"How Captain America in AVENGERS gave the true meaning behind everything IRON MAN 3"

Kind of spoilerish, but if you've seen the movie, read on!

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Kind of spoilerish but feel free to read after you've seen the movie, if you already have then read on...

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Iron Man 3 is Tony Stark's search for the answer to Captain America's question back in The Avengers: "Big man in a suit of armor. Take that away -- what are you?"

Tony had been holding onto his arc reactor chest piece because he thought it defined who he was as Iron Man, which is also why he spent a lot of sleepless nights building and building more armors.

In the end of IM3, with the help of the Extremis formula on Pepper, Tony could use it and also finally let his arc reactor go because he finally understood that Iron Man is the man who "built" the armor (The Mechanic) and not the armor that wears the man.

That similar meaning is also conveyed between Aldrich Killian and the real meaning behind The Mandarin. In other words, Killian was Tony, while The Mandarin was just Killian's suit of armor.

"I am the Mandarin" was what Killian said to Tony during their final

battle

, which did two things: 1st it highlighted probably Mandarin's most famous line "You'll never see me coming." 2nd it also reverberated the last thing Tony said before the end.

And despite that Tony no longer has any Iron Man suits to wear, it didn't matter anymore because like Tony said in the end of the film even without the armor, "I... AM... Iron Man".

P.S.

On a different sidenote, Killian was the human version of The Mandarin's Fing Fang Foom complete with dragon tattoos and fire breath!

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Green Lantern Movie Recap for Dummies - All Plot Holes Answered!

For those that haven't seen the film, this shows you why the critics have given this film such NEGATIVE REVIEWS because of all the messy PLOT HOLES and inconsistencies the movie entails. For those that have already seen the movie, simply... enjoy! Btw, here's the Actual Plot / Script of the movie - Link to Green Lantern WIKI - to compare and follow along! Oh did I mention... PLOT HOLES? Enjoy!
 
Credit By "Topless Robot": http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/06/topless_robot_presents_the_best_scenes_from_the_gr.php 
 

Scene 1 - Ferris Air Base (Control Center)

Blake Lively's Dad: As head of Ferris Air, I want to sell my super-awesome drones to the military. So I'm going have Hal Jordan and my daughter Blake Lively, my own two test pilots, fight them and presumably lose.

Military Guy: Huh? Why would you do that? Why would you think we would be okay with that? You could have just secretly told your pilots to lose on purpose so we buy your drones. If you were even slightly intelligent, you would have definitely done that instead.

Blake Lively's Dad: Don't worry, gentlemen. Hal Jordan is such an a--hole, he will be unable to resist trying to win. I promise.

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Scene 2 - Ferris Air Base (Blake Lively's Dad's Office); after Hal and Blake return from air drone training

Blake Lively's Dad: Well, Hal, you used my daughter as a decoy and then cheated to defeat the drones.

Blake Lively: Specifically, you used me as a decoy, but didn't actually use that to your benefit, meaning you had me shot down for no reason whatsoever.

Blake Lively's Dad: Now the military is going to refuse the contract, I'm going to have to fire countless employees. Good men will lose their livelihoods because of you.

Blake Lively: And although you're supposedly such an awesome pilot, you had a total freakout for no reason whatsoever and also ended up destroying your incredibly expensive plane too.

Hal Jordan: (shrugs) Oh well. Whatcha gonna do?

Blake Lively's Dad: Christ, what an a--hole.

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Scene 3 - Off the Coast; Abin Sur's spacecraft crashed

Abin Sur: Hal Jordan. The ring has chosen you because you are fearless.

(1 minute earlier - inside an energy ball)
Hal Jordan: I'm afraid of being in this crazy green energy ball!

(10 minutes earlier - during air training)
Hal Jordan: I'm afraid of dying in a test plane like my dad!

(15 minutes after getting the ring - in a bar with Blake)
Hal Jordan: I'm afraid of intimacy!

(25 minutes later - in Oa)
Hal Jordan: I'm afraid of being a Green Lantern!

(30 minutes later - in Hal's apartment)
Hal Jordan: I'm afraid I suck as a Green Lantern!

Blake Lively: You do suck. Hard

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Scene 4 - Outside the bar

Newly Unemployed Man: Hal Jordan, you needlessly cost us our jobs at Air Ferris, apparently just to be a dick. We are going to beat you up outside this bar.

Hal Jordan: Hyah! (tries to throw punch, ends up throwing giant green fist; men go flying into walls and car windows)

Newly Unemployed Man: Really? The first use of your superpower is going to beat several men who you got fired unconscious?

Hal Jordan: Guess so!

Newly Unemployed Man: Christ, what an a--hole. (falls unconscious)

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Scene 5 - Government Laboratory

Hector Hammond: I am a quiet if awkward Xenobiology 101 teacher that shows no aggression or ill will toward anybody. I hope I don't get infected with an alien parasite that makes my head grow and makes me evil, because at the moment, I'm significantly more sympathetic than Hal Jordan! Now, to dissect this purple alien!

(sticks hand in Abin Sur's wound, immediately gets infected with Parallax)

Hector Hammond: Well, sh**.

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Scene 6 - Oa; after Hal Jordan flies to Oa where 3,000 other Green Lanterns are gathered by Sinestro

Sinestrop: Lanterns! There is a new evil loose in the universe. It's killed a few Green Lanterns including Abin Sur and two whole planets. It's coming here to Oa. So prepare yourself for battle. It may take our lives... but it will never take... our freedom!

3,000 Green Lantern Corps: Bravehea-- we mean, Green Lantern Corps! Green Lantern Corps! Hurray for battle cries and making planets glow in the dark with our rings!

(a minute later)

Jeremy Clarke Kilowog: Hal Jordan, now that you've arrived on Oa, let's train for two minutes.

(they train for two minutes; Sinestro arrives)

Sinestro: Hal Jordan, Abin Sur was the greatest Green Lantern ever. You embarrass him by wearing his ring. And even though my name sounds pure evil, and though I also may look like a bad guy with my pencil-thin mustache, the fact is... I've been fighting for good in this whole movie so far.  And since you've just been a huge douchebag throught the film, I am obviously right about my assessment. The audience even says I'm more likeable than you too, even though the Mom's think I look like an intergalactic pedophile.

Hal Jordan: This Green Lantern sh** is hard. I quit.

Sinestro: What?

Hal Jordan: Yeah, I'm going home. See if I can bang Blake Lively or something.

Sinestro: Seriously? You're chosen to guard part of the universe, and not only are you quitting after two minutes, leaving countless lives in jeopardy, you're not even going to try? How the hell are you the hero of this film?

Hal Jordan: Not sure. Sniff you jerks later! (flies off)

Jeremy Clarke Kilowog: Christ, what an a--hole.

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Scene 7 - Oa; Guardian's Circle

Sinestro: Guardians! There is a new evil loose in the universe. It's killed a few Green Lanterns including Abin Sur and two whole planets. It comes from the planet where Abin Sur imprisoned Parallax. Also, survivors say it's really yellow and evil, just like Parallax. Also, it looks like Parallax.

Guardians: ...

Sinestro: I think it might be Parallax.

Guardians: Okay, we'll get around to that.

Sinestro: Really? You're going to be morally ambiguous here? I know you've been dicks in the comics for years, but this is the very first movie. If you aren't clearly good, it makes the entire Green Lantern concept questionable to people who are learning about Green Lantern for the first time. And frankly, Hal isn't earning us any good will either.

Guardians: Um... we have to go do our hair.

Sinestro: Goddammit.

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Scene 8 - Huge Party at Blake Lively's Dad's Mansion

Blake Lively's Dad: Well, Hal, despite you being a total prick, we got the military contract anyways. You are invited to this big fancy party that I'm throwing with the money I ended up saving after I fired all those people.

Hal Jordan: Awesome. (steals people's drinks even though there's an open bar)

Hector Hammond's Dad: I am going to think mean things about you, son, and then get on a helicopter.

Hector Hammond: I'm going to hear those mean things, because of my new ill-defined powers, and then I'm going to break your helicopter while it's in flight.

(Hector Hammond's Dad gets in helicopter, it takes off, Hector Hammond breaks it with his mind, it crashes at the edge of the party and slides length-wise through a pool of panicking party goers, potentially killing dozens of people)

Blake Lively: Oh no! The helicopter is getting close to me!

Hal Jordan: I have finally decided to help! (puts helicopter on elaborate, ostentatious giant Hot Wheels track instead of just stopping it)

Every Single Other Person at the Party: Christ, what an a--hole.

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Scene 9 - Oa; Guardian's Circle; Sinestro and Guardians part 2

Sinestro: Well, guess f**king what? It was Parallax. Killed a bunch more Green Lanterns, too. Mind telling me what you know about Parallax now?

Guardians: (sighs) Okay. At one point we thought about fighting evil with the yellow emotion of fear in addition to the green emotion of willpower.

Sinestro: Willpower is not an emotion.

Guardians: Shut up. Anyways, turns out that the yellow power of fear was too powerful and uncontrollable and totally evil, and it even possessed one of the Guardians, who transformed into Parallax. So really, our messing with the yellow power of fear is what caused this entire problem in the first place.

Sinestro: I have an idea: Let's do that exact same thing. And maybe make a yellow power ring or something.

Guardians: That is the BEST. PLAN. EVER.

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Scene 10 - Hal's apartment; after attacking Hector Hammond in Laboratory

Hal Jordan: I'm seriously afraid of being a Green Lantern.

Blake Lively: Jesus, really? Still? The movie is two-thirds over at this point. Can't you do something heroic?

Hal Jordan: Well, I just fought Hector Hammond. Although he totally kicked my a** and managed to kill his dad while I was there.

Blake Lively: That's not heroic at all. How did you even get away?

Hal Jordan: I don't really know. I kind of put my ring on him and it pushed him across the room. And then the scene just ended.

Blake Lively: You mean, you didn't follow him or anything?

Hal Jordan:Nope. Actually, the very next scene was Hector waking up in his cozy bed in his own cozy apartment, so it's not like he's even trying to hide or anything. Apparently I just couldn't care less what he does.

Blake Lively: Ugh. Look, Hal. You're clearly afraid of everything, ever. So obviously what the purple alien dude meant is that you aren't fearless, but that you have the power to overcome fear. Even though he specifically called you fearless and you've given zero evidence that you can actually overcome fear to any degree.

Hal Jordan: Huh? I wasn't listening. Anyways, I'm going to go away for a while and let Hector capture you in your sleep. (flies off)

Blake Lively: Christ, what an a--hole.

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Scene 11 - Hector Hammond's apartment; after getting beat up by Green Lantern

Parallax: HEY, HECTOR.

Hector Hammond: Hey, Parallax.

Parallax: I AM GOING TO THE PLANET OA TO EAT EVERYBODY. WHAT ARE YOU UP TO?

Hector Hammond: Well, you made me evil, so I'm going to f**k around with Hal Jordan and Blake Lively because of some tenuous connection in our past that the movie only alluded to like five minutes ago,

Parallax: OKAY, COOL. HEY, HAL JORDAN WEARS THE RING OF THE DUDE WHO IMPRISONED ME, RIGHT? I THINK I'LL COME TO EARTH, EAT HIM AND ALL OF HUMANITY, AND THEN I'LL BE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO GO TO OA AND DEFEAT THE GUARDIANS AND ALL THE GREEN LANTERNS!

Hector Hammond: ...doesn't that mean you aren't powerful enough to defeat the Guardians and Green Lanterns right now?

Parallax: WELL... YES.

Hector Hammond: So... why were you going to Oa?
(pause)

Parallax: OH SH**! I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN! I WAS ABOUT TO GET MY A** KICKED!

Hector Hammond: Yeah, you were!

Parallax: I'M SO GLAD I CALLED!

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Scene 12 - Oa; Guardian's Circle; Hal flies to Oa to speak with the Guardians

Hal Jordan: Guardians! I'm ready to be a hero now! Parallax is heading to Earth! And we don't have much time, because the movie is like 6/7ths over!

Guardians: Okay... what do you want?

Hal Jordan: I want you to send all the Green Lanterns to Earth to fight Parallax!

Guardians: (pretending to think) ...nah.

Hal Jordan: Really?

Guardians: Really.

Hal Jordan: Well, let me fight on Earth's behalf!

Guardians: Huh?

Hal Jordan: I said, let me fight on Ea--

Guardians: We know what you said. But did we ever tell you, that you couldn't fight for Earth?

Hal Jordan: Well... no...

Guardians: Actually, have we told you anything at all in this movie? Ever?

Hal Jordan: Um... I guess not.
 
Guardians: Have you even been introduced to us in this movie?
 
Hal Jordan: ... Hi! I'm Hal Jordan!

Guardians: Have we ever appeared to have given the tiniest sh** about you? Even when you quit the Green Lantern Corps but still took your Power Ring with you?

Hal Jordan: No, not really.

Guardians: So why would you ask us permission to fight for your own planet?

Hal Jordan: Well... I guess I needed a plot device for a reason to fight the Parallax solo, rather than look like a tool fighting alongside the other 3,000 Green Lantern Corps that came by to hear Sinestro's Braveheart speech about an hour ago.

Guardians: Go ahead. Knock yourself out.

Hal Jordan: Oh. I guess I'll be going then. (flies back to Earth)

Guardians: Christ, what an a--hole.

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Scene 13 - Ferris Airbase Hanger; Hector captures a sleeping Blake Lively

Hector Hammond: I have captured Blake Lively!

Hal Jordan: You certainly have. Let her go, and you can have my Green Lantern ring.

Hector Hammond: Bullsh**. Only people who are worthy can wear a Power Ring. I've never read a Green Lantern comic and even I know that.

Hal Jordan: No, it's cool. Seriously. (tosses ring to Hector, Hector puts it on)

Hector Hammond: Holy sh**! (uses ring to blast a wall) Uh-oh, the GL fanboys are going to lose their sh** over this.

Hal Jordan: Ha ha! I lied! You have to be chosen to use the ring!

Hector Hammond: Dude. I just used it. You saw me. I clearly don't have to be chosen.

(ring suddenly tases Hector for no discernable reason; Parallax breaks into the building)

Parallax: I SEE THAT GREEN LANTERN! HE'S STILL ALIVE! HECTOR HAMMOND, YOU HAVE FAILED ME! I EAT YOU NOW! OM-NOM-NOM-NOM.

(Parallax eats Hector's soul, drops body to the floor, which is still wearing the Power Ring)

Hal Jordan: Hey.

Parallax: HEY. SO... YOU GOING TO SUMMON YOUR RING TO YOU AND FIGHT ME OR SOMETHING?

Hal Jordan: Apparently I can't do that. I have to walk over there and pick it up.

Parallax: REALLY? THAT'S BULLSH**. OH WELL, YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR TIME TO GET YOUR RING AND TALK TO BLAKE LIVELY, AND GO AHEAD AND TAKE SOME MORE TIME TO COLLECT YOURSELF. I'LL JUST GO LEAVE AND EAT SOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY OR SOMETHING.

Hal Jordan: Thanks, dude!

Hector Hammond's Corpse: Christ, what an a--hole.

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Scene 14 - Outer Space; after Hal uses a propeller to blow past Parallax into space

Hal Jordan: Parallax!

Parallax: VAN WILDER!

Hal Jordan: It is the final battle! I am one lone, incredibly sh*tty Green Lantern!

Parallax: SPEAKING OF SH*T, WHERE ARE YOUR OTHER 3,000 FRIENDS?

Hal Jordan:
Oh, I used a plot device earlier to have them all scrapped. We couldn't afford to go over our $150 million budget. (...oops!)

Parallax:
WELL IN THAT CASE... I AM PARALLAX! THE ULTIMATE EVIL IN THE UNIVERSE WHO CAN DESTROY WHOLE PLANETS AND HORDES OF GREEN LANTERNS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ABIN SUR!

Hal Jordan: Yes! But when you were chasing me I flew really close to the Sun! And now you're being sucked into its gravitational pull!
(pause)

Parallax: OH, SH**.

Hal Jordan: Yep!
 
Parallax: GOD, THIS IS EMBARRASSING. IT'S THE GALACTIC EQUIVALENT OF NOT LOOKING BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET.
 
Hal Jordan: Seriously. I can't believe all the Green Lanterns had such a tough time with you, because you are one stupid motherf**ker.

Parallax: HOW THE HELL DID THIS EVEN HAPPEN? WEREN'T WE JUST PASSING BY THE ASTEROID BELTS BETWEEN MARS AND JUPITER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM? HOW THE HELL DID WE GET TO THE SUN?
 
Hal Jordan: I dunno. Who pays attention to all these details anyway? Not the audience.
 
Parallax: SERIOUSLY, IT'S LIKE A LOONEY TUNES CARTOON, WHERE WILE E. COYOTE MAKES A PIT AND COVERS IT WITH STICKS OR SOME SH** THEN FALLS OFF A PIT. I CAN'T BELIEVE I EVEN FELL FOR IT.
 
Hal Jordan: You know what the best part is? Even though you were defeated by your own stupidity, we're all going to pretend that this fulfills my heroic journey and all the Green Lanterns will like me now! Even Sinestro!

Parallax: F**K. REALLY?

Hal Jordan: Yep!

Parallax: CHRIST, WHAAT AN AAAAAASSSSHHHHOOOOOLLLLL-- (gets sucked into the sun and burns up)

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Scene 15 - Oa; after the credits roll

Sinestro: I have been significantly more heroic than Hal Jordan this entire film. I tried to protect the universe. I actually fought Parallax instead of just tricking him into flying into the sun. I called Hal Jordan a douche, but only while he was totally being a douche. I only wanted the clearly evil Yellow Power Ring to fight the evil of Parallax and save lives. And just a minute ago, I talked about how awesome Hal was in front of the whole Green Lantern Corps for the film's final scene.

Sinestro: (continues) I have been a good guy for the entirety of the movie... while Hal's only been a hero for maybe 10%, 15% tops.

(roll credits)

Sinestro: I'm not putting on the Yellow Power Ring.

Hal Jordan: Oh yes you are.

Sinestro: No I'm not. I have no motivation to do it. Parallax is dead, albeit in a very stupid way. I've been a good guy the entire film. It's totally against my character as established throughout the movie.

Hal Jordan: Sorry, you're the bad guy in the sequel.

Sinestro: There's not going to be a sequel! This movie sucked! It doesn't even look like we're going to break even!

Hal Jordan: Maybe, but you still gotta put it on. Just in case.

Sinestro: Goddammit. (puts on Yellow Power Ring, his outfit transforms into his Sinestro Corps uniform)

Hal Jordan: Thanks, dude! Sniff you later! (flies off)

Sinestro: Christ, what an a--hole. 


 
 Um... I guess the PLOT HOLES were still unanswered... oops!
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DC Relaunch: Post-Flashpoint = Just another PARTIAL Reboot (sigh)

We have 2 conflicting and contradictory stories from DC Vice President of Sales - Bob Wayne.
 
Is it a reboot or not?
 
Bob Wayne on May 31st:

Quote:

To our comics retail partners,

In the time I've worked at DC Comics, I've witnessed any number of industry defining moments. But today, I bring you what is perhaps the biggest news to date.

Many of you have heard rumors that DC Comics has been working on a big publishing initiative for later this year.

This is indeed an historic time for us as, come this September, we are relaunching the entire DC Universe line of comic books with all new first issues. 52 of them to be exact.

In addition, the new #1s will introduce readers to a more modern, diverse DC Universe, with some character variations in appearance, origin, and age. All stories will be grounded in each character's legend - but will relate to real world situations, interactions, tragedy and triumph.


This epic event will kick off on Wednesday, August 31st with the debut of a brand new JUSTICE LEAGUE #1, which pairs Geoff Johns and Jim Lee, together for the first time. (Yes, this is the same week as FLASHPOINT #5.)

We think our current fans will be excited by this evolution, and that it will make jumping into the story extremely accessible to first-time readers - giving them a chance to discover DC's characters and stories.

We are positioning ourselves to tell the most innovative stories with our characters to allow fans to see them from a new angle. We have taken great care in maintaining continuity where it's most important, but fans will see a new approach to our storytelling.

Some of the characters will have new origins, while others will undergo minor changes. Our characters are always being updated; however, this is the first time all of our characters will be presented in a new way all at once.

Dan DiDio, Bob Harras and Eddie Berganza have been working diligently to pull together some of the best creative teams in the industry. Over 50 new costumes will debut in September, many updated and designed by artist Jim Lee, ensuring that the updated images appeal to the current generation of readers.
Bob Wayne 3 days later on June 2nd:

Quote:
As a follow-up to my first letter, we wanted to provide some immediate specifics on September:

CONTENT

We know that you want more details on the creative teams and their title-by-title assignments for the launch. (And by the way, let me just reiterate this point: this is the launch of the New DCU. It is not a “reboot.” I think you will soon discover why that is.)
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A) "We are relaunching the entire DC Universe line of comic books with all new first issues."

He didn't say "we are relaunching a NEW DC Universe line of comic books". He clearly said "entire" as in the one that currently exists now in the DC Universe.

B) "We think our current fans will be excited by this evolution, and that it will make jumping into the story extremely accessible to first-time readers."

New things do not evolve. Things that have been around for a while are the ones that do evolve.

C) "Some of the characters will have new origins, while others will undergo minor changes."

Hmm, so some characters are going to be "rebooted" while others are just going to be "retconned".

D) "We have taken great care in maintaining continuity where it's most important."

So those characters who's continuity is not that important would be rebooted / retconned.

E) "Some of the characters will have new origins, while others will undergo minor changes. Our characters are always being updated; however, this is the first time all of our characters will be presented in a new way all at once."

Sounds like the same old partial reboot we've seen for the last 3 decades. Cough-cough-Final-Identity-Crisis-of-Infinite-Earths-Zero-Hour-Birthright-Secret-Origins-cough-cough.

F) (3 days later) "...And by the way, let me just reiterate this point: this is the launch of the New DC Universe. It is not a 'reboot'."

Definition of Reboot in fiction: "to change continuity; to relaunch existing continuity and replace it with a new canon (previously established continuity)".

Very contradictory statement from Bob Wayne. So what's his definition of a "reboot" then? Does new origins and new ages mean what exactly? Does he even consider Crisis of Infinite Earths, Final Crisis, Identity Crisis, Zero Hour, etc. reboots or not? Because by definition they are all partial reboots.

Post-Flashpoint basically becoming another Post-Crisis reboot.
 
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Even the writers were told it was a reboot. Not just a reboot, but a full reboot. 
 
J. Straczynski on his conversation with Dan DiDio:

Quote:
"When Dan DiDio comes out to the West Coast, we tend to get a bite for dinner to discuss projects, ideas, books and just hang. Dan is a great guy and an energetic speaker, chockful of ideas and aspirations for DC. As part of that, he shared repeatedly on and off for really more than a year his dream of rebooting the DCU and starting over."

"So I felt confident that it was coming soon (which is one reason why I felt there wouldn’t be a problem in the long run leaving the monthly books, since most of the things done in Superman and Wonder Woman would be erased by the reboot anyway, so ultimately it didn’t matter whether I stayed or left."
Is it a reboot or not?
 
Is a duck... not a duck?
 
Coz from DC's two different points of view: it's not a duck... yet it walks, talks, feels, and tastes like a duck. 
 
Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to 2011's Crisis of Infinite Earths:
 
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Cyborg as 7th Member of JLA Rebooted: A DC Marketing Perspective

 



 The founding 7 members since the introduction of the JLA
The original 7 founding members had always been Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter.
 
Instead, when the reboot was announced to the line-up, a little twist was thrown in revamping the team.

Of all the other original decade long lasting JLA members they could've chosen from including Green Arrow, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Captain Marvel, Atom, Plastic Man, Red Tornado, or Black Canary, DC chose to replace Martian Manhunter with Teen Titan's alumni Cyborg who's been a new JLA member (Kimiyo Hoshi's version of JLA) for what... about a year, only in 2010? 
 
I'm 50-50 since I think, in a marketing perspective, is a really good commercial move for two things (and the major reason DC is doing all this in the first place is to bring in more cash flow from new readers anyway - marketing):

 
 
 
 
1) Ethnicity

This is, in a marketing aspect, partly similar with what Justice League producer Bruce Timm had to say about choosing John Stewart as the Green Lantern in the cartoon series:

Quote:
http://jl.toonzone.net/lantern/lantern.htm

Bruce Timm: He (John Stewart) is the most controversial character so far from what we’ve been gathering on the Internet. When the show’s lineup was first announced, there were a lot of people saying, “Why aren’t they using Hal Jordan? No, it’s got to be Kyle Rayner.”

Obviously, we picked the wrong one, but the reason we did choose John Stewart are various — I think they’re all valid. Right off the bat, I’ll just say it: you know we did need ethnic diversity in the Justice League. We felt that the show is going to be seen worldwide and I think having a member of the Justice League who is not just “Mr. White Bread” is a good thing.

2) DC's version of Iron Man

With Iron man emerging as a major player in Marvel Universe among new generation of fans within this decade, thanks to the film, it's nice to see DC give their "iron" man some publicity in the biggest stage. Plus, it's a new set of power set to toy around among the other members.

JLA 2010-20?? Also, for some reason, I always feel like screaming "M-O-R-T-A-L ... K-O-M-B-A-T !!!" whenever I see those arms
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On the other side, I really wished they had kept Martian Manhunter though since he was one of the original founding 7th member of the JLA.  If anything, they should've just gone with 8 members instead rather than just getting him a replacement.
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Wish DC would focus on Storytelling rather than Rebooting

Storytelling is what makes these characters tick for the last 70 years, not rebooting them
 
My personal take on the DC Universe relaunching in August.

Honestly, I was never fond of reboots, as seen from my history of criticizing Crisis of Infinite Earths and even Brand New Day, because it basically just throws out all the years of stories ever told about that character as if it was nothing. We the fans spent years and years following these characters. To just simply erased those stories out of thin air is not a nice feeling. Reboots are simply the easy way out.

I joked initially when this was first being speculated that DC, even calling it: "Final Crisis of Infinite Flashpoint Earths - Birthright of Secret Origins 52"
 
But unlike all the other reboots, this one is in such a massive scale that long time readers may not be able to find themselves able to relate to new personalities, and the new personas of the characters they grew to love and follow for years and years.

I'm 26 now, but have been reading comics since my Mom bought me my first Superman issue when I was just in grade school:



I've had my disappointments of DC never-ending reboots of Superman's origins: from Man of Steel, to Birthright, to Secret Origins, but this new relaunch of all the DCU is unnerving.

I find it like reading let's just say Amazing Spider-Man, and then the following month you pick up the same book, but yet it reads like Ultimate Spider-Man #1. It has the same characters, the same powers, but the personality is just so different. I could even use the Uncanny X-Men and Ultimate X-Men as well; same characters, but VERY DIFFERENT personality.

Imagine reading Detective Comics and the next issue happens to be All-Star Batman & Robin #1. It's tough to digest.

I understand that this is a business, and that bringing in new audiences are important to generate the cash flow.

I also understand the concept of bringing new life to characters that have been around for 70 years. But that's just it - these characters have evolved over time for the last 70 years. Why the need to reboot them now and start them from scratch? Why not have them evolve over the decades like they've been doing all the way since? These characters have enticed every generation without having a major overhaul, so why start now?
 
Last time DC thought of doing something similar to a partial character reboot, this little number happened:
 

If you thought Superman Blue was bad, it only got worse with Superman Red.

X-Men #1 by Jim Lee himself sold over 8,000,000 copies in 1991 and holds the record still today! That wasn't because they rebooted the characters, it was because they wrote a much better story around the characters everyone already knew and loved.  It also helps that the artwork was awesome too.
 
Instead of rebooting the characters, why not just write better stories? The stories for these superheroes are what evolved over those 70 years that attract us fans of all ages. It's not the costume design, it's not the fact that the heroes are in their 30's and should be teenagers. No, it's the evolution of the stories from the 40's all the way to today, that's garnered the generation of audiences.

Only time will tell, but I really wish DC would rather put more time in the storytelling rather than simply go the easy way out and erasing the time they've put into developing these marvelous and magnificent characters we all grew up loving.
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The Issue is not Superman being "Un-American" - the Issue is...


Reading forums and even news sites, it's come to my attention that people are not seeing the big picture, and that they seem to be asking the wrong question in regards to this topic.

Why are people attacking Superman?

If there's anyone to blame it should be the writers who turned this non-issue, into a big issue.

I have no problem with Superman "denouncing" his US citizenship.  I'm American and yet I don't label Superman as strictly a US citizen. Like most everyone else I think Superman belongs to the world.

However...

If Superman renounced his citizenship, then this guy should follow.

The issue with this WHOLE issue is simply this:

Why even write about it?

It was a non-issue that turned into this big controversial issue.

It was one of those things that you don't expect to read; something just catches you off guard, and you go "Huh? Where did that come from all of a sudden?"

Superman's citizenship is one of those things that generally people don't even think about openly. It's one of those things we know subconciously; keyword: subconciously. It's not like Superman is out there fighting crime wearing a Captain America outfit proclaiming to everyone that he's American.

No.

He just does his business (mostly in the US ironically, aside from outer space and/or other dimensions), and from time to time in other countries.

Like other fans from other countries have said, Superman's citizenship was never questioned in their minds. They just accepted who he is and is just glad to read about his adventures. Not only that, but they accept him not as a US citizen, but the World's citizen.

So there's no reason to really write about the issue.

It didn't help that Bin Laden's death came after but around the same time frame as this issue, especially when America feels so much more patriotic. Unintentional, but really bad timing.

Simply put it was a non-issue, that turned into an issue.

What would happen if Professor X told the world he was tired of being handicapped?

Just imagine if a story about Professor X was written where he denounces the functionality of his leggs and he tells the reader that he is so sick of not being able to walk with his two feet. Why even write a story about this and basically hurt all your readers who may have handicaps?

If anything, at least just have him denounce Rogaine and tired of being bald.  Ok, just kidding.

But again, the whole thing was a non-issue, so why even write about these non-issues?

This somewhat reminded me of a Batman issue where he proclaimed that he used to pee his pants in his Batman suit during his first few times as Batman.

I mean we all figured (again subconciously) that we can understand that normal human beings would be scared their first time too. But to even write about him peeing his pants? Why even write it?

 

"Batman, I'll tell you everything I swear! Just please... please don't pee on me!"

Let them stay as non-issues.    

These kinds of things are better left not even written about.    

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Wait... did Warner Bros just turn Hal Jordan into Ryan Reynolds?


One of the biggest Green Lantern fans since the early 90's considering I only read him and Superman (feel free to read my posts in the DC Forum), I really was looking forward (and still am) to the upcoming GL film. 

So as I did with my criticism of Superman Returns (this was way before discovering Comicvine - quick summary: Superman Returns = basically a remake of 1978 Superman film version 1.5)... pending a full review down the road, I too am going to humbly do so with my first impression of Green Lantern.  All of this of course is criticism based on love, otherwise I just wouldn't even bothered to care at all.

 
First impression of the GL preview was that this felt like WB's version of "Iron Man". 

 
But after watching the full trailer, aside from the fact it feels as if it could be the movie "The Proposal" but only with superpowers, does anyone else feel like WB's character portrayal of Green Lantern was that, instead of turning the actor Ryan Reynolds into the one-and-only Hal Jordan himself, they basically went the other route, and turned Hal Jordan into Ryan Reynolds instead?
 

Yes, I fortunately had the unfortune of seeing this movie.  It's actually pretty funny though.


  
Sure Ryan Reynolds has this Hollywood stereotype of being a "funny guy", a "comic relief", the Van Wilder type of character.  But instead of having Ryan Reynolds molded into the role of Hal Jordan, it seems like they basically just wrote Green Lantern to be portrayed just like the actor himself. 

I'm seeing Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern, more than I see Hal Jordan as the cosmic ring wielder himself.
 
Imagine if Tim Burton would've gone the same route when they casted comedian Michael Keaton as the new Batman back in 1989...? 
 
Here's hoping that Marvel Studios doesn't take this route when they release Captain America starring another "comic fun guy" in Chris Evans.  Which by the way from the looks of it, seems set on a much more serious tone. 

 
But can you imagine Steve Rogers acting like Johnny Storm?  
 
Of course not!  
 
Which is why it's weird seeing Hal Jordan acting like Van Wilder.
 
Does Ryan Reynolds always have to do comedy?   He's shown he could be serious in movies like "Fireflies in the Garden" and even "Amityville Horror".  He doesn't need to be Van Wilder in Green Lantern. By the way, someone mentioned that Ryan Reynolds felt more like Kyle Rayner with a hint of Guy Gardner; totally agree.

 
I really do not, repeat, DO NOT want this to "feel" like "Iron Man".  I love "Iron Man" don't get me wrong, but I don't want another movie to have a similar theme, feel, and atmosphere from another movie of the same genre.  It's basically like playing "Medal of Honor" when you've already played "Call of Duty".  You just want a different feel, a different experience... like (going by my video game analogy) more of a "Gears of War" feel.   
 
Other than that, I am still going to see this movie, along with every other upcoming comic book themed movie in 2011, and getting the Green-Ray later that year too!


   

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Observation: Edward Norton and his Rewrites in his Roles


I like Edward Norton; he's in two of my Top 10 movies of all time: American History X and Fight Club. But as much of a good actor he is, it seems that his artistical writing that he places on himself seem to be getting in the way of things, most especially when it comes to movie roles.

Before the much publicized rift between Norton and Marvel Studios, there was these others "less publicized" events (at least 4 that has been made public) that a lot of casual comic book movie goers were not aware of before the clash with Marvel Studios:

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American History X - New Line believed director Tom Kaye had delivered a powerful drama. But even before filming was completed, tensions mounted as Kaye and star actor Edward Norton jockeyed for control of the film.

Norton was involved in rewriting portions of the script; his influence was obvious when Kaye shot a crucial scene where the actor rallies his skinhead troops before they ransack a Korean market.

However, veteran studio hands say that having an actor spend nearly two months in the editing room is a situation fraught with peril -- most established directors would never allow it. Although Norton was there with Kaye's knowledge, the director couldn't contain his anger about having to step aside.

Last fall, New Line test-screened Kaye's first cut of the movie, which earned surprisingly good numbers for such a hard-edged drama. But then New Line made an unusual move; it agreed to have Norton edit a cut of the film himself. Kaye contends Norton broached the idea; New Line President Michael De Luca says he approached Norton, although he acknowledges the actor gave him an incentive, threatening not to do press if he could not "stand behind the movie."

Norton has repeatedly refused to discuss his involvement in rewriting or editing the film.
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The Score - Frank Oz, the director of The Score, had already cast Robert De Niro and Marlon Brando.

Like many people he saw Edward Norton as the natural choice for the youngest generation of thief. Norton though had reservations before agreeing to join the cast.

Oz recalls, "Edward's first concern to me was, 'Can I contribute? I don't just want to be an actor because I have ideas.'"

Indeed, although he remains uncredited, Norton is pretty vocal about his "pretty substantive rewrite" of Kario Salem's original script for The Score.
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Frida - According to IESB.net, The WGA is giving all writing credits to Zak Penn for the Incredible Hulk, who wrote the original script. Norton also wrote the screenplay to Frida, but was denied screenwriter credit. This may be due to the fact that Norton rewrote the script before completing the process of being a member in the Writer's Guild of America.

"I got shafted by the Writer’s Guild at the last minute, but I wrote the draft that got made," says Norton. Clearly angry at the Guild, he describes the organization as being 'very arcane and in my opinion, a very corrupt system which I think is heavily biased against people who are not Guild members like me'.
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The Incredible Hulk - Edward Norton is a smart, talented guy. But he really had a bad time with Marvel on “Hulk.” He spent hours and days rewriting Zak Penn‘s script (not the first time he's rewritten a script). At the 2007 Comic Con, Norton bragged about writing the screenplay. But it was Penn who got the credit.

In the end, Norton had such a falling out with Marvel that he skipped the movie’s premiere and went off to some island to lick his wounds. He exited the promotional campaign without a contract to do sequels, although both co-star Liv Tyler and director Louis Letterier each had them.
Seems Edward Norton loves to do rewrites. I don't fault him per se, since that shows dedication to your work. But that has caused him to butt heads with so many directors and producers in the past, even threatening them he won't star or promote the film if he doesn't get creative control, which is going a little too far.     
 
Just an observation.
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Ryan Reynolds rather be Deadpool than Green Lantern...?

Ryan Reynold's intro to Green Lantern and Deadpool:

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A. On Green Lantern:

"I've known about "Green Lantern" my whole life, but I've never really followed it before. I started to fall in love with the character when I met with [director] Martin Campbell. When I sat down with him, I really got what it is that this guy is all about. When you have a guy like Martin Campbell, part of his charm is that he has balls of titanium, and the other part is that he's slightly crazy, and you have to be to take on something with the scope of "Green Lantern." He's less of the director and more of a general. He just really knows strategies, he knows the intricacies, and his attention to detail! It's infectious. I sat down with him, and I could not even believe what he was saying. When I went to the meeting, I was entirely cynical about the film. I thought, 'What the hell, I'll see what they all have to say,' and I left the room with a completely different perspective."

B. On Deadpool:

"I read the Deadpool series back in the ‘90’s. But I’m not a huge comic-book reader, per se. I’ll check out Archie when I’m in the grocery line but that’s about it. I really wanted to play Wade, and I really wanted to play Deadpool, and it would kill me to see someone else play them. I had a kind of ham-fisted attitude that it had to be perfect, but it doesn't. The movie's called "Wolverine," it's not called "Deadpool" or "Wade." I thought it was a nice little wink and tip of the hat to things to come. Finding the tone of that character alone is such a difficult prospect. I've been in so many meetings lately about "Deadpool" and meeting all these writers. Everyone is always looking for that one line, "What is that character?" and for me it's kind of like, "There's a guy, and he's in a highly militarized comedic fame spiral." That's not an easy thing to write -- an entire screenplay, let alone a franchise. I had a blast playing Wade. Every line I had in that was stuff I thought he would say. It wasn't something that a writer said to me. It was fun to really create that character, including everything he spits out of his awful mouth."

Ryan Reynolds when asked "Who would win Green Lantern or Deadpool":

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"I'm going to go on record right now. In a battle of the wits, Green Lantern is a dead man! But in a battle of the body, I'm afraid Deadpool is going to expire."

Ryan Reynolds when asked if "Green Lantern means as much to him as Deadpool":

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"Green Lantern means a lot to me. And admittedly I wasn't as familiar with Green Lantern coming into the project, but as I learned I fell in love with the character. It's such an iconic guy. He's the guy who throws the punch, kisses the girl, and tells a joke. It's like, 'Who wouldn't want to play that?' But Deadpool is something I'm very passionate about and we're still actively working on. Deadpool is not a superhero movie, its a deconstruction of superhero movies so to come off Green Lantern and have the opportunity to do a movie like Deadpool is great in every way possible. The fourth wall is broken many times in the movie and its important that we do so. I can't emphasise enough how closely the tone of the comic is being followed. But its a nasty piece of work and thats whats important."

Ryan Reynolds on how he landed their respective parts:

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A. On how he got the Green Lantern role:

Both Ryan Reynolds and producer Donald De Line admitted that the finalists (including Bradley Cooper and Jared Leto), had to endure two separate screen tests with one important stipulation. “We found out that the studio executives always want to see the guy in the mask,” said De Line, “and Ryan looks really good in the mask.”

“There was a Cinderella element to it,” admitted Reynolds. “We have these things on our industry called a lifecast, and it’s a mold of an actor’s head and you can build a prosthetic around that. You can do anything with that, and obviously, Peter [Sarsgaard] did one for his prosthetics in the film. The effects house that was asked to make the Green Lantern mask had no idea who was auditioning, but they arbitrarily chose my head from the vast catalogue of actors’ heads to build the mask around. When I showed up to the set [for a screen test], my mask fit a little bit better than it did in, the other's auditions."

B. On how he got the Deadpool role:

According to Fox Executive, Jeff Katz, Deadpool's journey to the big screen (and Ryan Reynolds' connection to the character), began around the time when plans were being hashed out for "Blade: Trinity". The film was written and directed by David Goyer, and at the time, Katz was serving in a similar capacity for New Line Cinema and "Blade" as he later served for Fox on "Wolverine."

"All the way back to Ryan, Goyer and I on 'Blade: Trinity' 2003, we were trying to put together a deal at New Line for a 'Deadpool' movie," said Katz. "We thought the rights were clear and not part of the 'X-Men' universe, so Ryan could play the character and Goyer could write."

I can’t remember why -- I think they wanted to do a 'Blade' spin-off instead -- but it didn't come together. But Ryan, to his credit, has remained obsessed with the Deadpool character."
Ryan Reynolds on the future of each film:

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A. Future of Green Lantern:

"Green Lantern a pretty big universe and there's a lot to explore. There's a lot to explore with Hal and without him. You could do a couple more movies with Hal, then you could move on to a movie with Guy Gardner or Kyle Rayner, any of those guys. [But] let's not put the cart before the horse. In success, you do another movie, you do two, and that's fantastic. But the first one has got to land and people have got to see it and really have to have that appetite for a second one."

B. Future of Deadpool:

"Deadpool is in development like other films. It's coming along. There's a great script there. With Deadpool, it’s a lot like going to prison for the first day. You got to walk up and hit the biggest guy you see to establish a bit of cred. With Deadpool, early on you have to establish that moral flexibility. There’s a gamble to it — you’re going to lose a few people right at the beginning but you take the gamble and know that eventually you’re going to win them back. You won’t lose the hard-core fans of the character, they already know who he is. We have to play to a broader audience than that. As an actor you have to be willing to do something like … back in Vancouver we used to call it a [nasty] burger. ’You gotta eat the [nasty] burger to get to the cookies.’ And yes, I want to write a cookbook about that. Deadpool goes in such a different direction than a superhero movie usually goes. It’s a nasty piece of work. It’s just based in so much emotional filth, completely. It’s like ‘Barfly‘ if it were a superhero movie. It sort of treads into the world of an emotionally damaged person. I always say that Deadpool is a guy in a highly militarized shame spiral. It's so different than the superhero movies to date, it departs so far from that. The comics are very inconsistent in the writing. All the different writers, different voices, but at the core of the character his heart is really interesting. He’s the funniest guy you’ll ever meet, too, and for me that’s exciting but it’s not as hard as capturing that moral flexibility, which is so important. He hasn’t really experienced the full spectrum of human emotion the way most people do.”
   

RBTL Recap Edition:
(aka Reading Between The Lines)

Intro to both characters:

He "knew of” Green Lantern, but didn’t follow "to know” Green Lantern; said he was even “cynical” about the film in the beginning, and even talked more about the Director than Green Lantern. However, he’s known and read about Deadpool since the 90’s and that it would "kill him" to see someone else play Deadpool.

How he got the roles:

Ryan seemed obsessed with playing Deadpool, all the way back since 2003 at least. However, RBTL (as well as his “cynical” view earlier), you could probably speculate that it seemed more like WB executives approaching Ryan for the Green Lantern role thanks in part because the effects department build the Green Lantern model based off Ryan's head before he was even casted.

Future of the films:

Seems Ryan is very eager to get the Deadpool film started. On Green Lantern however, he hinted that the movie sequels could possibly "move on" to another direction using other Green Lantern characters.

Who means more:

In a nutshell... I fell in love with Green Lantern, while I’ve always been passionate of Deadpool.

Green Lantern vs Deadpool:

"Green Lantern is a dead man. While I’m afraid, Deadpool will expire."     

 

 

****QUESTIONS****
 
Green Lantern fans:

Does this worry you about his committment to the future of this franchise?

Deadpool fans:
Does this give you hope that a movie will eventually be made despite his GL committments?

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