Mutant Hatred...isn't it time to move past it?

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Posted by PrinceIMC - January 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM

It is time. And they're kinda doing that in X-Men. They're kinda the heroes of San Fransisco now which kinda makes me hope they won't ever move back to New York.

Edited by Shadowdoggy - January 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM

it's be nice to think the world would come to accept mutants
but let's face it
we still have yet to fully accept black people, middle easterns, gays, little people, asians, and pretty much everything other than white, straight Republicans, and slutty, non-white reality tv stars
so.......no, I don't think it's practical or believable to have the world accept mutants yet

Posted by Vitality - January 28, 2011 at 12:20 PM

@Shadowdoggy said:

"it's be nice to think the world would come to accept mutants but let's face it we still have yet to fully accept black people, middle easterns, gays, little people, asians, and pretty muc everything other than white, straight Republicans, and non-white reality tv stars so.......no, I don't think it's practical or believable to have the world accept mutants yet "

Spot on, spot on.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous - January 28, 2011 at 12:31 PM

you beat me to it, I was gona right a blog post about this. You are totally right it dose not make any sense any more, sure there is some mutants to be afraid of but its just the same with the non-mutant metahumans and for all the public know some of there most beloved superhero's could be mutants.

Posted by IllyanaRasputin - January 28, 2011 at 12:31 PM

@Shadowdoggy said:

" it's be nice to think the world would come to accept mutants but let's face it we still have yet to fully accept black people, middle easterns, gays, little people, asians, and pretty much everything other than white, straight Republicans, and slutty, non-white reality tv stars so.......no, I don't think it's practical or believable to have the world accept mutants yet "

Posted by Shadowdoggy - January 28, 2011 at 12:34 PM

it'd almost be more believable if (like other minority groups) the mutants were more vocal and proactive about their want for mutant rights instead of just hiding in the shadows and running off to islands and special schools and the like
but then again....the actions of anti-mutant zealots seem to be a constant fever pitch even without the mutants stepping up their efforts

Posted by ComicMan24 - January 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM

@Shadowdoggy said:

" it's be nice to think the world would come to accept mutants but let's face it we still have yet to fully accept black people, middle easterns, gays, little people, asians, and pretty much everything other than white, straight Republicans, and slutty, non-white reality tv stars so.......no, I don't think it's practical or believable to have the world accept mutants yet "

Even though I totally agree with this, I also agree that it would make more sense for the humans to be afraid not only of mutants but of the rest of the Marvel metahuman community too.

Edited by Shadowdoggy - January 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM

@ComicMan24:
that's a good point
but then again......people are usually more afraid of a specific subset of people than they are of that person's specific characteristics that make them different
what I mean is, I don't know if it's the powers that scare them so much or the idea of them being "mutants"

Posted by InnerVenom123 - January 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Ugh, those filthy muties disgust me. :p

Posted by ComicMan24 - January 28, 2011 at 12:43 PM

@Shadowdoggy: Good question.

Posted by IrishX - January 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM

@Shadowdoggy said:

"it's be nice to think the world would come to accept mutants but let's face it we still have yet to fully accept black people, middle easterns, gays, little people, asians, and pretty much everything other than white, straight Republicans, and slutty, non-white reality tv stars so.......no, I don't think it's practical or believable to have the world accept mutants yet "

Maybe we should start by not grouping all "white" people or all "black" people into one category. I have Irish, English, French, Dutch, and Native American blood in me yet I'm..... white? When the labels that you just used stop we can begin accepting everyone for who they are. I do agree with the point you were making though.

Edited by Shadowdoggy - January 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM

@IrishX:
we are whoever and whatever we are
which is usually in contradiction to the way people see us, classify us, label us and pre-judge us
I'm a gay dude who grew up in a small town and trust me: who I was, what I was, what I thought and how I felt had nothing to do with how I was treated
I was just using labels that are commonly associated with the strong opposition of the feeble-minded masses

Posted by JonesDeini - January 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

@Shadowdoggy:
You (and everybody else) have brought up some good points, loving the discussion going on in here.

I agree that people are more afraid of the idea of "Mutant" in marvel. I think they would've accepted the X-Men had they never known they are mutants. I agree with what Lobe said in a recent Uncanny Issue "nobody fears mutants, but everybody fears NOT being a mutant" and I agree. If everybody could get a shot to give them super powers nobody would fear mutants. Though I agree people will always find a way to divide and hate. In a world where people have super powers universally then maybe reality warpers or telepaths would be persecuted.

Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon - January 28, 2011 at 5:58 PM

@JonesDeini: the xmen are kinda racists themselves. they dont assimilate, they just make their own team with practically no non-mutant members (i know there is danger and a couple others, but im saying for the most part). also, when the avengers decide to stick around and fight for justice in dark reign, the x-men go on their own island and sit it out. in fact, the new mutants were partying in vegas during siege and they knew it was happening.
also if they want to show that they are the protectors of good having folks like magneto on their team sends a bad message.

Posted by Theodore - January 28, 2011 at 6:03 PM

NEVER KILL ALL HOMO SUPERIOR!

Posted by JonesDeini - January 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM

@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @JonesDeini: the xmen are kinda racists themselves. they dont assimilate, they just make their own team with practically no non-mutant members (i know there is danger and a couple others, but im saying for the most part). also, when the avengers decide to stick around and fight for justice in dark reign, the x-men go on their own island and sit it out. in fact, the new mutants were partying in vegas during siege and they knew it was happening. also if they want to show that they are the protectors of good having folks like magneto on their team sends a bad message. "

I understand their position though, they are constantly hounded by a world that on the whole rejects/hates/assaults them. In that kind of situation I get looking after and protecting your own. They've sacrificed so much to protect a world that, generally speaking, wouldn't piss on them to put out their flaming corpses, why keep doing it? If I was Scott I too would've sat out of Civil War, I would've moved to Utopia and created a safe haven for my people. If not me then who? What's my other option? Join a team where I may have to hide who/what I truly am for fear of rejection? As a parent send my kids to a school where they'll be persecuted/physically in danger for who they are? Is that a better alternative than the Xavier Institute?

Also you have to understand the X-Men's position during Dark Reign. Running a foul of Osborn wasn't a wise move in a post M-Day, Post Necrosha, Villains running the show world. Norman had Carte Blanche to do as he damn well pleased to well respected and known heroes. Imagine what he could've done to mutants had he chosen to flex his muscle and make them a target. But when Push came to shove they took their stand against Osborn's Dark X-Men.

As far as Magneto being around, it's a pragmatic decision, and I don't buy that crap anyways, look how many former/current villains have been Avengers at some point. They're have been worse PR moves, folk.

Posted by riri4life - January 28, 2011 at 6:19 PM

We can't even get past sexism, racism, and homophobia in the real world...no way mutants would get a free pass.

Edited by JonesDeini - January 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM

@riri4life said:

" We can't even get past sexism, racism, and homophobia in the real world...no way mutants would get a free pass. "

True, but this ISN'T the real world, superhero comics are worlds of escapism so why not have acceptance of mutants? Anyways, my point wasn't so much about hatred of mutants per se but how that hatred doesn't logically extend to all metahuman/super powered being in Marvel's world. That's what always struck me as odd. I like how this was handled in "The Marvels". While heroes were cheered, it was only after a long history of being feared/mistrusted and as soon as one messed up they were once again hated/feared/persecuted by the everyman, average joe. Mutants were still hated, but even Iron Man and co were viewed with contempt

Edited by Snail - January 28, 2011 at 6:23 PM

@Shadowdoggy said:

" it's be nice to think the world would come to accept mutants but let's face it we still have yet to fully accept black people, middle easterns, gays, little people, asians, and pretty much everything other than white, straight Republicans, and slutty, non-white reality tv stars so.......no, I don't think it's practical or believable to have the world accept mutants yet "

A minority as small as mutants would not suffer the same type of discrimination. When it's just a handfull of people I don't think general hatred would rise like that, especially in an universe where super powers and iron suits are so whimsically accepted.

Posted by JonesDeini - January 28, 2011 at 6:26 PM

@Snail:
Indeed

Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon - January 28, 2011 at 6:28 PM

@JonesDeini: the x-men didnt fair very well as their own. since that has happened they have had far more student casualties than the initiative.
sitting out of everything and establishing their own nation was wrong. they cant get mutant rights if they just leave. that is not building anything. they didnt care enough during siege to help. that was sick and twisted.
and what was the last thing they did in a major event? they triggered house of m. the avengers tried to stop them. morons.
the only x-men with half a brain was bishop, and he recently flipped out and went the villain route.

Posted by riri4life - January 28, 2011 at 6:28 PM

@JonesDeini:
Good point...that doesn't make sense....hmmm lol
I agree mutants should be accepted, but having that analogy of being an outcast is what attracted me to the x-men to begin with. It's how a lot of fans relate, plus comics tend to incorporate real world issues....but I would have no prob w/ mutant tolerance in a alternate/future reality series...but imo there should still be that tension in at least 616.

Posted by JonesDeini - January 28, 2011 at 6:46 PM

@riri4life:
True, that's what attracts most of us to reading X-Men, everybody knows what it's like to be different. I could always relate to them as a young black man living in a predominantly white, racist, small, mid-western town.
@Violet-Eyed Dragon:
LOL trueche, my man, truesay. They DID lose A LOT of students post M-Day. But not solely due to them being bad leaders/guardians imo. d

As far as Siege goes, that whole event had problems up and down. But to your point, many heroes REALLY took a significant stand against Osborn during Dark Reign and further more showed up in Oklahoma to fight him publicly? I'm pretty sure I saw the Fantastic Four watching Norman get unmasked just like everybody else. And as an X-Men reader I'm glad they weren't involved too heavily in Dark Reign/Siege. Tying into those events bogged down A LOT of enjoyable titles. X-Men books have always had the bad luck of arcs being interrupted by company wide events that must for some reason always include the X-Men (no matter how pointless their inclusion would be). So I for one am glad they chose to watch the situation and react when it was brought to them.

And how did they cause M-Day, Because I'm pretty sure Wanda's breakdown as a result of her loss children caused M-Day, folk.

Edited by Hi I'm New - January 28, 2011 at 6:49 PM

I understand why humanity hates mutants. It's not like they are just some other race of people or minority group, they are the species that is going to undoubtedly take the place of humans. Humans in MU are literally watching themselves become extinct and the only way they can strike back is to wipe out their replacements. I'm not saying I as an outside viewer agree but I can't help but feel that if I were a human in the MU I would hate mutants just as much as the next guy. The most potent forms of hatred are born of fear. Also while to us it has been like 50 years that the earth has been acquainted with the mutant kind, in Marvel time it has been like 10 or 15 years. It will be a long time before the human race as a whole or even the majority of it will be able to accept that they are a dying breed.

Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon - January 28, 2011 at 7:01 PM

@JonesDeini said:

" @riri4life:
True, that's what attracts most of us to reading X-Men, everybody knows what it's like to be different. I could always relate to them as a young black man living in a predominantly white, racist, small, mid-western town.
@Violet-Eyed Dragon: LOL trueche, my man, truesay. They DID lose A LOT of students post M-Day. But not solely due to them being bad leaders/guardians imo. d As far as Siege goes, that whole event had problems up and down. But to your point, many heroes REALLY took a significant stand against Osborn during Dark Reign and further more showed up in Oklahoma to fight him publicly? I'm pretty sure I saw the Fantastic Four watching Norman get unmasked just like everybody else. And as an X-Men reader I'm glad they weren't involved too heavily in Dark Reign/Siege. Tying into those events bogged down A LOT of enjoyable titles. X-Men books have always had the bad luck of arcs being interrupted by company wide events that must for some reason always include the X-Men (no matter how pointless their inclusion would be). So I for one am glad they chose to watch the situation and react when it was brought to them. And how did they cause M-Day, Because I'm pretty sure Wanda's breakdown as a result of her loss children caused M-Day, folk. "

they told the avengers they were gonna kill her and theyd fight them if they tried to stop. they meant it like a what if, but quicksilver heard it and convinced wanda to make house of m.
i just dont get how the x-men can really want to create harmony between man and mutant when they dont get involved in siege or dark reign or anything else. notice how most of the x-men arcs lately are about defending mutants and all. they arent really helping people that much anymore.
i get theres justification. but i think if i were an ordinary person in the marvel universe, id have a pretty good reason to hate mutants.

Posted by JonesDeini - January 28, 2011 at 8:37 PM

@Violet-Eyed Dragon:
Dig but blaming the mutants for forming Nation X or Utopia is like blaming the Jewish people for forming the nation of Israel after the holocaust if you follow me. And they've tried building that bridge from day one. They have and continue to take on threats to the people of earth both of mutant and non mutant origin just as much as any other group in the Marvel U. So to me, so what if they sat the last two big marvel events out? To me that was good cuz it gave X-Men titles time to develop they're own stories. They've saved San Francisco on a regular basis since Manifest Destiny and continued to protect the city throughout Dark Reign. They even protected the people of San Francisco during Second Coming. Also if they had opposed Osborn prior to Siege it would put the already dwindling mutant population at risk and risk combat spilling out onto San Francisco, endangering civilians. Worse yet with Norman's manipulation of the media and firm public support behind him at the time it would've made mutant kind seem like the threat everybody generally perceives them as. Also let' say that a battle the level of Siege had taken place on Utopia (Over kill isn't in Osborn's vocabulary) and some part of the island had been damaged and affected Atlantis, possibly taking lives. That would've had the potential to cause a full on battle between land and sea, man. And the mutant kind always has representatives in the field to represent them to the public. Wolverine is an oft active avenger who was present at Broxton and a known mutant/X-men in the public eye. And Scott maintains open communication with Tony/Reed/Cap/Etc. this has been shown time and time again in the past 2/3 years of X-men books. At the end of the day you may not like all the actions that Scott/the X-men have taken, but can you deny the necessity of them?

As far as being afraid of mutants goes, I'd be just no more afraid of Magneto than I'd be afraid of Tony Stark. Shit, I'd be more afraid of Tony Stark since I know that at least somebody's watching and fighting Magneto. Yeah, I'd be a paranoid Max Lord type lol

Posted by Iron_Lad - January 28, 2011 at 8:50 PM

I think its hate that stems from jealousy, not fear of mutants, but the fact that mutants are born with their gifts and that they call themselves "Homo Superior". I think the majority of people would object to that idea. "Mutants aren't superior to Homo Sapiens, they're just freaks of nature!" From the point-of-view of the normal human being, I could totally relate to that.

Posted by Hazlenaut - January 28, 2011 at 9:05 PM

It should be future where hatred of the mutants is more subtle. Just like racisim it takes great effort and sacrifice but even than sadly it still can be found. After Mutant stop the hatred later becomes the fight of being exploited. Dave Chapel pointed it out it most likely be the same with mutants.

Posted by JonesDeini - January 28, 2011 at 9:07 PM

@Hazlenaut:
I can see that.

Posted by SC - January 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Move past? Maybe, i think it needs to adapt and evolve to stay as poignant as ever, and as relatable to the times as ever, and as others have mentioned, maybe this means more subtlety in some era's, maybe it means speaking louder than ever before in others. Depends on the writer and how good they are, and what he can use as material to write on.

Write now, X-Books, lacks diversity for me, relatively more so than any other time I can think of, barring the original team. Writers and editors expressing at one point a few years back, that Xavier and Magneto need to step down, for Scott to step up, and encompass both of their goals, but eh, you don't need characters to step down, for others to step up, and Xavier and Magneto are damn good characters with an important dynamic quality about them, which speaks directly about mutant hatred, which speaks directly about racism, homophobia, sexism, and etc, and thats, Am I, being to aggressive, or am I being too passive in my approach? Are we, being to aggressive, or are we being too passive in our approach. Am I, or we doing enough, flip side are we hurting our own cause?

They replace that with one revered leader who everyone listens to all of a sudden, to go live on an island as one big minority? I don't like Forge and Banshee are dead as well, more to do with their age than the spice and diversity they bring by being of a smaller represented nationality, ethnicity. Of course there are two layer's here, the stories available because of approaching the top to how ordinary 616 humans of Earth approach mutants, and what writers write and readers expect. I'd like to think that the humans written in Marvel Universe are dumbed down to make the plight of our heroes that much more admirable, and I do think that, people in real life are accepting of people with different names, and genders, and preferred hand use, and so on, its a small step for more of everyone, to be the same way with skin color, sexual preference, but then again....

Posted by ThanosIsMad - January 29, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Personally, I think the fear comes from the danger of it all. In regards to normal metahumans like Spider-Man, it usually takes a relatively controlled incident in order to transform them. On the otherhand, for mutants, it's random. The guy who's helping you fix your car could suddenly spurt mutant powers which are wildly out of control and pretty much kill you and everyone around you in a matter of seconds. Now if you take someone like Ms. Marvel, the acquisition of her powers was a bit more deliberate than the average mutant, and thus she had more control over them from the get go. Now, of course this isn't the norm if you take in consideration characters like Electro or whatnot, but then you have to realize that the likelihood of some freak accident giving someone electric powers are slim in comparison to the likelihood of the people around you possessing a gene that could give them an unknown ability that may or may not instantly kill or maim the public.

That's where the fear comes from. And then the fact that the population had a massive spurt also fed into this fear.

Posted by Shadowdoggy - January 29, 2011 at 7:11 AM

@Snail:
that's a very good point
I hadnt' thought about it like that

Posted by VIZION2011 - January 29, 2011 at 7:38 AM

Well technically the world still haven't moved past racism or homophobia, so it does make since for the Marvel U to still have an undertone of mutant hatred.

Posted by SC - January 29, 2011 at 8:05 AM

Also probably worth mentioning again that peoples prejudices towards such broad and large groups of people, that include, ethnicity and gender, often are underscored by a large lack of logic. Racist, sexist, bigoted people will use every excuse in the book to justify their hate, and justify their lack of hate when it suits them. They see someone of a color they do not like, commit a murder, and that person is a typical sum of the earth, crook and criminal, who comes from a family of crooks who are a drain on society. They see someone the same color as them, the color they like, commit a murder, and it was 'self defense', a one in a one thousand incident, does not reflect the larger community.

Sometimes people aren't 'hard' racists or sexists either, they are just bigoted in their nature, since I know some racists that distinguish race by class, and make exceptions for people of different skin color, that act like the skin color they think is superior. Similarly they are racist towards traits. If a person whose ethnicity they dismiss is actually an athlete on a team they like, and etc, is I am sure that characters in Marvel, can have similar fears and ways to justify hatred opposing support.

Posted by ForbushBug - January 29, 2011 at 8:41 AM

You pretty much nailed the logic errors I have with the whole anti-mutant feeling. Regular supes are fine but not mutants. And actually mutants are fine if they hang with regular supes. The most obvious case is the Beast. When he was more human looking in the early days of X-Men and X-Factor, he was one of the dreaded muties. But the more inhuman blue furry Beast in the Avengers had no such problems. And really, in the real world, any group that isolates itself and secretly trains children to become paramilitary soldiers is gonna inspire some uneasy feelings that just can't be written off as prejudice.

Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon - January 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM

@JonesDeini said:

" @Violet-Eyed Dragon: Dig but blaming the mutants for forming Nation X or Utopia is like blaming the Jewish people for forming the nation of Israel after the holocaust if you follow me. And they've tried building that bridge from day one. They have and continue to take on threats to the people of earth both of mutant and non mutant origin just as much as any other group in the Marvel U. So to me, so what if they sat the last two big marvel events out? To me that was good cuz it gave X-Men titles time to develop they're own stories. They've saved San Francisco on a regular basis since Manifest Destiny and continued to protect the city throughout Dark Reign. They even protected the people of San Francisco during Second Coming. Also if they had opposed Osborn prior to Siege it would put the already dwindling mutant population at risk and risk combat spilling out onto San Francisco, endangering civilians. Worse yet with Norman's manipulation of the media and firm public support behind him at the time it would've made mutant kind seem like the threat everybody generally perceives them as. Also let' say that a battle the level of Siege had taken place on Utopia (Over kill isn't in Osborn's vocabulary) and some part of the island had been damaged and affected Atlantis, possibly taking lives. That would've had the potential to cause a full on battle between land and sea, man. And the mutant kind always has representatives in the field to represent them to the public. Wolverine is an oft active avenger who was present at Broxton and a known mutant/X-men in the public eye. And Scott maintains open communication with Tony/Reed/Cap/Etc. this has been shown time and time again in the past 2/3 years of X-men books. At the end of the day you may not like all the actions that Scott/the X-men have taken, but can you deny the necessity of them? As far as being afraid of mutants goes, I'd be just no more afraid of Magneto than I'd be afraid of Tony Stark. Shit, I'd be more afraid of Tony Stark since I know that at least somebody's watching and fighting Magneto. Yeah, I'd be a paranoid Max Lord type lol "

yeah i get some of that. but once siege had started, it wouldnt be that hard for the xmen to go in. i mean, at that time they had like eight teleporters. couldn't they have at least teleported the asgardian kids out once the fighting began?
israel lets non-jews to their country. in fact, a large portion is muslim. omega sentinel, danger, namor, and hepzibah were practically the only non-mutants in utopia.
furthermore, with their amount of telepaths i feel the x-men might have been able to help sentry psychologically.
also, they didnt get involved in doomwar even though namor probably would have wanted it since attuma has gone and allied with doom.
yes theyve saved sanfran, but mostly either because a mutant was in danger or because sanfran was attacked by their enemies. its not that they never do real heroic things, its just a lot less often now.
there are very few mutants out there doing the kind of heroic actions we constantly see from the avengers.

Posted by Renascence - January 31, 2011 at 9:06 AM

In Heroic Age: X-Men, Steve Rogers says,

"Suffice to say, mutants frighten most normal humans. The terror, I think, stems from the idea that mutants are "the other", but they come from within, hidden among the ranks of our children. When the mutant birth rate was in the millions, it seemed as though mutants might replace humans. This has led to prejudice, violence, and in-fighting that has affected mutants ever since. Worse yet, opportunities have tried to spin these tragedies for their benefit, making mutants into puppet soldiers, slaves, or simply scapegoats."

Most of that you probably knew, but I thought it was worded well.

Posted by grimm - February 01, 2011 at 8:41 PM

I don't think it has anything to do with their powers. Yes they fear the mutants powers but it's mainly because these people don't see the X-Men as humans. The Avengers are humans who happen to have powers or some sort of item. Mutants on the other hand are an entirely new species that, in the days with thousands of mutants alive, regular humans deemed as a threat. They thought that the mutants were going to kill all the humans to become the dominant species. So it has nothing to do with their powers but everything to do with the fact that they aren't really human.

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Posted by JonesDeini - February 01, 2011 at 8:52 PM

@grimm said:

" I don't think it has anything to do with their powers. Yes they fear the mutants powers but it's mainly because these people don't see the X-Men as humans. The Avengers are humans who happen to have powers or some sort of item. Mutants on the other hand are an entirely new species that, in the days with thousands of mutants alive, regular humans deemed as a threat. They thought that the mutants were going to kill all the humans to become the dominant species. So it has nothing to do with their powers but everything to do with the fact that they aren't really human. "

Classic conflict theory. I can definitely see this angle. I suppose that's why every fantasy world's public has a deep fear or hatred of Super Human's period. I like how Ellis displayed this in "NewUniversal" (really wish he'd finish that, damn that computer crash).

Posted by batmanary - February 01, 2011 at 8:59 PM

@Shadowdoggy said:

" it's be nice to think the world would come to accept mutants but let's face it we still have yet to fully accept black people, middle easterns, gays, little people, asians, and pretty much everything other than white, straight Republicans, and slutty, non-white reality tv stars so.......no, I don't think it's practical or believable to have the world accept mutants yet "

Yes, but the point is Why are they scared of mutants, when they're not scared of regular Metas.

Posted by Theworldbreaker - February 01, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Little kid: mommy look its spiderman! spiderman can i shake your hand!?, wait who's that? (looks at wolverine) OMG ITS A MUTANT!!
Spiderman: hey kid what do you think i am?
Wolverine: I'm gonna shave that little punk's hair (angerly grins)
Little kid: "runs away screaming mutants are bad"

alot of hte marvel public are hypcriticly rascist :P.

Posted by JonesDeini - February 01, 2011 at 9:15 PM

@Theworldbreaker said:

" Little kid: mommy look its spiderman! spiderman can i shake your hand!?, wait who's that? (looks at wolverine) OMG ITS A MUTANT!! Spiderman: hey kid what do you think i am? Wolverine: I'm gonna shave that little punk's hair (angerly grins) Little kid: "runs away screaming mutants are bad" alot of hte marvel public are hypcriticly rascist :P. "

ROFLMAO!!! Yeah, that's pretty much how it works.

Posted by Theworldbreaker - February 01, 2011 at 9:21 PM

@JonesDeini:
Yup, but Dont get me started on the Hulks :D.

Posted by lord_oraculous016 - February 02, 2011 at 5:42 AM

@JonesDeini said:

And how did they cause M-Day, Because I'm pretty sure Wanda's breakdown as a result of her loss children caused M-Day, folk. "

Wanda said those three little words and caused M-Day not just because of her children.. she uttered those words because she felt that being a mutant is what caused her so much pain in her life.. there was no family there to support her for her father chose his "race" over his own children.. that he ruined them even before they had a chance.. not to mention the pain and suffering mutants all over the experience though racism, oppression and massacre.. she thought that if there were no more mutants, there would be no more pain and suffering.. it was both hate and compassion which lead her to utter those words and in turn disseminated an entire race and condemned all life in the dust bag of Darwin's concept of evolution..

imo, it is not possessing power which lead normal humans to fear and hate mutants.. unlike DC's portrayal of the same characters (metahumans), Marvel chose to discuss such matter in a more realistic approach.. humans fear and hate them because they are genetic filths, abominations which tarnish the purity of the human race..

Posted by Edamame - February 02, 2011 at 12:53 PM

@lord_oraculous016 said:

humans fear and hate them because they are genetic filths, abominations which tarnish the purity of the human race.. "

How exactly do mutants tarnish the purity of the human race? There is almost no miscegenation between the two "races". In my opinion, the humans realize that just one mutant can eradicate every single human on planet Earth. So they are struggling to maintain security for themselves. They want to survive.

Posted by Doctor!!!!! - February 02, 2011 at 12:55 PM

They HAVE SUPERPOWERS.......DON'T PISS THEM OFF!

Posted by Primmaster64 - February 02, 2011 at 12:55 PM

@JonesDeini: HOW DO PEOPLE IN MARVEL TREAT ALIENS? WORSE RIGHT?

Posted by Edamame - February 02, 2011 at 12:57 PM

@Primmaster64 said:

" @JonesDeini: HOW DO PEOPLE IN MARVEL TREAT ALIENS? WORSE RIGHT? "

Marvel writers or Marvel characters?

Posted by Primmaster64 - February 02, 2011 at 12:59 PM

@Edamame: I MEANT IF PEOPLE HATE ALIENS TOO.

Posted by Edamame - February 02, 2011 at 1:02 PM

@Primmaster64 said:

" @Edamame: I MEANT IF PEOPLE HATE ALIENS TOO. "

That is a good question. I don't think that humans have really encountered aliens in the X-MenMarvel Universe. They certainly have encountered PINGAS though.

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Mutant Hatred...isn't it time to move past it?

By JonesDeini January 28, 2011 65 Comments