jmc247

You are so scared to death of the notion of a writer messing with Magneto's backstory that you sent off a long letter to Marvel. You are also scared to death of Carey a great writer messing with Magneto's backstory. That is what you really care about, Magneto's backstory. You fear writers will screw with it. But, I am willing to take the chance on Goyer and Carey and if they dissapoint then fine, I will be pissed. But, if they do a good job then it will be more then worth it.
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Pania says:

And you have serious issues with this topic.

Look into the mirror, every time Lorna is talked about you bring up that you don't want her to be his daughter. And, I know you well enough to know why you feel that way. Because, you think it damages Magneto's backstory, which is what you really care about and I care about as well.

But, it only damages his backstory if the blanks are filled in by a bad writer.

Pania says:

"Magneto called her "his child" while manipulting her is not even implication. Or are you going to try to link everyone Magneto has called "my child" to his genetic line? Because that would include many of the Acolytes. P.S. You forgot to put in that scan a short while later when he hits her with a chair and calls her a fat cow. "

And you forgot to include that he shot Pietro in the kneecaps.

Pania says:

<blockquote.And you have serious issues with this topic. "

Coming from the one person on the internet who follows me onto different boards to debate the point. And, every time Lorna is brought up brings up that you don't want her to be his daughter.

Look into the bloody mirror.

Pania says:

"OH...now your bringing in the Ultimate universe to try and back up your point? Your getting desperate. It has not been established that Lorna is his daughter in the Ultimate universe. "

I just included that for AU where it was hinted at, but not stated it either way and that was true in both the Ultimate Universe and in the alternate universe in Uncanny 378.

You can't argue that repeatly calling Lorna my child in the Ultimate universe wasn't the writer doing a certain level of hinting.

Hahahahaha, I knew it was you Kat, inspite of your username. Your attacks on Goyer gave it away.

You hate the idea of her as his daughter I feel the opposite. Live with it.

I said that in AoA Magneto never gave over his DNA to Dark Beast so they would have had to have gotten it from a government bank, which Magneto would have had great reason to make sure didn't have his real blood sample to avoid the government or someone else trying to clone him. The other possibility is they found a hair or other bodily fluid they think is Magneto's, but that certainly is not reliable either.

My personal opinion is alternate universes matter alot. What are the chances Magneto would have a child named Lorna Dane with the same powers as 616 Lorna and the same personality as Lorna? The chances are beyond infinitesimal. And, times that by Lorna being his daughter in at least 5 different realities and it is pretty clear what the answer is.

I didn't even include the realities where it was strongly implied, but not stated for certain she was his daughter

*Compare all that to: "Magneto lied in order to regain her loyalty so she would cover for him (as she did when he was powerless before)

She was already helping him maintain order after his spine was cut, that is why she was in his throne room in the first place. And, your idea that Magneto could have known ahead of time that Lorna was going to take some of his DNA is a joke.

That is not to say the story is possibly retconnable anything in Marvel can be retconned, but if it was true Magneto lied to her why the hell would he have not told Xavier in the months they said together. He didn't need nor want her loyality anymore, so why? The answer is you are wrong. Marvel isn't going to make Magneto look like a super a$$hole with his big film coming up. And, they aren't going to make themselves look like fools for promoting her as the daughter of Magneto only to say several years later we were just kidding.

someone asked this to Chuck Austen, here was his reply.

Justin asks: One thing I was wondering is how the decision to make Polaris Magneto’s daughter again came down? Was that Morrison or your idea? Because, I know the storyline had its roots in Morrison’s New X-Men 132 back in September 2002.

Austen: I believe it was Grant’s. But the roots went much further back, though others can tell you specifically when and where, what issues, what the circumstances were, which page, what panels, what characters, the costumes they were wearing, who lettered it, and possibly even the type of printer it was printed on.

There was a storyline done years ago where she was ‘revealed’ to be Magneto’s daughter, but then it was undone, or proven not to be true, or only happened in one of Scarlet Witch’s continuity-scrubbing bubbles, or something. Maybe in the Neal Adams Roy Thomas run. I researched it at the time, but I’ve since forgotten. I needed to memorize someone’s phone number, and that’s the only brain space I had available.

Apparently Grant made a decision to go back to it, but I’m not sure whose actual idea it was: his, Marvel’s, or God’s acting through them both as a conduit—I assume his, because he was Grant Morrison, and he had the power, the power of Hoodoo—all I can tell you is that the germ of the idea wasn’t mine.

I had intended to use Polaris in my run from the beginning, keep her much as she’d been when I’d read about her in X-Factor and other places, then eventually marry her off to Alex, happily ever after—at least until some other writer came along and made them related to Satan. It was a surprise to me when she appeared in Grant’s X-Men—crazy, muttering to herself, and wandering in the radioactive mud. We’d just had coffee the previous day, and she seemed fine. Just shows how you can miss the little signs.

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