Touching Moment...Glad you're still in there Norrin

Instead of the normal awesome display of power, I was very happy to see that Norrin Radd is still inside the Silver Surfer, even if it had to be induced by the goddess of love Venus. Although I could sense his compassion was still there, he has grown very cold since Annihilation. And though I've enjoyed the super powerful, take no crap, Galactus is all that matters herald Silver Surfer, I really enjoyed this scene. 
 


They haven't really mentioned that Zenn La and Shalla Bal were mere illusions for virtually all of the Surfer's history. It's nice to know she isn't just an illusion to him or just a thing of the past. 
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Posted by Theworldbreaker
@jloneblackheart:
It would be funny to see an illusion of surfer whooping thanos's ass :).
Posted by Illyana Rasputin

Norrin Radd has NOT lost ALL of his humanity. That's encouraging.
Posted by Aspirus

Sersi is a sly one.
Posted by jloneblackheart
@Aspirus said:
" Sersi is a sly one. "
It was Venus' doing. Sersi was about to get her cocky butt handed to her :)
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Posted by Retro_Metro
@Theworldbreaker said:
" @jloneblackheart: It would be funny to see an illusion of surfer whooping thanos's ass :). "
Posted by jloneblackheart
@Theworldbreaker: @Retro_Metro: After what I saw Thanos do to the evil Mar-Vell in Thanos Imperative, I'm starting to think it would have to be an illusion.
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Posted by FadeToBlackBolt
@jloneblackheart said:
They haven't really mentioned that Zenn La and Shalla Bal were mere illusions for virtually all of the Surfer's history. It's nice to know she isn't just an illusion to him or just a thing of the past.  "
What do you mean by this? I'm not very knowledgeable on the Surfer, sorry.
Posted by jloneblackheart
@FadeToBlackBolt: Toward the end of Silver Surfer Vol. 3, it was revealed that everything on Zenn-La was an elaborate illusion created by Galactus for when the Surfer would finally return home after his service. The planet and all it's inhabitants were destroyed by a being from another dimension known as the Other in the year 1947. So pretty much, every adventure involving Zenn-La or anyone from Zenn-La was merely an illusion as it had been destroyed long before the Surfer even rebelled against Galactus and was trapped on Earth.  
 
Sure some of it doesn't really make sense, but that's how it all unfolded and they have never spoken of it since in any comic. 
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Edited by N7_Normandy

Venus is cunning

Edited by Morpheus_
This was a touching scene. It is also proof of where the Surfer's heart truly lies (if there was ever a question), even though I thought the initial scene in which he attacks Thor and Herc was off. Thor is his friend and they have teamed up on several occasions (they have fought a few times as well, but meh, is there any hero who hasn't fought a friend, multiple times, in comics?), and despite his more ruthless attitude, it felt out of character for him to react in that manner. Pak basically took Giffen's, or Abnett and Lanning's Surfer and multiplied the grumpiness by a factor of 100. So, yeah, I liked this scene, but the preceding one was not nearly as good. But I guess a short battle was required.
 
And finally, after taking a hit from a Skyfather level Hercules without real trouble, the ranting on how Odin one-shotted him 20 years ago will cease.

 
edit: Based on some previews from Chaos War: God Squad, and Van Lente's statements, I wouldn't be surprised if the Surfer and Venus were to come closer during the event.
Posted by jloneblackheart
@Morpheus_: I don't think it was out of character for him to attack Thor. He was pissed! For all he knew, Galactus was just going to consume the Earth because of their actions. He was just trying to clear the path so he could get Galactus out of there. 
 
Yeah, I was worried that they were going to take the cosmic characters down a peg, but they didn't. I really appreciated them saying they needed more power before summoning Big G and the Surfer. Being basically unharmed by Herc's new power was a nice touch too and referring to them all as 'godlings' seemed to clarify the difference in power levels to me. 
 
I wouldn't object to the Surfer having a thing for Venus, or even just her giving him a different perspective. Something to maybe get him back on his own.  I would love a story where he could get Shalla Bal back. Even I could come up with a good story for that. 
 
Galactus has recovered, he shouldn't need Surfer anymore. Also, just like my old blog. Where the @#^! is Stardust?
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Posted by Morpheus_
@jloneblackheart said:
" @Morpheus_: I don't think it was out of character for him to attack Thor. He was pissed! For all he knew, Galactus was just going to consume the Earth because of their actions. He was just trying to clear the path so he could get Galactus out of there. 
 
Yeah, I was worried that they were going to take the cosmic characters down a peg, but they didn't. I really appreciated them saying they needed more power before summoning Big G and the Surfer. Being basically unharmed by Herc's new power was a nice touch too and referring to them all as 'godlings' seemed to clarify the difference in power levels to me. 
 
I wouldn't object to the Surfer having a thing for Venus, or even just her giving him a different perspective. Something to maybe get him back on his own.  I would love a story where he could get Shalla Bal back. Even I could come up with a good story for that. 
 
Galactus has recovered, he shouldn't need Surfer anymore. Also, just like my old blog. Where the @#^! is Stardust? "
It's not so much out of character to attack him but rather be annoyed to the point his reason was heavily affected by his rage. Even when Beta Ray Bill blew up an entire planet and Galactus was near death because of it he wasn't so angry (the opposite in fact, which makes me think writers just choose between characterisations; that will result in SS becoming bipolar, inevitably :P).
 
I liked that, too. I look forward to his further appearances in that series. Based on the preview for # 3 neither him, nor Thor will fare well against Zeus, though.
 
LOL. True. The whole Other storyline perplexed things when it comes to Zenn-La a great deal, without reason, either. If the Skyrider is to finally get his own on-going again I hope there will be at least some mentioning of that. Surfer and Venus will be interesting, presuming I'm not just making it up.
 
I know. It's baffling. It's as if Marvel doesn't care about her anymore. 
 
Did you notice the solicitation about Thanos Imperative: Devastation?
Posted by jloneblackheart
@Morpheus_ said: 
It's not so much out of character to attack him but rather be annoyed to the point his reason was heavily affected by his rage. Even when Beta Ray Bill blew up an entire planet and Galactus was near death because of it he wasn't so angry (the opposite in fact, which makes me think writers just choose between characterisations; that will result in SS becoming bipolar, inevitably :P).
 
I liked that, too. I look forward to his further appearances in that series. Based on the preview for # 3 neither him, nor Thor will fare well against Zeus, though.
 
LOL. True. The whole Other storyline perplexed things when it comes to Zenn-La a great deal, without reason, either. If the Skyrider is to finally get his own on-going again I hope there will be at least some mentioning of that. Surfer and Venus will be interesting, presuming I'm not just making it up.
 
I know. It's baffling. It's as if Marvel doesn't care about her anymore. 
 
Did you notice the solicitation about Thanos Imperative: Devastation?
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I think the anger factor was the fact that Earth was involved.  
 
I saw the solicitation on accident (I usually try to stay away from them). It seems vague. Seems like they plan on killing some people off and that we are going to get something open-ended involving Thanos. The only Inhumans I like are Crystal and Gorgon, but I could care less if they all bite the big one. Shi'ar? Meh. I just don't want any of the GotG to die. I think the Surfer will be fine, as well as Nova. 
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Posted by Morpheus_
@jloneblackheart said:

" @Morpheus_ said: 

It's not so much out of character to attack him but rather be annoyed to the point his reason was heavily affected by his rage. Even when Beta Ray Bill blew up an entire planet and Galactus was near death because of it he wasn't so angry (the opposite in fact, which makes me think writers just choose between characterisations; that will result in SS becoming bipolar, inevitably :P).
 
I liked that, too. I look forward to his further appearances in that series. Based on the preview for # 3 neither him, nor Thor will fare well against Zeus, though.
 
LOL. True. The whole Other storyline perplexed things when it comes to Zenn-La a great deal, without reason, either. If the Skyrider is to finally get his own on-going again I hope there will be at least some mentioning of that. Surfer and Venus will be interesting, presuming I'm not just making it up.
 
I know. It's baffling. It's as if Marvel doesn't care about her anymore. 
 
Did you notice the solicitation about Thanos Imperative: Devastation?
"

I think the anger factor was the fact that Earth was involved.   I saw the solicitation on accident (I usually try to stay away from them). It seems vague. Seems like they plan on killing some people off and that we are going to get something open-ended involving Thanos. The only Inhumans I like are Crystal and Gorgon, but I could care less if they all bite the big one. Shi'ar? Meh. I just don't want any of the GotG to die. I think the Surfer will be fine, as well as Nova.  "
Not sure about Nova. I wouldn't exclude the possibility of him dying, even though he'd probably come back afterwards. Same with Star Lord. 
 
I know this is off topic, but I'm excited about it, and it may also be an answer to our prayers. Feel free to start a thread about it if you like.

 

 
 http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/articles/matg_silver
 

This weekend saw many announcements come from the House of Ideas, from a Bendis/Maleev Moon Knight rebirth to Ultimate Captain America by Jason Aaron and artist Ron Garney. Fans came out in roves to check up on their favorite characters and see what their favorite publishers had to offer.

The Distinguished Competition held its own panel of emerald colors which released a plethora of information for fans of the green beacon of light: new series announcements, new animated cartoons, new villains -- all good news.

Marvel’s own star of X-Men: Wolverine Origins and the future Deadpool soon-to-be-blockbuster will be featured in a movie of the aforementioned glow. Too which, I might add, Cosmic Book News released a first look at a certain alien Drill Sergeant from that particular movie!

While the now Disney-owned publishing company has insanely huge characters such as the Amazing Spider-Man, the Incredible Hulk, the Invincible Iron Man, Thor and Wolverine -- noticeably absent is any equivalent to a certain will-powered test fighter pilot.

That may all soon change with Greg Pak.

At Friday’s T&A Panel which saw VP Executive Editors Tom Brevoort and Axel Alonzo as hosts, Mr. Brevoort teased that “there might be something in the works with a particular creator I won't say who has a beard and works with Mark a lot," in regards to a question about the Silver Surfer.

“Mark” would be none other than Senior Editor Mark Paniccia who edits Incredible Hulk and Chaos War. The writer with the “beard,” no surprise to readers of both, would be Mr. Greg Pak.

The Sentinel of the Spaceways and the wielder of the power that is cosmic happens to star in the current Marvel cosmic event dubbed “bigger than the Infinity Gauntlet and more cosmic than Annihilation.” The harbinger of the world devourer is also no stranger to the quill of Greg Pak, appearing in the pages of Incredible Hulk during “Planet Hulk” and also “Son of Hulk” along side his Master.

No doubt Marvel’s most popular cosmic character, first appearing in the pages of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby’s cosmic Fantastic Four, the Silver Surfer could be up for a promotion of cosmic proportions. Not only starring alongside the mythological titans Thor and Hercules, the former Norrin Radd also currently defends the universe from the forces of the Cancerverse in the pages of Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning’s hugely successful Thanos Imperative. To add to these recent appearances, the Surfer has appeared in Beta Ray Bill: Godhunter and in Jonathan Hickman’s critically-acclaimed Fantastic Four.

The Silver Surfer’s notable manifestations do not end there. His second series saw him carry for 146 issues by the likes of greats such as Steve Engleheart, Jim Starlin, Ron Lim, George Perez, Ron Garney and even the legendary John Buscema. Future generations of fans may have been first exposed to the Kirby creation in the movie Fanatastic Four: Rise of The Silver Surfer.

At times it can be heard being sung from the hallowed hallways of Marvel that powerful characters are difficult to write -- and too powerful characters are too difficult to write. Writer Greg Pak has proved that notion to be a fallacy, as time and again, he has given us years worth of epic storytelling filled with all-poweful adventure!

Could the Silver Thunder heard on the horizon be in response to the Direct Competition's Green Machine? Only time will tell.

 
 


Posted by The_Martian

Aww...poor  Surfer :(

Posted by Morpheus_
@Nobody said:
" Aww...poor  Surfer :( "
Do you like Norrin, Nobody?
Posted by The_Martian
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Nobody said:
" Aww...poor  Surfer :( "
Do you like Norrin, Nobody? "
I do actually.
Posted by jloneblackheart
@Morpheus_: That is extremely interesting. I do have fears though. First, I always worried about a SS movie. I just don't think they would make it the way it should be made. Plus, Fox probably has the rights which will equal stinksville. 
 
Another thing is at least if he had a movie, we'd get a ton of comics featuring him, much like all the Thor and Cap comics we've been seeing. My worries there are the possibility of quickly made comics that change the character to suit a movie appearance more than his actual character, which is kind of dark, alien and tragic. They would never make a movie representing him in actuality, or would they?
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@Nobody said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Nobody said:

" Aww...poor  Surfer :( "
Do you like Norrin, Nobody? "
I do actually. "
Cool. Makes sense for a F4 fan.
 

@jloneblackheart

said:

" @Morpheus_: That is extremely interesting. I do have fears though. First, I always worried about a SS movie. I just don't think they would make it the way it should be made. Plus, Fox probably has the rights which will equal stinksville.  Another thing is at least if he had a movie, we'd get a ton of comics featuring him, much like all the Thor and Cap comics we've been seeing. My worries there are the possibility of quickly made comics that change the character to suit a movie appearance more than his actual character, which is kind of dark, alien and tragic. They would never make a movie representing him in actuality, or would they? "

To be honest I was hoping more for an on-going since that seems to be far more like Pak's area of expertise rather that scripting a film.
 
A Surfer film would be difficult to be done correctly. Not impossible, but difficult to stay true to what he stands for. And between a poorly made film, and no film, I'd take option number two.
Posted by The_Martian
@Morpheus_:  He's not in my list of favorite characters, but I like him.