JonSmith

Cut him some slack, Petey. Dude's got a point: If he hated Man of Steel, and he hated Batman v. Superman, there's no reason for him to suspect Justice League will be any different, and just assume he'll hate it too. That's perfectly reasonable. Granted, I can get why his comments are sticking in your craw, given you're such an apologist for those movies, and his phrasing leaves something to be desired since he's stating his opinion, but still.

On topic: While it's great they're not giving it a stupid title like Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, I'm finding it difficult to get hyped about it. I always anticipated a Justice League movie I could triumphantly set this to, but not only would I feel uncomfortable doing that, the DCEU seems to actively be distancing itself as far from that as possible.

Alcohol?

Fox really should have taken the opportunity given to them with Days of Future Past to wipe the slate clean and start up a true X-Men Cinematic Universe: Have McAvoy/Fassbender and the original X-Men in the in 80's-90's, with the new cast, have a few movies building up Apocalypse as he gathers his Horsemen from the beaten villains of those movies, once Apocalypse has been taken care of, have a timeskip into the present day with a bunch of recasts for the adult versions of those characters, start up Uncanny X-Men, X-Force, New Mutants, etc. Oh, also ditch Singer and Jennifer Lawrence.

You... You... M'kay, no. Have a seat, man. We need to have a talk. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, I'm going to assume you're not trolling.

M'kay. Now. Let me tell you why that's bulls***.

First things first: Your presented scenario of Hulk busting through the space time barrier. This is what we call an 'outlier'. It happened, but it's not representative of a character's normal capabilities, nor is it generally taken into account when calculating said character's power levels. Hulk's gotten a lot angrier for a lot better reasons than he is in that scan, and hasn't remotely approached the level of strength necessary to tear through the fabric of space time outside of that moment. That, combined with the age of the scan, and the general weight class Hulk hangs in, means that feat is thrown out as inconsequential in regards to Hulk's abilities: It happened, once, a long time ago, when writer's had even less of an understanding of these things than they do now. Hulk cannot actually do that, it's way outside his weight-class to accomplish that with brute strength. If he'd regularly shown the ability to approach that level of strength, and continued to do so through to the present day, then it'd be fine. But he hasn't, so it's not.

Now, second, in regards to your misunderstanding Flash's omnipresence: While Flash's speed tends to vary, he's rarely shown as being omnipresent, with the only Flash shown consistently at that speed being Kingdom Come Flash. Nonetheless, his consistent top speed feats put him near if not directly at that realm, so your misunderstanding bears further addressing. You refer to Flash being 'everywhere at once', and thus all Hulk has to do is throw a punch, and since Flash is everywhere at once, he'd hit him regardless of speed. What you're missing is the other half of omnipresence: Yes, he's everywhere at once, but that also means he's nowhere. What omnipresence in Flash's case refers to is him moving so fast, he appears to be in many places at once. What is actually happening from Flash's point of view is that he's moving between these locations repeatedly, so many times and so quickly from an observer's view, he doesn't seem to have left these locations at all. Flash, however, still has total control of his movement in this scenario: He's actively moving between these points, so he can also choose NOT to, meaning he won't be in that location.

Essentially, omnipresence means a character can be everywhere and nowhere at once: They are everywhere they need to be, and nowhere they don't.

What that means is, if your point is that Flash is omnipresent, then it means Hulk can't hit him at ALL. Flash could be wailing on him millions of times a second from every possible angle, but the moment Hulk throws a punch at him, he'll be hitting thin air WHILE the onslaught continues to him from every other angle. It's the highest possible form of the speed blitz.

Hell no. After Jennifer Lawrence's performance, I am sick of her Mystique and Mystique in general. There was a time interesting stories could be told with her, with a more competent actress, and the character of the old movies. If they'd kept her character from the old movies, or at least continued developing her towards that after First Class, giving her reasons to become even more bitter and spiteful towards humans, with a performance to reflect that? Sure, by now I might be up for a Mystique movie. But with what J. Law has done to the character? F*** that.

Would it be racist to call fake Wally Black Wally?

I don't think I've ever clicked 'NO' on a poll so quickly before.

Yeah, but surely there's an element of pain to that: You get hit by a searing blast of plasma, naturally you recoil away from it, stunned, the additional force knocks you off your feet. But if Daenarys' is completely immune to the fire, would the physical impact really hurt that much? Enough to do damage? It almost certainly wouldn't effect her dragons, which apparently she has here. Which on it's own, swings the odds back towards Daenarys. If she's also basically immune to lasers? Pretty sure that makes this a stomp.

As someone who abhorred Batman v. Superman, it kind of boggles me that some people were happy with it. Don't get me wrong, if you were just going to see Batman and Superman mindlessly throw down, I guess you got exactly what you wanted. But for anyone else, how do you deal with the waste in that movie? Superman never got enough time to breathe/grow, so his death felt meaningless, all the more so because they literally couldn't leave him dead for five minutes. That's an entire storyline, the Death of Superman, what should be an emotional and tragic fall of a hero, wasted. Will almost definitely never be done again on the big screen. It's just gone.

The moment the Trinity first meet, what should be a big triumphant swell on par with that Avengers pan-around, wasted. Batman's a hypocritical murderer (though awesome and by far the best part of the movie), Superman's a dour mope beaten down by the burden of his powers, whom we barely have reason to care about beyond, 'He's Superman!', and Wonder Woman we don't know at all beyond, 'It's Wonder Woman!', all as the result of the machinations of a poor man's Joker. Everyone will remember that pan-around as the Avengers meet for the first time in battle. How many will remember when Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman first met on the big screen? How many will want to? What should be a moment on that level, wasted.

Or how about the very concept the movie's built around, Batman v. Superman? This should be a fight with at LEAST the emotional resonance of Civil War's climactic battle. The heroes should both have an excellent reason to fight (which, to be fair, Batman did). If/when they go for blood, you should be hoping, praying, they'll stop. At the end of Civil War, when Cap bashes open Tony's helmet, and raises that shield, I have to imagine many people were just as tense as I was. Whereas when Bats raised that Spear of Destiny, Superman beneath his boot, I didn't care at all. I can't imagine the people who liked the movie felt a tenth the tension that Civil War scene roused. And again, all as a result of a poor man's Joker. One of the best things about Civil War is that Zemo, great as he was (though he didn't need to be Zemo), was that he was largely unnecessary: The movie could have easily proceeded without him manipulating the conflict, still with the same beats and conflicts, and it would have felt just as earned. Whereas the Batman v. Superman fight isn't. Nothing in it is, it's just thrown on screen.

I mean, I kind of get how people could like it: Low expectations, not caring/knowing about the characters involved, just going in to see Batman and Superman have a nice fight, you get what you paid for. Fine. But does it not bother you that you could have had more? That it could have been, SHOULD have been, so much better? Are you really happy with what you got, when you could have gotten so much more? To put it another way: You got a Mcdonald's double cheeseburger, but for the same price, you could have had a Five Guys/Outback burger. Are you really fine with that?

Actually, I wonder about that: Would Daenarys' resistance to heat/fire make her basically immune to laser fire?