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#1 Edited by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@pizzaman:

Where is your sense of adventure? Wanda and Lorna haven't seen each other in over a decade and have a lot to talk about.

#2 Edited by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

Continuing with All-New X-Factor, David was spotlighted further. He said he loves that there are fans who have chosen every character in the book as their favorite. Issue #14 in October is "Girls Night Out" with Scarlet Witch guest-starring to join her sister Polaris. After that, X-Factor will be "involved with a big X-crossover that I don't know if I can talk about yet, so I won't!"

http://www.newsarama.com/21348-nycc-se-2014-marvel-next-big-thing-panel-live.html

Its been a good ten years since the Scarlet Witch and Polaris have been together. What is the worst that can happen? LOL.

This is going to be fun.

#3 Posted by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio
@adamtrmm said:

@jmc247 said:

I will say that Lorna and Magneto and Wanda and Magneto's relationships have been in flux of late, though before their most recent story lines things were more settled. Pietro and Magneto's relationship in contrast writers seemingly are much more on the same page about. Father disappointing in his son... son angry at his dad. That is what they know better then father-daughter relationships.

Male writers I suspect know sister-sister relationships the least, hence why Wanda and Lorna have never really talked in depth in the 616 on panel. Its not like they haven't had many of opportunities going back to the Genosha era. This pretty much defines the Wanda/Lorna relationship.

Noticed that too, totally with you on that.

Would be nice if Magnus will interact with his children more in his series and now in ANXF. There can be a nice opportunity actually.

PAD likes to do his own thing and while its possible Magneto might come over in time I tend to think the Magneto ongoing is the more likely place for those two family reunions as its not a team book, its a solo story centered around Magneto and his life.

As Wanda and Lorna I think that one on paper has a large amount of potential, but I think that one is going to wait for Marvel when they are going hog wild trying to find stories for Wanda (mid next year and onward) because of the film franchise to do the story. Its a potential storyline that might be staring them in the face, but writers as I said tend to prefer to write what they know.

#4 Posted by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis:

@lykopis said:

What I would do to be that cat Gambit is holding...

I know some people have been critical of the art on this book so far but I really like it. Havok's involvement here is interesting although I'm not too keen on anyone being able to sneak anything on Polaris while she sleeps.

Oh -- and I had no idea Peter David was recovering from a stroke. That's awful. I hope he makes a full recovery and wish the best for him and his family.

A nanobot made of entirely nonmetallic material might be able to fly its way into her eye, but it would have to get its signals out someway and unless its using magic which is possible in the Marvelverse it would have to be using EM signals, which would make it quite dangerous when it comes to Lorna detecting it.

As for Pietro it looks like he is set to try to spy/manipulate her on the orders of the "Uncanny Avengers".

#5 Posted by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't tell who was less happy with it though in the first picture I posted up top Lorna or Gambit? lol.

@mn_logan said:

It was mad creepy.

#6 Edited by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

Among the Magneto family... most of them at least have some level of interaction over the years and some relationship building/development if uneven and contradictory. The area that needs it the most going forward is you have Marvel's two highest profile sisters on the Magnus family... and they have barely interacted over the years. Not that they both haven't thought about each other and talked about each other, but in terms of actual interaction there has been almost nothing there.

Its Wanda and Lorna that most need the face to face among the group.

the Magnus family- Magneto, wanda, quicksilver, polaris, luna, wiccan, & speed

#7 Posted by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@hawk2916 said:

I didnt care for it. That may be partly because Ive always rooted for Rogue and Gambit. I always thought putting Magneto with Rogue was a way of further hurting his character in the eyes of some. Dont get me wrong Mags should have a love interest but just not robbing the cradle with a young Rogue

What is the right age for a Magneto love interest given that he is actually nearly 90 in the body of someone in his 30s given he was de-aged and re-aged to the prime of his life? Magneto could be Rogue's great grandfather in terms of age, but Wolverine could be her great great great grandfather and yet no one would have a problem about the age issue.

#8 Posted by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

Rogue and Magneto dated for not that long Marvel time and Rogue wasn't quite sure what to feel about him often or how to take take things. What was your view on the relationship?

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@cutter:

@cutter said:
@jmc247 said:

@devilsgrin81:

Was Polaris an Acolyte? Well, I will let you decide for yourselves, but I would say she was an Acolyte and at times the leader of the Acolytes when Magneto was badly injured.

She fought literately for weeks depowered along with Magneto and the rest of the Acolytes on Genosha against the human Magistrates a losing insurgent war with a gun as her weapon.

The whole discussion is pretty academic as she was shown a lot more devoted to the cause of building a separate mutant nation with Magneto then Wanda ever was during her Brotherhood years, but no one ever says she wasn't really a member of the Brotherhood because Magneto guilted her into it.

Lorna wanted to be on Genosha and wanted to improve the world for mutants.

And, what she ended up getting for her effort was to watch her people slaughtered in front of her and for her to be named queen of a dead nation.

#10 Posted by jmc247 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

I already said that it varies to the extent one needs general themes. Like Children's Crusade was wildly uncharacteristic of Wanda towards Magneto which might actually make sense if one considers she just committed a genocide and sees the world a bit differently, but the next time she talks about him he is an evil monster again.

Lorna's view on Magneto was relatively stable other then in Dark Seduction as a mentor figure and as the father she wished she had, but who doesn't know how to be a father to her in real life. On X-Factor of course she finds out that she killed her mommy and Magneto had her memories wiped of it... and now she hates him at least verbally speaking or she is trying to deflect from her own feelings of anger at herself... its hard to say at the moment we will have to wait and see what happens when next they interact.

I will say that Lorna and Magneto and Wanda and Magneto's relationships have been in flux of late, though before their most recent story lines things were more settled. Pietro and Magneto's relationship in contrast writers seemingly are much more on the same page about. Father disappointing in his son... son angry at his dad. That is what they know better then father-daughter relationships.

Male writers I suspect know sister-sister relationships the least, hence why Wanda and Lorna have never really talked in depth in the 616 on panel. Its not like they haven't had many of opportunities going back to the Genosha era. This pretty much defines the Wanda/Lorna relationship.

@adamtrmm said:

Some really nice points are raised in this thread actually, I am with most of you guys here. Why do writers always think that the only comics family relations are always about to become so f*cked up? Is this the only drama they could have with these endless feuds? But then it doesn't stop with them, it somehow affects the whole universe lol Is this how comics drama should be always written through unhealthy family contentions?

@hopesummersforthefuture:

I disliked that "chaos magic" is Phoenix kryptonite thing. Not that she shut down the X-gene she was also able to make Phoenix stop from reigniting it again? What else? This "chaos magic" thing as ultimate plot device for a lazy explanation for anything illogical is making sick.

@danhimself said:

They might become Phoenix, and not go crazy

and later, found a religion in the far future

to save the life of her little brother,

When Marvel was pushing Hope so damn hard I felt like the whole Mother Askani plot will be finally retconed to be part of "so important Hope" thing, but now I think we can be calm lol

@jmc247 said:

Pietro does want his approval, but also hates him in that deep down he knows he will never get it and Magneto can't stand him because he looks at Pietro and sees only the worst aspects of himself in him. The rashness, arrogance and impulsive, but without the power or the intellect that Magneto has. Lorna is the opposite in that he sees the good aspects of himself in her; the intelligence and power without the negatives he sees in Pietro. With Wanda she basically has taken Anya/Magda position as the person he believes he let down and destroyed because of it.When it comes to Wanda's relationship with him she is fairly schizophrenic on the issue, mainly electing to see her father as a monster who ruined her life, but at times like Children's Crusade realizing that no he actually didn't do that.When it comes to Lorna's view on Magneto well that is fairly bipolar. Its torn between writers who want to view her as a white hat who hates her bad dad and writers who have her view him as the dad she wishes she had, but reality does not match up with her wishes for him.To put it in Avatar terms Pietro is somewhat like Zuko and Lorna is somewhat like Azula in so far as their view of their father and his view of them, but yes some writers have wildly different takes on their relationships.

Nice synopsis (no sarcasm) of what Magnus tribe should have always been, too bad you rationalize something that is so irrational. Really. Magneto's background, from his childhood to the death of his daughter, from his wife's abandonment to his another bloody history with CIA, from meeting Xavier and finally becoming Magneto (the way Claremont streamlined it), for me is the most symbolic and powerful fictional background ever written, not just in comics, but in overall. Yet, his character evolution since Claremont was executed baldly, he has become just a shell of what he represent (what humanity can do to a man) not many writers could actually handle and make it progress, bear that bitter yet beautiful metaphor to remind us what we are doing here, because the last time I checked, we (humanity) are still that sh*tty species. Then, we have his children that for all the flaws of Magneto's personality and his overwhelming symbolism as a character, just couldn't live out of his shadow. At least, that's what writers make us believe in. The whole HOM was built on that, even when it had nothing to do with Magnus, he was still somehow found guilty. So just because that man had an awful life, he constantly get punished just because he had "THE X-villain" title? What a pathetic and lazy explanation for the event.

I am really sick of these constant complains "daddy this daddy that", demonizing him and blaming him for all the sh*t in their life. We cannot argue, Classic Magneto was nuts yet classic days are over and we want our stories to go on. I guess I blame his children characters that they are actually holding him back (literally) as a character. And the only reason they are interesting for me is actually because they ARE Magneto's children. I just want something new than "Daddy you f*cked us up, you are the reason of our all suffering!!!!!!" sh*t I'm tired of, because if it isn't happening right now, it will in the end. Again (x983).

Now, when you mentioned Children Crusade (one of the crappiest "events" I've ever read actually), I have that problem with Magneto being so polite with Wanda and the rest of the family act so odd in the end like nothing happened before and they all can now live a happy life. lolz