Joe_Amazing

I don't see how anyone could like the artwork in this book. It looks amateurish and unprofessional. But, I guess it's what DC is left with, since they've manged to drive away all of the good artists and writers, thanks to their ridiculous editorial meddling and toxic work environment.

@safefruitcake: She's not a child. She's naive. There's a difference.

<Sigh> I guess it was inevitable that the New 52 would invade DC animation. They want to jam this further down our throats until we have no choice but to accept it.

@DeadPan: @DeadPan said:

Gonna get ripped apart but here we go:

For all of Snyders talk of this being a Joker story up there with Killing Joke nothing actually happened in the arc. Yes we see that Batman came close to killing him, but this has been explored before and not as heavy handed as this. Story went no-where in the end. Nothing has really changed. I personally feel that Synder should step off the book to give someone else a chance. He has great ideas but is not a good enough writer to pull it off.

It really does say a lot about DC at the moment, and none of it good, if even in the biggest, most-hyped storylines that they're running, nothing significant or dramatic can actually change. It further emphasises the point that all they want are a set of comics being churned out each months with a batch of characters in a carefully-set status quo, one that can never be tampered with too much because it might damage whatever the hell they're trying to do with the properties in other media.

Compare this with Batman Inc - which, let's face it, in no way exists in the DC Universe now - where at the end of issue #7 I was genuinely shitting myself for fear of what might be about to happen in #8.

I'm just pissed off pretty wholesale at DC at the moment. This stuff, the Orson Scott Card bollocks (hey! Let's put out a Superman book that might actually look and feel like a Superman book that Superman fans would want to read... and then get a raging homophobe activist to write the character!), and the fact that recently, I've been re-reading some of the stuff that was going on just before Flashpoint (specifically the later Supergirl run, when like many characters she was being passed around a handful of lesser-known writers to wind down the clock), and I'm actively annoyed at the way they let the post-Crisis continuity just wind down and quietly die, without giving any of the characters and/or their long-form storylines a proper ending of any kind. That really hacks me off the more I think about it. COIE was a bigger reset, but at least they actually bothered to end most of the stories before moving on.

/rant

No rant here, man. I pretty much agree with you on every point. I cancelled all of my Dc titles two months ago, due to the underwhemlingness of the titles. Seems that DC's just throwing more and more shite against the wall, trying to find something that will stick. But it's a bad sign when even supposed guaranteed money-makers like Batman seem to be falling short now.

Sadly, the return to PG's classic look will probably not save this book. The writing was so bad that it, along with numerous other New 52 titles, prompted me to cancel all of my DC books.

Dc has made me do something I never thought I would do. Cancel a book with Power Girl in it.

@X9 said:

Ahh, I'm so freaking tired of fans' whimper... GET OVER IT!

Batgirl #0 was a good issue and, for God's sake, it's NEW 52, we don't wanna read the same stories over and over again....

Barbara will have like 20 years to establish herself as Batgirl again and to develop her relationship with Dick and other Bat Family members. JUST WAIT AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE THING YOU READ. If you don't like it, then DON'T read it ¬¬

(sorry for the capital letters, but, really, they were necessary)

Until DC decides to re-revamp this New 52 in favor of a New New 52 in a couple of years. Then you'll get to feel the same revulsion many of us feel over this horrid reboot. And when that glorious day comes, you and all of the other Pro-52ers will come to us and say those three little words....

"You were right."

And we...will be vindicated.

@warpgirl said:

I can only wonder if this is going to be an open world with full interaction with other players, like a real MMO, or if you have to sit in a lobby until a team forms. If it's the latter, then how is this any different from the online play of Ultimate Alliance? For that matter, even the evironment looks a LOT like Ultimate Alliance. And I really really just cringe at the thought of an entire team of ... *snikt* Bub... *snikt* Bub. Bub, *snikt*

They should just call it City of Wolverines

I thought that Paramount had pulled the plug on this? Christ, this is possibly worse than the DC relaunch.

Or City of Heroes being cancelled. http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/news_archive/thank_you.php

@DarthShap said:

The worst thing about this is that we have already read that story. It is called Action Comics #600, RIGHT AFTER THEIR FIRST REBOOT in 1988.

And guess what? They realised they had nothing in common pretty fast and decided not to do that again.

Like so many things in this reboot, it has already been done and it was better the first time around.

My point exactly, Darth. Thank you.

People argue to me that this is supposed to be a "fresh new start" for DC. If that's so, then why're they recycling old story ideas that were done 20+ years ago? And only one year into their much-touted relaunch? To me that says laziness and a general lack of imagination in the so-called talented writers at DC. And yet another example of many of these has-beens currently working there trying to reclaim some of their past glory.