@jezer: You can feel proud of your sister when she does something noteworthy. You can feel proud of a soldier when they do something noteworthy. You can feel proud of an ancestor because of something they did. You feel proud of THEM. Not proud of YOURSELF.
Let me get this straight. When you hear someone say "I'm proud to be Irish" or "I'm proud to be Black", you do not interpret that as being proud of the Irish or the Blacks(and for that reason proud to be associated with them), of "THEM" as a community or group of people who have accomplished and overcome things as a whole... you interpret that as them being proud of themselves? Errr that error lies with you.
- 1.feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's own achievements, qualities, or possessions or those of someone with whom one is closely associated."a proud grandma of three boys"
synonyms: pleased, glad, happy, delighted, joyful, overjoyed, thrilled, satisfied,gratified, content"the proud parents beamed"
- 2.having or showing a high or excessively high opinion of oneself or one's importanc
Two definitions.... If you notice, the second one essentially signifies high self-esteem. So, a phrase like "proud to be black" signfiies confidence in oneself as part of that ethnic group...You do not need achievements to be confident in oneself. If you have an issue with people saying this, it is because you haven't bothered to look up the different ways the word "proud" is used.
I'm aware of both definitions. and you are changing the second definition to fit your point of view. . No where does it say "confidence". It says "High opinion of oneself or importance". That's not confidence. That is arrogance. You shouldn't feel that way unless you have done something to feel that way. In fact, you should never have a high importance of oneself or think you're highly important. You're not
"Having or showing a high or excessively high opinion of oneself or one's importance"
Are you aware of the nuanced differences between confidence and arrogance, which could easily be equated to the difference between "high" and "excessively high"?
Your improper quoting and incorrect reading aside, I know you aren't seriously attempting a weak semantic argument that "confidence" "high self-esteem" aren't synonymous with each other, as well as meaning "high opinion of oneself or one's importance". I'm not going to bother posting more definitions of things that everyone knows.
Your error is that you seem to have failed to acknowledge that your individualistic point of view, where one can only be proud of only one's own accomplishment, is cultural. There are cultures, such as certain asian ones, where people think of themselves as part of a unit or a community. Therefore, everything they do reflects onto their community and things that people in their community does reflect on to them(I have dishonored my family! lol). However, American culture, and particularly white American culture, stresses the idea of self-autonomy and individual success. Oppressed groups, such as Irish and Blacks, have unifying experiences that bring them away from the individualistic perspective/identity and are likewise seen that way. That is why when a black person does something, such as failing academically, they are seen as representing the race instead of themself. Why wouldn't accomplishments of blacks also reflect on the race as a whole? How do you find it confusing that pride in ones race is hard to understand, when the opposite of pride, inferiority, has been proven(psychology studies) to be present in the black (See: The Kenneth and Mamie Clark experiments) community based on their race, despite your logic that such feelings of self-worth should only be byproducts of individuals own accomplishments? That's not how the world works.