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#1  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@DedmanWalkin said:
"Why can't Cable just put up a TK shield while Cyclops and Gambit takes them out? "

Assuming Cable has the level of power in this match to do so, he can and likely would.  However, he wouldn't do that as they just walk around in the beginning, since they're unaware of the threat.
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#2  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"@k4tzm4n said:
"@ThanosIsMad said:
"How many X-Men does it take to kill 25 Brood?   The three can take this, especially with Cable's TK.  "
The brood are far different than this species of alien.  Also, I still think this relies on how powerful Cable's TK is.  If it's current, their survival is highly debatable.  If it's in his prime...Well, the aliens don't stand a chance. "
No matter what the strength of his tk is, he still has guns, which kill Aliens all the time, now add the optic blast that can take out multiple targets at once and kinetically charged anything Gambit can pick up, and they will take this. "

Again, you're missing my point.  The aliens of the advantage of first attack. The team enters unaware of the aliens for the first 20 minutes (or until the aliens make themselves known).  I'm stating that a proper surprise attack could easily incapacitate Cyclops or Gambit (a stab with the tail, or a slash across the chest).  Under the assumption an alien gets close enough to accomplish this, it is like Cable or anyone else will open fire...The problem? They're unaware of the acidic blood.  This could spill on the incapacitated character, killing them or eliminating them from this match.   
 
Gambit "blowing up stuff" is a horrible idea because of splash damage from the aliens blood. 
 
I never said Cable couldn't kill them.  My argument lies in the first attack and how it plays out from there.  CAN the team win? Of course.  I just feel people are overlooking the rules stated in the OP entirely.
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#3  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@ThanosIsMad said:
"How many X-Men does it take to kill 25 Brood?   The three can take this, especially with Cable's TK.  "

The brood are far different than this species of alien.  Also, I still think this relies on how powerful Cable's TK is.  If it's current, their survival is highly debatable.  If it's in his prime...Well, the aliens don't stand a chance.
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#4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Primus Inter Pares said:
"@12marvel12 said:
"@k4tzm4n: oh so it was ur idea? i should have known that someone of ur stature would have came up with such a great idea "
K4tz is the resident thread creating genius :) "
Thanks, I try.  Luna has been creating a lot of great threads as well!
 
 
@castleking said:
"way to steal some ones thunder and demand credit.  lmao....
 
 
anyways no one of the sinister group could possibly take out a powered up iceman.
"
Is this directed at me or the OP?
 
@Zen Dog said:
"@k4tzm4n said:

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Zen Dog, 
 
I appreciate when my threads inspire others to create similiar matches.  I actually consider it quite the honor when people do so.  However, what you did was flat-out plagiarism.  You literally copy and pasted my thread, but changed the roster of the X-Men.  As I said, I don't mind when people are inspired to create similiar threads.  This however, is identitcal.  If you sent me a PM and asked about  creating this, I would have had no problem with it at all.  Or, you could have simply put a little note in the OP thanking me for the idea.  This isn't a matter of my ego, not by a long shot.   I just find it to be rather disrespectful, that's all.  "

My bad... I did say NODS!!!! that was ment to u, i didnt think i had to call u out by name thou...No way tryin to be disrespectful........ "

It's okay, I assumed so.  I just felt the need to let you know.  I and many others here take a fair amount of pride in the amount of thought that goes into each match created. 
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#5  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Psyker star said:
" @Thunder God said:
" @Mr. Dead Pool said:
"Way I see Cable is the only one who walks away from this fight. Gambit is useless, and Cyclops can't go 360 with his attacks lika Cable can with his guns. "
Yeah Cable is the soul survivor "
No cyclops would hear the things before they attacked i am not sure about gambit though "

What makes Cyclops able to hear the aliens before Gambit?  Gambit would be just as astute as Cyclops, if not more-so, due to his history of being a theif and needing to be on alert.  Cyclops, would be alert due to his tactical mind...But this doesn't mean they'll be able to easily detect an alien before it closes the gap in this environment consisting of vents, dark coordiors, narrow paths, small rooms, and so forth.
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#7  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"@k4tzm4n said:

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This is really up to the poster, IMO.  If the team is unaware of the aliens for 20 minutes, it's possible for a surpirse attack to work, incapacitating one of them.  This is because: 
A) None of them have enhanced senses, enabling them to detect the aliens in the dim, and small environment, filled with plenty of hiding spaces.  It isn't like the aliens will just blind rush them, I see it as a surpirse attack like the first assault in Aliens. 
B) Assuming one is incapacitated, it's still tough to call.  Gambit's abilities hinder him.  They disable him from effectively dropping one in close combat (explosives would only harm  him, as we've seen VS Constrictor and him blinding himself).  I also question if his bo-staff attacks would even be able to KO an alien.  We've seen they are durable enough to withstand pistol rounds. 
C) Cable has his TK...Well, how powerful is it?  We've seen him hold off a restrained Silver Surfer and levitate multiple people at once.   D) Cyclops has the best bet, IMO.  His concussive optic blast will knock away all aliens, and his tactical mind should keep him on high alert...However, due to the environment, a surprise attack is still possible, and his durability could render him incapacitated with a well placed slash.   "

Why would they need enhanced senses?  regular humans detect Aliens sneaking up on them all the time, now these guys have powers to react after they register the threat.  If Cable is sitll Cable then he is a cyborg and has enhanced senses at least in one eye, Cyclops visor also gives him enhanced visual preceptions to a point and Cable has shown that he can use his tk to scan his surroundings the way he did during Revolution when he used a tk probe to tell him that walls were thick as adamanitum. "
The OP says they don't know about the aliens until 20 minutes after they arrive.  This means they are searching through the facility, on alert...But not expecting a threat such as the aliens.  This gives them the potential of first attack, which I think they are capable of doing.  IF someone with enhanced senses was on the team, they could detect the threats and potential locations.
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#8  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Zen Dog, 
 
I appreciate when my threads inspire others to create similiar matches.  I actually consider it quite the honor when people do so.  However, what you did was flat-out plagiarism.  You literally copy and pasted my thread, but changed the roster of the X-Men.  As I said, I don't mind when people are inspired to create similiar threads.  This however, is identitcal.  If you sent me a PM and asked about  creating this, I would have had no problem with it at all.  Or, you could have simply put a little note in the OP thanking me for the idea.  This isn't a matter of my ego, not by a long shot.   I just find it to be rather disrespectful, that's all. 
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#9  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Zen Dog, 
 
I appreciate when my threads inspire others to create similiar matches.  I actually consider it quite the honor when people do so.  However, what you did was flat-out plagiarism.  You literally copy and pasted my thread, but changed the roster of the X-Men.  As I said, I don't mind when people are inspired to create similiar threads.  This however, is identitcal.  If you sent me a PM and asked about  creating this, I would have had no problem with it at all.  Or, you could have simply put a little note in the OP thanking me for the idea.  This isn't a matter of my ego, not by a long shot.   I just find it to be rather disrespectful, that's all. 
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#10  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

This is really up to the poster, IMO.  If the team is unaware of the aliens for 20 minutes, it's possible for a surpirse attack to work, incapacitating one of them.  This is because: 
A) None of them have enhanced senses, enabling them to detect the aliens in the dim, and small environment, filled with plenty of hiding spaces.  It isn't like the aliens will just blind rush them, I see it as a surpirse attack like the first assault in Aliens. 
B) Assuming one is incapacitated, it's still tough to call.  Gambit's abilities hinder him.  They disable him from effectively dropping one in close combat (explosives would only harm  him, as we've seen VS Constrictor and him blinding himself).  I also question if his bo-staff attacks would even be able to KO an alien.  We've seen they are durable enough to withstand pistol rounds.  Also, in the event he does kill one with an explosion, this will in turn likely cause the alien to blow up, splattering it's acidic blood everywhere, posing a major threat.
C) Cable has his TK...Well, how powerful is it?  We've seen him hold off a restrained Silver Surfer and levitate multiple people at once.   
D) Cyclops has the best bet, IMO.  His concussive optic blast will knock away all aliens, and his tactical mind should keep him on high alert...However, due to the environment, a surprise attack is still possible, and his durability could render him incapacitated with a well placed slash.