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Just did an image search on google and that was it! Thanks a lot. Sorry again about it being off-topic. You are da' bomb.

Sorry about this being off topic, but I tried to start a new topic and there was no button to post it once I had typed it out, so here goes: I've been trying like hell to remember the title to a specific comic book that was out in the early 2000's but just can't seem to remember it. It was a fantasy-type setting featuring a young boy who's father died(i don't remember how) while being a general do-gooder. He was left his father's gloves and boots which basically gave him super strength and was joined by a mechanical golem, a swordswoman and a male warrior. I think there was some sort of priest/wizard helping him too, but I'm not sure about that. The art was pretty good as I recall with a slight manga feel to it. (boy's eyes were large, etc.) I sticks in my mind because I always found it the visual of a small boy wearing over-sized guantlets and boots heaving boulders and breaking swords in his hands humorous. Any help would be appreciated. OH ! One more thing, It might have been an Image comic...but I'm not sure about that either. Please help me I am going out of my mind trying to remember this comic.

Sorry about this being off topic, but I tried to start a new topic and there was no button to post it once I had typed it out, so here goes:

I've been trying like hell to remember the title to a specific comic book that was out in the early 2000's but just can't seem to remember it. It was a fantasy-type setting featuring a young boy who's father died(i don't remember how) while being a general do-gooder. He was left his father's gloves and boots which basically gave him super strength and was joined by a mechanical golem, a swordswoman and a male warrior. I think there was some sort of priest/wizard helping him too, but I'm not sure about that.

The art was pretty good as I recall with a slight manga feel to it. (boy's eyes were large, etc.)

I sticks in my mind because I always found it the visual of a small boy wearing over-sized guantlets and boots heaving boulders and breaking swords in his hands humorous. Any help would be appreciated.

OH ! One more thing, It might have been an Image comic...but I'm not sure about that either.

Please help me I am going out of my mind trying to remember this comic.

Superman, Supreme, and Hyperion (from Supreme Power) OR

Batman (battle tactics), Superman (raw power), Dr. Strange (ranged back-up) OR

Zatanna (magic), Xavier (psionics), Green Lantern (energy)

                   OR the Ultimate:

Beyonder, Molecule Man, Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet

Who posted that if a character has ever been defeated then they are not the most powerful? If that is the case, then the most powerful character is John Smith, the guy who lives down the street from Clark Kent and has never been in a fight in his entire life. I don't know any Marvel Character who has never been defeated. Even the Beyonder got stripped of his powers by Doctor Doom for a short while before regaining them and ending Secret Wars. Most powerful does not neccessarily mean unstoppable or unbeatable.
Post Edited:2007-05-14 10:58:42

And by the way, Buck...the new avatar rocks!

Just so it's on record, Moon Knight superhuman strength reaches it peak under the full moon, where he is able to lift approx. 1 ton. He has shown a slight ability to push beyond this barrier for short periods of time, however it has never exceeded 2 tons. This level is commiserate with Killer Croc strength's level; (which, unlike MK, is consistent) and so is not outside Batman's realm of experience. Above information courtesy of the Official Marvel Univeral Handbook.

On a side note, I find it interesting that Batman creates such contraversy...Why is that? He is a universal archtype who has been around for a very long time and has spawned many spin-offs, copycats and wannabes. Is it so hard to believe the character of Batman is capable of dealing with the likes of Moon Knight?

For those of you who simply cannot handle Batman's success or abilities, however logical they may be, here something for you to chew on: Perhaps Batman has one superpower...superhuman competency. He's just ridiculously good at what he does. Does that make him unstoppable? No. Does that mean he is overrated as a fighter? No. All of the reasons I have seen as argument against Batman's abilities so far are either devoid of any form of logic, or simply fan-boy attempts to support Captain Whoever.

I don't believe that in a battle thread, those sorts of things mean to much. After all, we're not talking about Thanos vs. His Own Fear of Success...It's Superman vs. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. If we are going to bring out all of the character's foibles and personal problems to determine battle wins and losses then most (if not all) villians vs. heroes battles would end with the hero winning because well...they're the heroes. By that same logic, most hero vs. hero battles would either not happen at all (because they're both good guys, man) or would end in a team-up where they realize that some long-lost enemy of theirs is pulling the strings from behind that bush over there and now it's time for justice to prevail! The way I see it, these threads are about power level and fighting skill, etc. Not about putting the character's on the therapist's sofa. One last point: Thanos killed A LOT of heroes in his pursuit of ultimate power (among them: Captain America, Vision, Thor, etc.) before they were all brought back accidentally by his niece once she obtained the gauntlet. Even if we included in this battle thread Thanos' deeply ingrained psychological problems, all that means is he would be defeated at some point before he succeeds in ruling the universe. Nothing would stop him from simply killing Superman and moving on. (Like when he killed so many heroes single-handedly the first time around; see above). Really good memory on Thanos' personality, though. Kudos.
Post Edited:2007-05-10 13:19:09

Let's see...Superman charges Thanos at ridiculous metahuman speed (or heat vision from a distance, or flings a bus whatever, doesn't matter) whereupon Thanos, reacting instantaneously to this action by sensing Superman's mental intention with the Mind Gem, freezes time across the whole universe. Laughing manaically at his impending victory, Thanos rearranges Superman's molecular structure and rewrites his destiny on the Strands of Fate to transform him into a...cheeseburger! The most Super Cheeseburger in the world! Faster than a speeding heart attack, able to leap tall arteries in a single bound! Not feeling particularly hungry himself, Thanos decides the most fitting punishment for this pathetic upstart is to allow the ants on the ground to consume the burger slowly...after wiping the dog-poo from his boot onto the bun and cushing it into the asphalt.

With time still frozen, Thanos senses other beings within the universe who would resist his rule. Not being the kind to make the same mistake twice (by allowing a lengthy battle in which he might possibly be tricked out of the gauntlet) he wills all beings in said universe (save himself, of course) to simply cease to exist while simultaneously teleporting to a pocket dimension where he and his girlfriend Death have a quiet romantic interlude immediately preceeding his total domination of all creation.

First of all, the Hulk is only able to attain such levels of strength after becoming enraged (strength proportional to anger). I have allowed in my example above for said increases in strength.

Second, this is not a normal battle, it is an arm-wrestling, thumb war, headbutt contest. So Hulk isn't going at it for extended periods of time to get anywhere near "full-power".

Third, the occassion wherein the Hulk held a mountain weighing 150 billion tons happened during Secret Wars...on another dimension where things happened which had no correlation to Marvel continuity. The Thing could revert to human form there, Spiderman was endowed with vast cosmic powers, ect. Not repeatable, out of the ordinary, not dependable.

Fourth, even if you discount everything above try this on for size: 80,000 tons is like Superman's "operating capacity" it is the standard norm which he is capable of displaying regularly, repeatedly and easily. Superman has actually displayed strength quite in excess of this range (as has the Hulk during Secret Wars...see above). So you basically have two options:

           1) Assume they are both operating within standard, repeatable, reliable ranges of strength -  In which case the Hulk lifts between 90 and 150 tons; Superman lifts over 80,000 tons.                       OR           2) Assume the best of both (since assuming the best of one and not the other is unfair and biased) and put them both at the absolute top of their game - In which case Hulk can hold 150 billion tons; Superman can move the planet Earth or 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilotons. Approximately 6.58 sextillion tons. HUGE difference.            Either way, Superman is simply way stronger than the Hulk...So much stronger that any outcome other than that previously stated would be simply ludicrous.