((4/3)*π*rk^3*Dk)/rk^2 = Fk and ((4/3)*π*re^3*De)/re^2 = Fe, so:

Fk/Fe = (Dk*rk)/(De*re) = 10.

The only unknown term is Dk (density of King Kai's planet), while we know De and re of Earth and rk = 15 meters (assuming a diameter of King Kai's planet of 30 m, as previously said).

So, Dk = 1,17*10^10 kg/m^3, while density of Earth (De) is 5,5153*10^3 kg/m^3, so the density of King Kai's planet is around 2 millions of times higher than the desnity of Earth, and Goku punched a whole hole throughout this material.

The most dense material known is Osmium, which has a density of 22661 kg/m^3, and, because of that, it's also the material which is most resistant to compression (462 GPa).

King Kai's planet is still half a million times more dense than this, and thus even way more resistant to physical compression.

Even if King Kai's planet had the same gravitational force as Earth, the fact it has such a small diameter would still imply a huge density, and indeed, it would still have a density around 200000 times bigger than the density of Earth.

Do you have some info about that planet destroyed by Gladiator?

Because it could be a planet 2 times bigger than Earth, but 100 times less dense, making this feat pale compared to Goku's striking punch.

Indeed, what really matters when talking about physical punches is the density, and AT, giving us a planet of a few meters of diameter and with a gravitational force 10 times bigger than the one on Earth, is indisputably giving us that previously said enormous level of density.

Imaging taking a cube of 1 meter of each side of the following materials:

- average Sun composition: it would weigh around 1,4 tons;

- average Earth composition: it would weigh around 5,5 tons;

- core of the Sun material: it would weigh 150 tons;

- King Kai's planet material: it would weigh around 10 millions tons;

- Neutron Star material: it would weigh around 280000 billions tons.

Punching the core of the Sun would obviously require inhuman physical strength, regardless of how much matter, in kg, you punch away; even worse would be just trying to physically scratch the surface of a Neutron Star.

Well, a not even bloodlusted Ssj3 Goku actually vaporizes, with one punch, a whole quantity of a material which, according to canon info about King Kai's planet, has thousands of times the density of the core of the Sun.

This is insane, literally insane.

Punching the Earth material for Goku would thus be a joke: for him, it would be like punching air, and the Earth would collapse on itself.

"Part of martial arts it to focus your inner energy, and that is exactly what has been stated over and over from time and time again in the series, and not just by Goku. This "focus of inner energy" is what allows them to pull planet shattering punches against opponents and not destroy the planet via excessive energy (i.e. shock-waves). Their energy is so focused that they are able to subconsciously control it without needed effort on a conscious level"

Posted by FuriousDestroyer

Goku can kill superman but one guy strongest than everyone and it called lord bill (beerus) from dragon ball z battle of god