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Can't wait to see if anything different happens this time around. Will jean regain control? Will wolverine go for lady M instead of Jean? Etc.

The previeews may look like rehashing old stories but until I see the issue itself I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.

Have loved the series so far and am doubting bendis will write everything exactly how it unfolded the first time around.

Also, lol loving the art! The glowy eyes and purple/blue flames on Jean are quite foreboding.

The nature of time travel is probably going to cause dissenting views so I have a hard time getting in on this debate.

That being said I just realized somethng for the first time... And this is perhaps off topic....

But considering iceman and beast are still alive and at the jean grey school (the adult versions), how come they aren't mad at their adult selves?

Put differently, if iceman and beast (young) both voted to "stay in the current time to fix/change things" (which they did) they obviously aren't happy with the way things turned out.

If they aren't happy with the way things turned out, how come they aren't grilling their "adult selves" for explanations or expressing their unhappiness?

Never thought about that.

Sorry that I can't come up with 5 things, OP, since time is limited at the moment...

But I'm very happy they found a way to "bring back" Jean without it being a clone or ressurection.

Folks may be right that it still isn't the "real Jean" or it isn't the same or they don't like this Jean, but if I'm giving credit where it's due. I'm thankful they found an alternative to a clone/resurrection.

Oh and kudos for making a positive thread vs. negative ;)

@squalleon Wow you're right about Xavier's death. Now that I think about it, I agree with you on that.

I mean I don't think Xavier was bad of course, but for the sake of the story "moving on", his death really was needed and has been for a while.

I'm not one to harp only on negative but since the thread is asking for it:

Character development as a whole seems to be subsiding in favor of (I don't know how to word this) convenience to make characters look cool/evil/whatever the writer wants.

Ill take Rogue for example since I'm not a particular hater or lover of Rogue (less bias). Originally she was interesting to me because she had so much love for people but couldn't experience love because of the negative side of her powers.

**Spoiler ahead**

Now in "xmen" which seems to be a crticial success, she is borrowing Northstar's powers to be powerful like she was in the older comics (i have no problem with this in itself) but there is no downside to this borrowing.

What about Northstar's reaction? Does he have negative memories that Rogue has to cope with since borrowing the powers? Or is his past so perfect that Rogue suffered no mental trauma from borrowing his powers? Since it took place off panel it's just convenient and doesn't have to be addresssed.

Rogue is just one example. All the heros have pros and cons in their powers and personalities. I just feel that lately a lot of these paradoxes, which drew me to be close to xmen characters in the first place, seem to be being replaced with a "just give a hero this capability/take away that capability for the sake of the story."

I give all credit for my view here to some poster on another message board. He posted similar thoughts which made me realize that I agreed with him.

This is why I like all new xmen. It's the only book I'm aware of that is putting a lot of time into these emotional and dramatic relationships.

A lot of people who don't like all new xmen say its moving slow and nothing is happening. To be honest they are correct... But I'm ok with that. I'm ok with a glacial speed story if that's what it takes to properly flesh our character personalities.

I see no need to rush to figure the end of the story out when It comes to comics- I mean hopefully comics will still be interesting as long as I live ... So the way I see it, a slower story only ensures that ill have content to read for plenty of years to come.

I don't know who MK is but it's refreshing to see some "new" faces in the movie besides returning cast (as much as I love them).

Also, I bet Jennifer Lawrence is thrilled that most (all?) or her costume is now a body suit rather than makeup. Should make filming much more pleasant for her.

Oh and with regards to bendis tweet back on topic (going to avoid all the jean love/hate debate going on), I'm hoping he just means she will become a powerful Telekinetic/Telepath with no regular Phoenix, and/or she will not be tied romantically to anyone for a while.

I definitely think teen jean could be here to stay with the other 05 being sent back to their time, or killed off, or some other way being written out of the book.

In other words, maybe (I hope) he's going to make a normal, formidable mutant that isn't the center of much complicated drama that jean fans can enjoy without her being involved in every single cosmic storyline.

I just wanna see her "normal". Funnily I'm asking she blend in more just so we can see the real her on a consistent basis. And no, by blend in I don't mean sacrifice any of her natural enduring qualities.. Just sacrifice the complicated retconn drama fodder.

Time will tell, though. For anyone not interested in her staying around, it may help to not give discussions like this the benefit of bumping it to the top. It only stimulates more interest in her (whether that interest is love or hate), which seems conterproductive to what you want.

All I can say is regardless of how we individually feel a lot of people seem to be interested in this new adaptation of her.

Personally I like her but of I disliked her as much as some do I'd just stop reading all new xmen.

Bendis posted this on his Twitter yesterday:

"And yes, for the many who have asked, in all new X-Men we are building something with Jean Grey that hopefully we have not seen before"

Thought this was interesting. He's already done a lot with her I'm this series that nobody has done before so it made me curious what he was getting at.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

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@time: I agree with you Jean isn't shallow or boring, but I can see why some people interpret it that way. It's just a reflection of different personalities.

Emma has a good side to her- unlike Jean she seems to only reveal her good side to people she's very close to though. I don't see either as better or worse; I just like Jean better. I can see why some people prefer Emma though.

I can tell you this: if jean was beating everyone she fought in all new xmen.0, and was getting her way in every scenario, the only people who would keep reading would be jean fans- then it'd probably get cancelled for not selling well. Her current characterization does kinda "hurt" in a way but its great for making her a more appealing character IMO