jwalser3's forum posts

#1 Edited by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio

@4thor: Why wouldn't Shazam be in the same Universe as BvS. Same goes for Constantine and iZombie.

#2 Edited by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Alright alright this is getting good.

My Skill

In terms of h2h I say they seem about equal. Just that KGBeast always has his blade/gun always ready. So he can always pop off shots in h2h. But in actual skill...this might seem like an odd tactic but...NVKDemon.

KGBeast is so skilled he was able to have a prodigy and train him so well that he was able to beat Batman the first time they fought.

This might seem odd, but it shows that KGBeast is such a skilled fighter that he can actually teach others and have them become just as skilled.

The Tortoise and the Hair

Crossbones is fast, faster then I thought. How ever will KGBeast handle him. Well believe it or not but KGBeast is able to tag and grab very agile characters. such as...

Bltizs a man before he can fire his gun

Vs. King Snake

He's been able to hang with the likes of King Snake

Vs. Arsenal

And has been able to catch people as agile as Arsenal.

So Crossbones speed, while helpful, doesn't make him out of Beast's grasp

Our clocks

Crossbones is no doubtfully good with weapons. But let me show you how well KGB is with what he has.

He's been able to tag Batman with a throwing knife.

This is just showing off his range/melee combo. This can come in handle if Corssbone evades a slash or stab.

Your gear, my gear

I wouldn't say he has a wide array. It's just a lot of guns. Guns that he'll have to switch out to use. This can give KGB the edge when he tries reloading or switching to a new weapon. Unlike the Beast, all his weapons are ready to go. So just keep that in mind. And for your gas bolt, the only thing that is different is that it's just smoke, I think Cap jerked back because of the explosion of the bolt. My gas will cause Crossbones to panic and quickly escape the cloud of tear gas.

ecessary gear to hurt him (repeated gunshot wounds will bring him down)

I never said he wouldn't be brought down. Just that he can soak up a little gunfire thanks to cybernetics.

In the end

I still believe KGBeast has

  • Durability
  • Weapons
  • Strength

Over Crossbones. While Crossbones is more agile, KGBeast has caught faster opponents.

KGBeast should be able to handle Crossbones from a good range and when it comes down to h2h, Crossbones just wont make it out alive.

#3 Posted by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't wait. I just hope they get back to the Born soon. They teased it and never went back to them and it's been like 4 episodes.

#4 Posted by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Edited by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio

The KGBeast

So, Crossbones plans on fighting the might KGBeast uh? Well lets look at what this lil hulk can do.

Who is the KGBeast?

Trained by Hammer, a secret KGB group the KGBeast is a master of over several different fighting styles has enhanced strength. He is also a master of every single weapon on the planet. So not only does he have his cybernetic arm, he can also use weapons he may get from Crossbones if he drops or loses one.

You can tell because of how he awkwardly holds that pistol

Skills

Skill wise, the Beast is up there. Facing people like Batman, Robin, and Huntress. Both of our combatants have several different martial arts mastered, so this is going to be tough. We have to use feats!

Vs. Batman 1

During his first encounter with the Bat, Beast completely shocked Bruce. Saying how skilled and fast he was, fighting like an animal. He then was able to evade Batman and continue with his mission.

He was also able to defeat Huntress.

While it is off panel it should count for something I believe.

This is just to give you a idea of the skill KGBeast has.

Fire Power

As I said before, KGBeast could possibly disarm Crossbones and use his own weapons against him. But the beast is packing a good amount of fire power.

His arm is a pocket knife basically. It contains the following

  • Machine Gun
  • Blade
  • Tear Gas
  • Explosive Rounds
  • Possibly a flame thrower(I might have the scan somewhere)

Any way, on with the feats!

Explosive round capable of blasting through a wall

Tear Gas

The rest like his machine gun and blade should be explanatory. So not only does he have the chance of picking up a weapon from Crossbones, he has his own on arm army.

He's a beast for a reason!

KGBeast's durability will give him quite the edge in this fight. Thanks to his cybernetics he has enhanced durability. I know Crossbones has punched Cap and such but I dare say KGBeast's durability is higher.

Falls from a multi-story building and lands on a car, crushing it. Walks away fine.

Crossbones is going to have to work rather hard to put KGBeast in the ground. He can tank gunfire pretty easily as well.

Tanks a shot gun blasts

So his gunfire, while it will effect him, it won't take him out of the game for good.

In the end

In the end KGBeast has these over Crossbones

  • Weapons
  • Durability

I will say they are both on the same skill level and I will comment on speed when I see some speed feats for Crossbones.

#7 Edited by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio

Good day ladies and gentlemen! Tonight you're in for a show, in one corner, the Super Soviet, the animal of Gotham...KGBeast! In the other corner we have the Savage Leader, the day of the dead fanatic, Crossbones!

KGBeast -@jwalser3

Crossbones - @comicstooge

Fight will take place in a random New York street will no bystanders.

  • No prep
  • No prior knowledge
  • Morals on
  • Starting distance: 20 feet away
  • Win by death
  • KGBeast: Standard gear
  • Crossbones: Standard costume, assorted knives, assault rifle, twin SMGs, a pistol and a collapsible crossbow

Challenge A Viner Rules:

  • Do not start extra arguments, post unnecessary scans/videos or interfere in the debate itself in any way. If you wish to inform either of us on anything important or correct us on a point, send us a private message.
  • If any of the above is excessively broken, we may request a mod to assist.
  • Your vote should be decided based on the debating quality and abilities of the participants. Not necessarily on the characters they are representing.
  • A reason for your voting choice would be greatly appreciated too.
  • Regular posting/commenting is fine.
  • As always, may the best debater win.

@comicstooge Everything check out?

#8 Posted by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Posted by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Alright awesome! What weapons will Crossbones be using? Prep or no prep, etc.?

#10 Posted by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio