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@saoakden said:

I am beyond excited for this story arc. I've been loving Geoff Johns run on Justice League and Jason Fabok on art is just awesome.

I just have one question. There is this one character listing off names in the comic saying who's going to be there. One of the names dropped was Jason. No last named is given so my question is the Jason their talking about Firestorm?

Or Etrigan?

Got that from CBR!

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#3  Edited By Jeevanjacobjohn

This is where the Continuity Police starts screaming about Batman's appearance here and what just apparently happened to change him in his series.

This is just sad...I have been to a few sites now, talking about the Divergence issue. It's sad that most of you are ignoring DC's focus, post-convergence.

They have already made it clear that they are giving more importance to stories - stories over continuity. And each book will sort of have its own continuity (events in one book may or may not happen in another).

In that case, it is certainly possible that we will have Bat-New God in JL and Gordon Mech-Bats in Batman (and/or Batfamily titles). It's all up to the writers. I hope they stick with Bat-New God doe a while - perhaps explore more cosmic events (Well, JL traveling to other planets and helping them out - Bat-New God trying to use his powers etc). Perhaps eventually giving it up knowing that he can't interfere and help people (Metron has made that clear in JL#40) or maybe he just loses it.

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@zhurong said:

@justthatkid: I am only being logical and not overhyping over one dumb trident feat. I have a life that I am perfectly happy with but you need to take a chill pill buddy.

While I agree that it's just one feat; it shows how powerful the Trident really is.

Anyways, the Trident was also able to pierce Graves' armor (something even Superman couldn't do). So, it is pretty powerful.

How powerful can it be? We still don't have any idea (Operative asked AM about that and he mentioned that Trident will do whatever he wants it to do).

Anyways, that doesn't mean AM will win this fight.

I don't know enough about Rulk to make a judgement.

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Tony went head to head with the Hulk and Namor with his very first suit. The pure amount of weaponry and defensive capabilities is staggering. Just because Aquaman stabbed Darkseid, doesn't mean squat since it was in the middle of a tag team. Using that as a basis is way out of context. One on one vs DS, he doesn't get within 100 feet of him. Same goes for Iron Man. No speed advantage, strength advantage is negligible since Aquaman's levels (along with all of DC) are up to interpretation, while I.M's stats are well known (as are all of Marvel's characters) due to numerous official handbook stats and Nick Fury's records. How does Aquaman beat repulser beams, Particle beams, Plasma beams, pulse bolts, sonic generators, explosive shells, mini missiles, magnetic field generators, laser torches, Omi-beam, Tri-beam, Multi-beam, or Pentabeam?? I would love for someone to explain to me how Aquaman dodges all of that. Even couldn't dodge all that even in his element.

R.T. node: Thanks to the Repulsor Tech node implanted in his chest, which is linked to his brain, Tony is able to interact with different types of energies and forces a normal human cannot. The R.T. node acts like a new sense for its user.[90] The reactor's excessive generation of energy provides Stark with an increased amount of intelligence and gave him superhuman-level multitasking and learning capabilities. It enhances the metabolism, core strength, reaction time, reflexes and intelligence up to 25-30 IQ points.[91]Nick Fury's intel classified him as power level 9.[92]

Aquaman's telepathy??

Psychic Shield: Due to S.H.I.E.L.D treatments, Stark's mind is shielded from even the strongest telepaths alive.

speed advantage of Aquaman?

  • Flight: The armor can typically reach speeds in excess of Mach 10, however Iron Man has been recently depicted as able to reach orbital escape velocities (5 miles per second) and up to speeds that can outrun black holes. Use of the jet boots provide enough power to lift a load of about 500 tons.

There is no durability advantage for Aquaman.

Tony's suit can withstand zero kelvin to the suns temperature.

Many people said that Aquaman can get to the river.. and do what, swim? Iron man can fly from sub orbit and still target and hit aquaman, while ordering lunch with no danger whatsoever from Aquaman unless the beam from the trident can shoot into thousands of feet in the air and hit a moving target.

I'd love for the guy from "Deadliest Warriors" to use his program with these fights.

Note: I believe that this fight is too close to call.

It just means that his Trident can pierce Iron man's armor (Tony can't use his magnetic field to deflect it, since Trident is made of gold).

But, Tony's speed advantage should come into handy, to dodge the Trident.

As for all those beams you mentioned....we don't know if it can hurt Aquaman or not. So far, only one thing have been able to pierce Aquaman and managed to hurt him (make him bleed) - that is his own Trident.

Bullets no longer hurt him...so, perhaps he can take those missiles (of course, beams are another thing. How much heat can AM withstand?)

I do agree with you on telepathy...but remember DC characters are on a whole another level (in terms of power) compared to Marvel character (which isn't an indication of quality or anything..don't take it the wrong way). So, we don't know if his shield can help him against Aquaman's own telepathy. And besides, Aquaman's telepathy isn't like the normal telepathy other characters possess - like MM. So, there's that.

Speed. Yes, Ironman has speed advantage.

Durability...I don't know how you can say AM doesn't have any durability advantage. Liked I said, only one thing has managed to actually hurt him (so far), and that's his own Trident.

(As far as I remember. If you know of anything that has managed to get through his skin and hurt him, please let me know. Thanks!).

Dead King's scepter...the one that Dead King used to divide up Atlantis into 4 kingdoms (and sink it)...Aquaman was able to stop him and withstand the full force of the Scepter.

(The power of the scepter was also evident in another issue, where Manta collects it and tries to hit Aquaman with...instead hits the ground, which destroys the Island they were on).

Anyways, I count this fight as too close to call, as there are too many variables involved.

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@uugieboogie said:

@dennisstyle: How can Aquaman (who can't fly) outmaneuver Tony (who can fly) in the air? Iron Man clearly has the better combat speed & reactions . Aquaman gets blown out of the air. Tony attacks are a lot more than enough to knock Aquaman out the air. Let's not forget Aquaman can't comtrol himself in the air. & it matters because your on an alt & trolling

Actually he can. He can steer himself while he is in the air (he admitted that to Mera in one issue). Only thing he can't control is landing himself (which he admitted in the same issue).

Sure, Tony can just keep hitting AM with missiles...but whether or not they will do any damage to AM is another question. As for now, the only thing that has managed to 'hurt' AM is his own Trident (by hurt, I mean bleed). But, whether or not Tony can control the trident is another question. Only two people (other than AM) have shown to control it so far - Dead King and the Alchemist's son (Alchemist is the one who originally owned the gold that the trident and the other artifacts were made of).

AM is insanely durable..the fact that he was able to hold off Dead King's scepter shows that (the scepter by the way, divided Atlantis into different kingdoms..and sunk it into the ocean. AM holds it off when Dead king tries to destroy Atlantis underwater).

Bullets no longer pierce him (they retconned that).

Of course, that doesn't mean he would win. I still think it's too close to call.

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Btw, what can pierce AM as of now?

I know that bullets no longer hurt him (retconned).

Aquaman has been hurt by his own Trident - Both Dead king and Alchemist's son used it to stab him (although I am not sure if anyone can use it? Or can it only be used by Kings? Although Alchemist's son is an exception...then again, he controlled it differently - through Telekinesis).

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@owie said:

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@owie said:

Has anyone come up with an answer to "Iron Man flies up and shoots at Aquaman from the sky, and that's all there is to it" yet?

Like I mentioned before, Aquaman can swoop into the air...not the same as flying. But, it will definitely help to tag a flying Tony.

(As for how fast he can do it, not sure. Some issues have him moving really fast).

"Swoop"? I know he can jump, sort of Hulk-esque. But that doesn't give him any maneuverability while in the air, he would have no chance with that strategy against anyone who can fly. Or is this something besides jumping?

He does have limited maneuverability, as shown in Issues 26 and 15.

In Issue 15, he swoops from a building (at an angle), catches Mera, and then lands back down in the same building.

I am not entirely sure how he did that...it's sort of like flying.

Anyways, in Issue 26, he admitted that it's hard for him to land (but, he can steer himself while he is in the air)

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@owie said:

Has anyone come up with an answer to "Iron Man flies up and shoots at Aquaman from the sky, and that's all there is to it" yet?

Like I mentioned before, Aquaman can swoop into the air...not the same as flying. But, it will definitely help to tag a flying Tony.

(As for how fast he can do it, not sure. Some issues have him moving really fast).

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#10  Edited By Jeevanjacobjohn

@comicstooge:

Aquaman is not stronger or more durable than Namor. The high end strength feats Aquaman has been displaying for the past few years, Namor has matched or topped over the decades. Aquaman sucker-punched Superman? Namor's knocked out Hulk, gone toe-to-toe with Sentry, Wonderman, Hercules, etc. Bullets still make Arthur bleed, they do nothing to Namor.

They have retconned that; Bullets no longer do any damage to AM.

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